James Harden traded to the Rockets

misterrunon · Post #661 » by **misterrunon** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:03 am

fallacy wrote:The funniest thing is that OKC got more for a backup and a top 25 NBA player than Orlando got for Dwight Howard who is a top 3/5 player.

Don't know if that shows how good OKC's front office is or how bad Orlando's front office is

hello, have you been paying attention? dwight wanted to go to only 1 of 2 teams; the lakers or the nets. he held them hostage. harden was willing to go to any team that would be willing to pay him probably.

Sedale Threatt · Post #662 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:04 am

misterrunon wrote:i find it strange how some people say how it's absolutely a bad deal for OKC. we don't know yet because draft picks are draft picks. they won't be as strong this year, but it could be a blessing in disguise for them a few years down the line.

Which is kind of the point. They have a legit, guaranteed contender NOW. A few years down the line is an eternity in the NBA.

Post #663 » by **Yuri Vaultin** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:04 am

fallacy wrote:The funniest thing is that OKC got more for a backup and a top 25 NBA player than Orlando got for Dwight Howard who is a top 3/5 player.

Don't know if that shows how good OKC's front office is or how bad Orlando's front office is

One player is signing an extension and didn't tell the world he wanted out, where as the other is going to explore free agency and is a douche.

Post #664 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:05 am

fallacy wrote:That's what I thought. Harden will get the full max, 5 years/80 million

According to Woj, he's getting 4/60

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Houston plans to give James Harden a four year, $60 million extension once deal is completed, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #665 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:06 am

Neutral 123 wrote:This thread is so bizarre. All types of odd stuff being posted. Martin in not in their future. So they traded Harden for Lamb and mediocre draft picks. All this excitement over draft picks. They trade a 23 year old to get younger? A second youth movement? WTF.

Martin is not in their future but what is to stop OKC from flipping Martin and the draft picks for someone like Josh Smith? Doubt Utah would give up Al Jefferson but I could see them trading Paul Millsap. A team like the Wizards could give the Thunder a good big man like Nene Hilario. I could easily see them trading to Sacramento for someone like DeMarcus Cousins.

What OKC has is tradeable assets along with Kevin Martin. I bet he gets flipped for something of value, if he's not successful enough to stay on at a discount.

Guy986 · Post #666 » by **Guy986** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:06 am

BrooklynBulls wrote:
fallacy wrote:That's what I thought. Harden will get the full max, 5 years/80 million

According to Woj, he's getting 4/60

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Houston plans to give James Harden a four year, $60 million extension once deal is completed, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Good. GOod.

misterrunon · Post #667 » by **misterrunon** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:06 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:
misterrunon wrote:i find it strange how some people say how it's absolutely a bad deal for OKC. we don't know yet because draft picks are draft picks. they won't be as strong this year, but it could be a blessing in disguise for them a few years down the line.

Which is kind of the point. They have a legit, guaranteed contender NOW. A few years down the line is an eternity in the NBA.

maybe they're a defender NOW, but they have slid down a bit. they're most likely not going to be as good a team with what they have (kevin martin + undeveloped rookie).

Im Coming Home · Post #668 » by **Im Coming Home** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:06 am

fallacy wrote:The funniest thing is that OKC got more for a backup and a top 25 NBA player than Orlando got for Dwight Howard who is a top 3/5 player.

Don't know if that shows how good OKC's front office is or how bad Orlando's front office is

Its a combination of both. :lol:

Tirion · Post #669 » by **Tirion** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:07 am

fallacy wrote:The funniest thing is that OKC got more for a backup and a top 25 NBA player than Orlando got for Dwight Howard who is a top 3/5 player.

Don't know if that shows how good OKC's front office is or how bad Orlando's front office is

The funniest thing is...

OKC could've traded Harden for Howard.

fallacy · Post #670 » by **fallacy** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:07 am

BrooklynBulls wrote:
fallacy wrote:That's what I thought. Harden will get the full max, 5 years/80 million

According to Woj, he's getting 4/60

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Houston plans to give James Harden a four year, $60 million extension once deal is completed, league sources tell Y! Sports.

It makes sense. There is probably some rule that doesn't allow Harden to get the full max, or maybe he doesn't want it

Guy986 · Post #671 » by **Guy986** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:07 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Neutral 123 wrote:This thread is so bizarre. All types of odd stuff being posted. Martin in not in their future. So they traded Harden for Lamb and mediocre draft picks. All this excitement over draft picks. They trade a 23 year old to get younger? A second youth movement? WTF.

Martin is not in their future but what is to stop OKC from flipping Martin and the draft picks for someone like Josh Smith? Doubt Utah would give up Al Jefferson but I could see them trading Paul Millsap. A team like the Wizards could give the Thunder a good big man like Nene Hilario. I could easily see them trading to Sacramento for someone like DeMarcus Cousins.

What OKC has is tradeable assets along with Kevin Martin. I bet he gets flipped for something of value, if he's not successful enough to stay on at a discount.

You sir have a twisted value of Kevin Martin's trade value. If he could be had for the likes of Al Jefferson and Josh SMith he would've been gone a long time ago. Martin's been on the trading block since the vetoed Chris Paul deal.

Super Selby · Post #672 » by **Super Selby** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:07 am

Perry Jones is a garbage man, real talk, true story. Is today overrate 2nd rate prospects day. Lamb is the same guy who quit at UConn and looks like he's on drugs half the time he's awake. Meanwhile, that elite Perry Jones doesn't know how to rebound a basketball or shoot jumpers yet he's gonna take the place of a dude like Harden. Next thing you got people saying that Eric Maynor is a legitimate 6th man off the bench

fallacy · Post #673 » by **fallacy** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:08 am

Tirion wrote:
fallacy wrote:The funniest thing is that OKC got more for a backup and a top 25 NBA player than Orlando got for Dwight Howard who is a top 3/5 player.

Don't know if that shows how good OKC's front office is or how bad Orlando's front office is

The funniest thing is...

OKC could've traded Harden for Howard.

The deal was Westbrook + Ibaka + filler for a year rental of Howard. It was pure **** for the Thunder.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #674 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:08 am

Yuri Vaultin wrote:
fallacy wrote:The funniest thing is that OKC got more for a backup and a top 25 NBA player than Orlando got for Dwight Howard who is a top 3/5 player.

Don't know if that shows how good OKC's front office is or how bad Orlando's front office is

One player is signing an extension and didn't tell the world he wanted out, where as the other is going to explore free agency and is a douche.

Speaking of the douche …

What is to prevent OKC from letting Martin go after the season, amnestying Kendrick Perkins, and agreeing to pay the max for Dwight Howard?

If not him, there is also Andrew Bynum.

Woudn't this be possible?

smith2373 · Post #675 » by **smith2373** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:08 am

fallacy wrote:
BrooklynBulls wrote:
fallacy wrote:That's what I thought. Harden will get the full max, 5 years/80 million

According to Woj, he's getting 4/60

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Houston plans to give James Harden a four year, $60 million extension once deal is completed, league sources tell Y! Sports.

It makes sense. There is probably some rule that doesn't allow Harden to get the full max, or maybe he doesn't want it

I thought in order to get the full max you had to have played a certain amount of years or if not played the X amount of years, had at least 2 ASG or All-NBA selections, or won an MVP.

Mundo · Post #676 » by **Mundo** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:09 am

Is Perkins on the block now. Perkins + 2 picks would be an enticing offer.

Part-time Lover · Post #677 » by **Part-time Lover** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:10 am

Kupchak9 wrote:
C-izMe wrote:
BrooklynBulls wrote:Truly amazing that taking a 44% TS% shot from 18 feet more often than the other guy is now considered a strength, particularly for a guy that's playing off 2 guys with midrange games.

Hurrah! Kevin Martin can shoot those long 2's with the best of em!

Name one first option without a midrange game. Don't worry, I'll wait.

Rose had no midrange game by the time he was an All-Star

TwentyOne920 · Post #678 » by **TwentyOne920** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:10 am

I hate to say this but...

Thanks to Sam Presti for giving my favorite team a WCF berth.

mjba · Post #679 » by **mjba** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:11 am

great deal for the Lakers. gave up nothing and got a Western Conference championship in return!

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #680 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:11 am

Guy986 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Neutral 123 wrote:This thread is so bizarre. All types of odd stuff being posted. Martin in not in their future. So they traded Harden for Lamb and mediocre draft picks. All this excitement over draft picks. They trade a 23 year old to get younger? A second youth movement? WTF.

Martin is not in their future but what is to stop OKC from flipping Martin and the draft picks for someone like Josh Smith? Doubt Utah would give up Al Jefferson but I could see them trading Paul Millsap. A team like the Wizards could give the Thunder a good big man like Nene Hilario. I could easily see them trading to Sacramento for someone like DeMarcus Cousins.

What OKC has is tradeable assets along with Kevin Martin. I bet he gets flipped for something of value, if he's not successful enough to stay on at a discount.

You sir have a twisted value of Kevin Martin's trade value. If he could be had for the likes of Al Jefferson and Josh SMith he would've been gone a long time ago. Martin's been on the trading block since the vetoed Chris Paul deal.

So you mean to tell me that Martin and two 1st round picks would not appealing to a team that has Kanter and Favors ready to take over for Jefferson? U