China cancels NBA stuff / Silver issues statement (pg1) /Ongoing discussion...

[clyde21]

dumbfounding to me how its Hong Kong, not the literal holocaust in Xinjiang, that is the center of debate about freedom and human rights.

disgusting across the board.

Western imperialism will always get more defense from the powers at be than the ethnic cleansing/genocide of Muslims. You know what it is Clyde you had free Palestine in your sig at one point iirc.

word, that's why I am having trouble taking any of this nonsense about 'freedom' and 'human rights' seriously when Uyghers are being slaughtered and put in internment camps as we speak and no one's batting an eye.

just pathetic.

[LofJ]

dumbfounding to me how its Hong Kong, not the literal holocaust in Xinjiang, that is the center of debate about freedom and human rights.

disgusting across the board.

No one cares about Muslims in the west. Hell, even counties like Turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia barely care.

[Jabroni Lames]

Singapore is very authoritarian in their own way and it works for them. I dunno if they are more authoritarian than the Chinese, but it can't be denied that their system has succeeded in raising the living standards of those who live there.

LOL, when youve been to as many shipyards in Singapore like I have you'll see that Singapore has a vast underclass, usually Indian or Bangladeshi, that almost borders on servitude.

Yep people don't like putting a microscope to their opinions. China is bad because we've always been taught they were. Them bringing Chinese people out of poverty is overlooked because of the human rights violations it took to gain that wealth. Meanwhile the defense of Singapore ignores their negative effects on the lives of their political underclass.

The US has an underclass problem that's 1000X worse than Singapore, relative to the resources at it's disposal. Singapore has literally zero natural resources. If the US system was as efficient as Singapore's there should be no such thing as an underclass.

[E-Balla]

Yes they still have consequences. Should also be noted no other country has freedom of speech even just in regards to not being thrown in jail

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FTFY

Not sure why you took out the "other the the US" part as its true but hey you do you

(unless grammar is just that big of an issue for you)

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If you think it's true you don't know the US like you think you do.

[E-Balla]

LOL, when youve been to as many shipyards in Singapore like I have you'll see that Singapore has a vast underclass, usually Indian or Bangladeshi, that almost borders on servitude.

Yep people don't like putting a microscope to their opinions. China is bad because we've always been taught they were. Them bringing Chinese people out of poverty is overlooked because of the human rights violations it took to gain that wealth. Meanwhile the defense of Singapore ignores their negative effects on the lives of their political underclass.

The US has an underclass problem that's 1000X worse than Singapore, relative to the resources at it's disposal. Singapore has literally zero natural resources. If the US system was as efficient as Singapore's there should be no such thing as an underclass.

You're preaching to the choir on this one!

[OkcSinceSGA]

"China has 300 million basketball players, nearly as many people as there are in the U.S., and roughly 500 million viewers watched the NBA last season on Tencent Sports, the streaming platform that recently extended its deal with the league for more than $1.5 billion over five years. That deal was a “massive indicator for the perceived value and enormous potential of the China market,” the Shanghai-based sports-research firm Mailman Group wrote in a recent report

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nba-vs-china-the-power-struggle-behind-the-standoff-11570557671


If the NBA can whether the storm now and stand by it's values... and take the initial few billion loss it's actually China who will feel this for decades to come. NBA needs to stick to it's guns. If the government bans the NBA as it seems it will... it will be 500 million viewers impacted, which is A LOT of money for China to lose themselves if people boycott.

[13th Man]

Most costly tweet ever lol.

[clyde21]

dumbfounding to me how its Hong Kong, not the literal holocaust in Xinjiang, that is the center of debate about freedom and human rights.

disgusting across the board.

No one cares about Muslims in the west. Hell, even counties like Turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia barely care.

Saudia Arabia is too busy committing genocide against other Muslims itself in Yemen with the help from the West to care about Muslims in China.

but let's talk more about FrEeDoM and HuMaN RiGhTs in Hong Kong.

[clyde21]

and I love how USA is preaching about freedom and democracy while the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world for non-violent crimes, is currently slaughtering and displacing millions across the Middle East, and backs 75% of the world's dictators as we speak

**** outta here with that freedom garbage.

[SkyHook]

I should have known better. I replied to a Titan Sports (China) tweet on Saturday and have spent the last few days in a perpetual China Bot Hell. They’ve stopped for now, right after I responded to one — who had been gloating about 9/11 — with this...

Personally I would just feel sorry for you. And encourage you to read more. Start here to understand more than what CCP censored media would have you know. This is what the protests are about. Be well.

https://t.co/Zpg7MdQGom?amp=1

Although the "one country, two systems" guarantees that Hong Kong's economic and political systems will not be changed for 50 years after the British handover in 1997, Mainland Affairs Council of the Republic of China has cited 218 cases between 1997 and 2007 in which they claim the PRC has breached the right of the people of Hong Kong to self-rule and severely intervened in the judicial system as well as freedom of speech.

I don’t know if actual, non-censored information is what did the trick, but I’m enjoying the peace and quiet for now.

[CROklahoma]

Did China start a war, and had its imperialistic (described as right for freedom and independance) visions on ...

Vietnam
Iraq
Afghanistan
Cuba
Venezuela
Iran
Syria
Libya

...

Yours sincerely,

MBS

P.S. All of you Texas citizens should have rights to start riots and burn everything to the ground in your desire for independance, freedom, and national sovergnity ...

Serious: Are you aware that USA is the biggest slaughterer of 20 and 21st century, directly and indirectly involved in over millions of casualties across the globe ? Half of your broadcasts are filled with insane army propaganda to join your corps, which is worse marketing than any dictatorship country has in any part of the world. How come you didn't bring the independance and freedom to pisspoor countries in Africa, but you concentrated on bringing it to Venezuela, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc, which are currently having 80% of world oil and gas reserves. That all is a pure coincidence right ...

I'm not here spitting on anything USA related, ofcourse plenty of stuff works great out there (which is why i'm following basketball located in USA, whole system in place is IMO great, starting from school programs to college, way to proffesional basketball that NBA is), but plenty of stuff you're spitting out is filled with nonshalant hipocracy ...

[seccom]

I should have known better. I replied to a Titan Sports (China) tweet on Saturday and have spent the last few days in a perpetual China Bot Hell. They’ve stopped for now, right after I responded to one — who had been gloating about 9/11 — with this...

Personally I would just feel sorry for you. And encourage you to read more. Start here to understand more than what CCP censored media would have you know. This is what the protests are about. Be well.

https://t.co/Zpg7MdQGom?amp=1

Although the "one country, two systems" guarantees that Hong Kong's economic and political systems will not be changed for 50 years after the British handover in 1997, Mainland Affairs Council of the Republic of China has cited 218 cases between 1997 and 2007 in which they claim the PRC has breached the right of the people of Hong Kong to self-rule and severely intervened in the judicial system as well as freedom of speech.

I don’t know if actual, non-censored information is what did the trick, but I’m enjoying the peace and quiet for now.

It probably work because the bots downloaded the pdf. If they did not know how to delete the file cleanly, it may come back to f* them in the as*. Any CCP cop could search their computer and found the pdf, they will have hard time explaining about the file.

[clyde21]

and I love how USA is preaching about freedom and democracy while the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world for non-violent crimes, is currently slaughtering and displacing millions across the Middle East, and backs 75% of the world's dictators as we speak

**** outta here with that freedom garbage.

oh, but it's all good, the NBA is definitely 'woke' because they FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT to allow men to walk into womens bathrooms in Charlotte, SO PROGRESSIVE.

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

I'm not defending it, I'm saying it's not my place to criticize it. The current citizens are citizens of China last I checked so I'm not defending them in a not so thinly veiled attempt of defending western imperialism. All types of freedom of speech issues pop up concerning the NBA but I don't remember nearly this much outrage when Turkey refused to show Portland's playoff games. Not hard to see why if you take 2 seconds to read between the lines.

Let's be clear about what happened.

Morey, a US citizen working for a US company, on his private Twitter account, a site which is banned in China, retweeted "Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong", then deleted it 5 minutes later.

The Chinese government shutdown a $4,000,000,000 Chinese subsidy of the US business Morey works for in response.

Like I said a not so thinly veiled attempt at defending western imperialism.

China is literally building man made islands to claim other countries' territorial waters and one since deleted tweet by a private citizen makes America the Imperialist, lol, okay.

The point was to point out the size of the "offense" and response. It's not like Morey tweeted that the People's Republic of China has killed tens of millions Chinese citizens since it's founding in 1949, even though he could because it's true.

[Duffman100]

and I love how USA is preaching about freedom and democracy while the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world for non-violent crimes, is currently slaughtering and displacing millions across the Middle East, and backs 75% of the world's dictators as we speak

**** outta here with that freedom garbage.

oh, but it's all good, the NBA is definitely 'woke' because they FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT to allow men to walk into womens bathrooms in Charlotte, SO PROGRESSIVE.

Yikes, someone got triggered.

[clyde21]

and I love how USA is preaching about freedom and democracy while the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world for non-violent crimes, is currently slaughtering and displacing millions across the Middle East, and backs 75% of the world's dictators as we speak

**** outta here with that freedom garbage.

oh, but it's all good, the NBA is definitely 'woke' because they FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT to allow men to walk into womens bathrooms in Charlotte, SO PROGRESSIVE.

Yikes, someone got triggered.

yea let's pretend we give a **** about human rights because we let grown ass men walk into womens bathrooms while ignoring REAL human rights abuses in Xinjiang, Rohingya, Yemen, Syria, Gaza, Somalia, Guatalama, Nicaragua, and Colombia.

keep pretending y'all give a **** about human rights tho.

[Showdown]

The NBA must have had a meeting and decided that having integrity in America is more important than appeasing China, hence this statement.

I don’t think any of the US fans want to see us bending over publicly and groveling to China. Silver recognized this after his “non-statement” and quickly reversed course.

Kudos to him, actually quite surprised he did it.

Beto, Cruz, Rubio, former Obama's advisor for foreign politics, bunch of Dem and Rep senators criticized Silver along with all Fox/Trump's/ Conservative famous guys on twitter, different hashtags that were supporting Morrey or bashing NBA , calling for boycot were trending, reddit was full of people bashing NBA/Silver so backlash at home become as big as backlash in China, it isn't surprise that he quicly reversed course.

[SkyHook]

and I love how USA is preaching about freedom and democracy while the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world for non-violent crimes, is currently slaughtering and displacing millions across the Middle East, and backs 75% of the world's dictators as we speak

**** outta here with that freedom garbage.

oh, but it's all good, the NBA is definitely 'woke' because they FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT to allow men to walk into womens bathrooms in Charlotte, SO PROGRESSIVE.

Yikes, someone got triggered.

Replying to your own post is the RealGM version of a self-five.

[Duffman100]

oh, but it's all good, the NBA is definitely 'woke' because they FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT to allow men to walk into womens bathrooms in Charlotte, SO PROGRESSIVE.

Yikes, someone got triggered.

yea let's pretend we give a **** about human rights because we let grown ass men walk into womens bathrooms while ignoring REAL human rights abuses in Xinjiang, Rohingya, Yemen, Syria, Gaza, Somalia, Guatalama, Nicaragua, and Colombia.

keep pretending y'all give a **** about human rights tho.

Yes. Let's not focus on fixing anything unless we fix the most important thing. That has no flaws at all.

[clyde21]

Yikes, someone got triggered.

yea let's pretend we give a **** about human rights because we let grown ass men walk into womens bathrooms while ignoring REAL human rights abuses in Xinjiang, Rohingya, Yemen, Syria, Gaza, Somalia, Guatalama, Nicaragua, and Colombia.

keep pretending y'all give a **** about human rights tho.

Yes. Let's not focus on fixing anything unless we fix the most important thing. That has no flaws at all.

you mean when the NBA flexed nuts on the Charlotte trans bathroom issue to pretend it's 'woke' while simultaneously trying to expand in places where they are committing literal genocide and ethnic cleansing?

yea forgive me if I don't take that seriously, pretending that letting grown men into womens bathroom is 'fixing human rights'. laughable across the board.