Wasabi_Johnson wrote:Illmatic12 wrote:Wasabi_Johnson wrote:Wall and Conley are the same tier of PG as far as being impact players. There is an obvious trade off between scoring and playmaking between the two. I think Wall is clearly a better athlete and passer than Fox but Fox currently has the potential to be a much better scorer than Wall has ever shown.
Nah. Wall is a tier ahead of Conley..
Conley puts up nice efficient stats but Wall is a different level of dynamic threat, because of how he can control the pace of a game with his explosiveness and passing. Fox isn't as strong as a finisher as Wall, and has a much worse jumpshot than Wall coming out of college (Wall shot 33% from three at UK, Fox shot 25%) so I'm not sure what you're seeing that makes you think he'll be a better scorer. Mike Conley Jr projection for Fox is actually really optimistic, since Conley improved his jumper a ton. I think Fox could be more like Eric Bledsoe maybe (also a very nice player + good defensive guard)
I don't see how Wall being a better passer and average scorer makes him a tier above of a much more efficient scoring PG and an average passer.
You realized John Wall shot 7% from the 3 point line his second year right? Wall was terrified to even take the three point shot. Fos is at least the more confident shooter.Fox has shown improvement shooting. He is a much better shooter from mid range than Wall at the same age.
We can agree to disagree, but 90% would have Wall ranking clearly ahead of Conley. The only reason it's close this past season is because Conley shot 40% from three on high volume, so you're basically reaching to expect that Fox will ever develop into that kind of shooter.
We'll revisit this during the season, but you'll soon come to understand that you are overestimating Fox's shooting ability quite a bit.