Jokic is not the best in the world, and has been heavily overrated (NOW YOU CAN CHANGE VOTES)

[Sweet Serenity]

Jokic about to be a 2x Champ, 2x FMVP, 3x MVP, yet Mr. Can’tgetoutofthesecondround is still better because of a couple of regular season games

You seriously can’t make this stuff up

[eyeatoma]

3rd the enjoying it.

Man is crying himself to sleep. You can genuinely see the desperate nature in some fans as their position gets harder and harder and harder to defend.

Nothing hard to defend. Jokic had a great game yes. He also did it against someone who has come up small in the playoffs, every single time he's showed up, even though he's won DPOY over and over again. All Jokic did was show up Gobert for the fraud that he is. Until he does it against Embiid in the playoffs, there will always be an asterisk to his dominance.

Also I'd say you've got your own problems to worry about. Least the Sixers have tons of capspace to revamp the roster. What moves do the Suns have?

Do you really wanna go there having in mind who do you root for?

Sorry I forgot that Gobert was injured every single time he played in the playoffs.

[Sgt Major]

Nothing hard to defend. Jokic had a great game yes. He also did it against someone who has come up small in the playoffs, every single time he's showed up, even though he's won DPOY over and over again. All Jokic did was show up Gobert for the fraud that he is. Until he does it against Embiid in the playoffs, there will always be an asterisk to his dominance.

Also I'd say you've got your own problems to worry about. Least the Sixers have tons of capspace to revamp the roster. What moves do the Suns have?

Do you really wanna go there having in mind who do you root for?

Sorry I forgot that Gobert was injured every single time he played in the playoffs.

Hunting stats, flopping like a fish and throwing yourself onto the ground takes a toll on the body.

[kveble]

Nothing hard to defend. Jokic had a great game yes. He also did it against someone who has come up small in the playoffs, every single time he's showed up, even though he's won DPOY over and over again. All Jokic did was show up Gobert for the fraud that he is. Until he does it against Embiid in the playoffs, there will always be an asterisk to his dominance.

Also I'd say you've got your own problems to worry about. Least the Sixers have tons of capspace to revamp the roster. What moves do the Suns have?

Do you really wanna go there having in mind who do you root for?

Sorry I forgot that Gobert was injured every single time he played in the playoffs.

Why is Embiid always so badly injured in the 4th quarters and in the most important games?

[mcmurphy]

I've been saying this since his first mvp. He's an incredible system player, but he lacks competitive fire and toughness to be an ATG player. His MVP as a 6 seed will be locked at as THE worst mvp season in history. It'll make the Rose and Nash wins seem unanimous.

Jokic is a guy that needs a superstar like Murray to make his game work. He can't take over without that second punch on the perimeter the way other ATGs could. Now that Murray has been exposed, so has Jokic. What's funny is that those really watching told you this year's ago when he only got the sixth seed without him.

To me he is the third best player in the NBA - Luka and Embiid are comfortably ahead of him. Last year he took advantage of an injured field, and a weakened conference in a transition year. He had Murray playing like a superstar and to his credit got it done. But his awards don't match his greatness and in a few years everyone will come around to what I'm saying here right now.

you're just lucky that And -1 doesn't exist

say that on 0-2

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UglyBugBall you are lucky that and-1 vote don't exist otherwise would be the historical worst post of realGM

[famicommander]

Nothing hard to defend. Jokic had a great game yes. He also did it against someone who has come up small in the playoffs, every single time he's showed up, even though he's won DPOY over and over again. All Jokic did was show up Gobert for the fraud that he is. Until he does it against Embiid in the playoffs, there will always be an asterisk to his dominance.

Also I'd say you've got your own problems to worry about. Least the Sixers have tons of capspace to revamp the roster. What moves do the Suns have?

Do you really wanna go there having in mind who do you root for?

Sorry I forgot that Gobert was injured every single time he played in the playoffs.

You know who else was injured in this postseason?

Jamal Murray, Luka Doncic, Jalen Brunson, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Karl-Anthony Towns, Reggie Jackson, and several other guys still playing. Did anybody feel bad for the Nuggets when they lost the first two games at home? Do the Knicks win some special prize for winning without 4 of their 5 highest paid players?

There are no special rules for Embiid. Every team is dealt the injury hand it's dealt and they have to live with it. It's not everybody else's problem that he's been hurt badly 11 years in a row (all 10 pro seasons and his only college season). Part of what makes a great player is the ability to, you know, actually play.

[eyeatoma]

Do you really wanna go there having in mind who do you root for?

Sorry I forgot that Gobert was injured every single time he played in the playoffs.

You know who else was injured in this postseason?

Jamal Murray, Luka Doncic, Jalen Brunson, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Karl-Anthony Towns, Reggie Jackson, and several other guys still playing. Did anybody feel bad for the Nuggets when they lost the first two games at home? Do the Knicks win some special prize for winning without 4 of their 5 highest paid players?

There are no special rules for Embiid. It's not everybody else's problem that he's been hurt badly 11 years in a row (all 10 pro seasons and his only college season). Part of what makes a great player is the ability to, you know, actually play.

Just makes him unlucky, and the rest very lucky. Can't really blame a player for his availability. You deal with the odds that are given to you, Embiid unfortunately hit the genetic and NBA talent lottery but was given a body made of toilet paper.

Also, do all the teams that didn't advance or are on the verge of burning out in the playoffs because of injury, Bucks, Heat, Sixers, Knicks are falling apart, Mavs are injured, Clippers, Pelicans, Cavs.

The whole point, is to be annointed the best you need to beat the best, not the luckiest of the bunch that didn't get hurt.

[Los_29]

I'm OP and I can't deny Jokic looking like the best player right now. If he wins the ring this year I'll admit hes an ATG and the best player in the world. Still a series and a half left though

He’s already the best player in the world. That is not up for debate.

[eyeatoma]

I'm OP and I can't deny Jokic looking like the best player right now. If he wins the ring this year I'll admit hes an ATG and the best player in the world. Still a series and a half left though

He’s already the best player in the world. That is not up for debate.

Actually is, Embiid was on his way to a unanimous MVP, before he got hurt.

[Sweet Serenity]

Moderators are probably going to lock my thread I just posted so I’ll post it here.

Gb sucking off Jokic like he's got the last dick in the world. Would be nice for Joel to shut their mouths once and for all.

This is the greatest hijinx in NBA history. The dude is amazing but Embiid is better and schools him everytime.

What's worse is that that dodo Gobert is a multi dpoy winner while Embiid has destroyed him every time he's played.

What a terrible outcome for us these last 10 years

All Jokic did was show up Gobert for the fraud that he is. Until he does it against Embiid in the playoffs, there will always be an asterisk to his dominance.

Last I checked Embiid has dominated Jokic and Gobert in the regular season for the last few years. Sure there's the playoffs, but he' always injured. Put up peak Embiid against, peak Jokic and Embiid will win every time.

The post season is a farce. Let's have all the players do an arduous 82 game slog, and then the healthiest team in the league wins. Lame. The game has changed, players are far more overworked than before, you have more than half the playoffs teams suffereing multiple injuries, allowing teams like the Celtics to sleepwalk through the playoffs when they clearly have issues. A healthy team against the Nuggets would be a different story.

The NBA has been ruined by gambling, massive TV deals, and the greedy Adam Silver not giving two **** about player wellbeing, and just relying on whatever this bs is. If you want to do it like that, better to have the NBA playoffs be like the NFL, where it's one and done each round.

[reload141]

Nothing hard to defend. Jokic had a great game yes. He also did it against someone who has come up small in the playoffs, every single time he's showed up, even though he's won DPOY over and over again. All Jokic did was show up Gobert for the fraud that he is. Until he does it against Embiid in the playoffs, there will always be an asterisk to his dominance.

Also I'd say you've got your own problems to worry about. Least the Sixers have tons of capspace to revamp the roster. What moves do the Suns have?

So, basically, you just said there's an asterisk to Jokic's greatness because Embiid can't make it out of the 2nd round.

Jokic has cooked Gobert, Towns, Reid, Adebayo, Davis, and Ayton these last two postseasons. Some of them twice now.

Embiid still checks under his bed for playoff Al Horford.

Last I checked Embiid has dominated Jokic and Gobert in the regular season for the last few years. Sure there's the playoffs, but he' always injured. Put up peak Embiid against, peak Jokic and Embiid will win every time.

Peak Embiid hasn’t been able to beat Old Man Al Horford, that says a lot.

[Los_29]

I'm OP and I can't deny Jokic looking like the best player right now. If he wins the ring this year I'll admit hes an ATG and the best player in the world. Still a series and a half left though

He’s already the best player in the world. That is not up for debate.

Actually is, Embiid was on his way to a unanimous MVP, before he got hurt.

Embiid will never win another MVP again after the robbery last year.

[eyeatoma]

So, basically, you just said there's an asterisk to Jokic's greatness because Embiid can't make it out of the 2nd round.

Jokic has cooked Gobert, Towns, Reid, Adebayo, Davis, and Ayton these last two postseasons. Some of them twice now.

Embiid still checks under his bed for playoff Al Horford.

Last I checked Embiid has dominated Jokic and Gobert in the regular season for the last few years. Sure there's the playoffs, but he' always injured. Put up peak Embiid against, peak Jokic and Embiid will win every time.

Peak Embiid hasn’t been able to beat Old Man Al Horford, that says a lot.

Was never peak EMbiid when he faced him. Healthy, and his final form, sorry.

[kveble]

I'm OP and I can't deny Jokic looking like the best player right now. If he wins the ring this year I'll admit hes an ATG and the best player in the world. Still a series and a half left though

He’s already the best player in the world. That is not up for debate.

Actually is, Embiid was on his way to a unanimous MVP, before he got hurt.

Embiid is the best player in the league against the bottom teams for 40 games / season.

[reload141]

Last I checked Embiid has dominated Jokic and Gobert in the regular season for the last few years. Sure there's the playoffs, but he' always injured. Put up peak Embiid against, peak Jokic and Embiid will win every time.

Peak Embiid hasn’t been able to beat Old Man Al Horford, that says a lot.

Was never peak EMbiid when he faced him. Healthy, and his final form, sorry.

No need to be sorry, Horford is just plain better than him.

Everyone knows it too, he’s Embiid’s daddy and even Embiid has come out and admitted it.

[stepic]

Epically funny thread. Put this in the classics.

[QPR]

Until he does it against Embiid in the playoffs, there will always be an asterisk to his dominance.

The big Serbian has broken you. But credit to you for coming back into this thread.

[styLesdavis]

I'm OP and I can't deny Jokic looking like the best player right now. If he wins the ring this year I'll admit hes an ATG and the best player in the world. Still a series and a half left though

He’s already the best player in the world. That is not up for debate.

Actually is, Embiid was on his way to a unanimous MVP, before he got hurt.

Fact is Embiid lead the MVP Straw Poll 1.0 with 848 Total points to Jokic with 630 points - 63 first place votes to 21 first place votes.

I have to admit that even i would have voted for Embiid at the time of his injury but to say that he was on his way to an "unanonymous MVP" is point blank wrong. Just because how last season turn out there would have always been a few voters who never would have placed Joel 1st just because of his playoffs 2023 - even if they should knew that this is not how an MVP voting works.

[LoneyROY]

Last I checked Embiid has dominated Jokic and Gobert in the regular season for the last few years. Sure there's the playoffs, but he' always injured. Put up peak Embiid against, peak Jokic and Embiid will win every time.

They don't hang banners for winning random regular season home games.

The post season is a farce. Let's have all the players do an arduous 82 game slog, and then the healthiest team in the league wins. Lame. The game has changed, players are far more overworked than before, you have more than half the playoffs teams suffereing multiple injuries, allowing teams like the Celtics to sleepwalk through the playoffs when they clearly have issues. A healthy team against the Nuggets would be a different story.

The NBA has been ruined by gambling, massive TV deals, and the greedy Adam Silver not giving two **** about player wellbeing, and just relying on whatever this bs is. If you want to do it like that, better to have the NBA playoffs be like the NFL, where it's one and done each round.

Joker has literally fried this psycho's brain.

The playoffs are a "farce" because his idol is one of the biggest superstar chokers the game have ever seen (he currently holds the record for biggest PPG drop-off from an MVP regular season to playoffs).

He just got out-impacted by Jalen Brunson and was booted in the first round for his latest crowning achievement.

Meanwhile, Jokic is one of the most dominant playoff players EVER. Who just pulled his team out of the depths down 0-2 heading on the road and proceeded to drop 40/13/7 against the DPOY and the team built to defend him with the series on the line.

I couldn't make this sh*t up if I tried.

[Los_29]

Peak Embiid hasn’t been able to beat Old Man Al Horford, that says a lot.

Was never peak EMbiid when he faced him. Healthy, and his final form, sorry.

No need to be sorry, Horford is just plain better than him.

Everyone knows it too, he’s Embiid’s daddy and even Embiid has come out and admitted it.

What about Marc Gasol? I always thought he was Embiid’s daddy.