Rookie Discussion Thread

[gaspar]

18 pts, 11 ast, 0 tov for Booker against the Warriors

[Slava]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/708757467790856192[/tweet]
Byron Scott everybody!

Mind you since the AS break (when Lou's been out) its not like Russell's averaging 36+ MPG, he's at only 32 MPG, playing his best basketball of the season, being the best player on the team, and Byron is contemplating this

I need someone to put Lou on a Somali pirate ship.

[Revived]

"Huertas kinda reminds of Nash"- Shaq

Nash should respond back and say that Okafor reminds him of Shaq.

[Veyron]

18 pts, 11 ast, 0 tov for Booker against the Warriors

With % ?

Tell me please

[JMac1]

18 pts, 11 ast, 0 tov for Booker against the Warriors

With % ?

Tell me please

7/19.......... OMG!!! Two were half court heaves and four were blocked so six of his misses weren't even real shot attempts, but you go ahead and keep hating that he isn't on your team

[NBA Fan 1234]

18 pts, 11 ast, 0 tov for Booker against the Warriors

With % ?

Tell me please

7/19.......... OMG!!! Two were half court heaves and four were blocked so six of his misses weren't even real shot attempts, but you go ahead and keep hating that he isn't on your team

Heaves can be excused, but blocked shots are not.

[JMac1]

With % ?

Tell me please

7/19.......... OMG!!! Two were half court heaves and four were blocked so six of his misses weren't even real shot attempts, but you go ahead and keep hating that he isn't on your team

Heaves can be excused, but blocked shots are not.

When you are a rookie they are; that is all Eddie Johnson keeps talking about, how he will LEARN to pump fake in the NBA, because you can't get your shots off just over anyone. He doesn't take those shots in the future. His shooting failure was not for lack of shooting skill, but understanding the game, that will change. So, point is, don't over analyze his 7-19....dude is a pure shooter!

[NBA Fan 1234]

7/19.......... OMG!!! Two were half court heaves and four were blocked so six of his misses weren't even real shot attempts, but you go ahead and keep hating that he isn't on your team

Heaves can be excused, but blocked shots are not.

When you are a rookie they are; that is all Eddie Johnson keeps talking about, how he will LEARN to pump fake in the NBA, because you can't get your shots off just over anyone. He doesn't take those shots in the future. His shooting failure was not for lack of shooting skill, but understanding the game, that will change. So, point is, don't over analyze his 7-19....dude is a pure shooter!

Yeah...they still count and always will.

[JMac1]

Heaves can be excused, but blocked shots are not.

When you are a rookie they are; that is all Eddie Johnson keeps talking about, how he will LEARN to pump fake in the NBA, because you can't get your shots off just over anyone. He doesn't take those shots in the future. His shooting failure was not for lack of shooting skill, but understanding the game, that will change. So, point is, don't over analyze his 7-19....dude is a pure shooter!

Yeah...they still count and always will.

Of course, but it isn't like he can't shoot, which would be a bigger concern. His stats will suffer and people will infer he isn't a good shooter vs a 19 year learning good NBA shot selection that is very correctable for students of the game. I still think every shot he takes is going in and when he misses, I am like "damn, he missed?!" Love that feeling and haven't had that since Nash left.

[NBA Fan 1234]

When you are a rookie they are; that is all Eddie Johnson keeps talking about, how he will LEARN to pump fake in the NBA, because you can't get your shots off just over anyone. He doesn't take those shots in the future. His shooting failure was not for lack of shooting skill, but understanding the game, that will change. So, point is, don't over analyze his 7-19....dude is a pure shooter!

Yeah...they still count and always will.

Of course, but it isn't like he can't shoot, which would be a bigger concern. His stats will suffer and people will infer he isn't a good shooter vs a 19 year learning good NBA shot selection that is very correctable for students of the game. I still think every shot he takes is going in and when he misses, I am like "damn, he missed?!" Love that feeling and haven't had that since Nash left.

Nobody will infer he is a bad shooter (not sure why it matters, either), they will assume he is not efficient - which is fair at this point in his career.

You're free to feel whatever you want, nobody is preventing that by asking for his efficiency.

[JMac1]

Yeah...they still count and always will.

Of course, but it isn't like he can't shoot, which would be a bigger concern. His stats will suffer and people will infer he isn't a good shooter vs a 19 year learning good NBA shot selection that is very correctable for students of the game. I still think every shot he takes is going in and when he misses, I am like "damn, he missed?!" Love that feeling and haven't had that since Nash left.

Nobody will infer he is a bad shooter (not sure why it matters, either), they will assume he is not efficient - which is fair at this point in his career.

You're free to feel whatever you want, nobody is preventing that by asking for his efficiency.

Just stating the reasons for "ineffeciency" last night, (the two previous games 25 for 50 were pretty effecient) which matters if you want to correct it. When discussing someones long term potential I think that should be a part of the discussion, is why it matters to me. Correctable vs uncorrectables

[Hindenburg]

Booker and Russell finishing the season very strong

I think by the end, top 5 rookies will be:

1. Towns
2. Booker
3. Russell
4. Porzingis
5. Jokic

[JMac1]

Yeah...they still count and always will.

Of course, but it isn't like he can't shoot, which would be a bigger concern. His stats will suffer and people will infer he isn't a good shooter vs a 19 year learning good NBA shot selection that is very correctable for students of the game. I still think every shot he takes is going in and when he misses, I am like "damn, he missed?!" Love that feeling and haven't had that since Nash left.

Nobody will infer he is a bad shooter (not sure why it matters, either), they will assume he is not efficient - which is fair at this point in his career.

You're free to feel whatever you want, nobody is preventing that by asking for his efficiency.

18 pts, 11 ast, 0 tov for Booker against the Warriors

With % ?

Tell me please

That's why it mattered. Responding to this.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Of course, but it isn't like he can't shoot, which would be a bigger concern. His stats will suffer and people will infer he isn't a good shooter vs a 19 year learning good NBA shot selection that is very correctable for students of the game. I still think every shot he takes is going in and when he misses, I am like "damn, he missed?!" Love that feeling and haven't had that since Nash left.

Nobody will infer he is a bad shooter (not sure why it matters, either), they will assume he is not efficient - which is fair at this point in his career.

You're free to feel whatever you want, nobody is preventing that by asking for his efficiency.

Just stating the reasons for "ineffeciency" last night, (the two previous games 25 for 50 were pretty effecient) which matters if you want to correct it. When discussing someones long term potential I think that should be a part of the discussion, is why it matters to me. Correctable vs uncorrectables

Okay, cool. Yes he will become more efficient as he gets older, one would hope at least, but it doesn't mean he will start not getting blocked. Btw, last night wasn't his only inefficient night shooting.

Also, as far as I can tell, all that was asked was how he shot last night, not what his long term potential was.

Edit - just saw the edit. Still doesn't matter.

[Michael Lucky]

The only times block shots shouldn't be a negative on a player is when they get it with no time left on the shot clock or when they get a no call.

[JMac1]

The only times block shots shouldn't be a negative on a player is when they get it with no time left on the shot clock or when they get a no call.

That never happened last night

[kbitboc]

What do you guys think of Julius Randle? He's technically still a rookie. Since the all star break he's putting up 15 pts and 11 rebs shooting 50%fg.

[Westbreezy]

Booker and Russell finishing the season very strong

I think by the end, top 5 rookies will be:

1. Towns
2. Booker
3. Russell
4. Porzingis
5. Jokic

On the season:
Booker: 12.3/2.2/2.2 with 0.5 SPG on 43.2% from the field and 36.9% from 3
Russell: 13.5/3.5/3.5 with 1.2 SPG on 42.7% from the field and 36.0% from 3

Since AS break:
Booker: 18.8/2.3/4.2 with 0.3 SPG on 39.7% from the field and 29.7% from 3
Russell: 19.8/3.0/4.6 with 1.0 SPG on 47.2% from the field and 45.6% from 3

Booker's been great, especially for a #13 pick but I'd definitely put Russell ahead of him personally

[Freddie Mitch]

Booker has been amazing, kid's definitely gonna be a star in this league. Magic fans probably bitter they took Hezonja instead. On another note, after all the hype Porzingis has gotten at the beginning of the season, seems like he's definitely hit the rookie wall. I think when it's all said and done, Towns is clearly the #1 rookie. After that, it's probably a toss up between Russell and Booker (Laker and Suns fans will probably get in a cat fight about this), followed by Porzingis and Okafor.

[Domejandro]

What do you guys think of Julius Randle? He's technically still a rookie. Since the all star break he's putting up 15 pts and 11 rebs shooting 50%fg.

I am probably one of Julius Randle's biggest fans, so I am thrilled to see him succeed.

That said, and I know I am going to come across as obnoxious, but he is figuratively still a rookie, not technically. Technically implies that under some rule, Julius Randle still qualifies as a rookie. This does not only go for the Julius Randle situation (the word "technically" is slung around far too often in this thread), but I have seen it in use regarding the Randle situation at least four times on this board, haha.