KD to GS - Pt III

[Nate505]

He's easily headed for top 10 all-time.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

That's good stuff.

The only thing Durant can control is his stats and the number of championships he might win. Those are tangible things. Legacy is completely subjective. And Durant going to a stacked team will hurt his legacy with most people, unless that team does something nearly superhuman. That's just how it is.

What's so funny? It's the truth.

And no, legacy isn't really subjective. It's a combination of individual stats + dominance + titles.

Durant going to the most stacked team in the league doesn't hurt his legacy in the slightest, but rather it helps it tremendously because it guarantees him several titles, which is one of the key variables to the formula for an all-time great legacy.

Trust me, people whining about Durant not playing on a team they wanted to see him on has zero impact on his legacy.

Legacy is completely subjective. There is no such thing as an objective measure of legacy. Perception is one of the most fluid things alive. See how Lebron was viewed before the Cavs won the title this year.

If going to a stacked team doesn't hurt Durant's legacy in the slightest, how come he's getting pretty heavily criticized for doing so?

[hongdayuan]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NickDePaula/status/750869001081802752[/tweet]

I hope that isn't true, because if so, what a douche ****.

He asked a dumb question. 9 years of inflation has to be taken into account. Lebrons first shoe was $110. All new signature athletes have their first show over $100 mark. Plus Nike probably has the final sale on price grades. Does it make sense if kd's shoes are $90 with front running tech while kyries are $120 for mediocre specs? Guy trying to tell a non-story and haters like u bite, smh

[Nate505]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NickDePaula/status/750869001081802752[/tweet]

I hope that isn't true, because if so, what a douche ****.

He asked a dumb question. 9 years of inflation has to be taken into account. Lebrons first shoe was $110. All new signature athletes have their first show over $100 mark. Plus Nike probably has the final sale on price grades. Does it make sense if kd's shoes are $90 with front running tech while kyries are $120 for mediocre specs? Guy trying to tell a non-story and haters like u bite, smh

It's not the price point I care about. It's the attitude that "golly gee, my shoe price is somehow correlated to my greatness as player."

I get that a player's greatness is directly related to the endorsement contract they can command which is also part of the overhead of the shoe price, but his greatness on the court would not be affected if the Nike execs stayed with the same price point. Only Nike profits would be affected.

The other thing that's irritating about the quote is he says "as humbly as I can say it" and then proceeds to say something totally arrogant. It's like the people who say "no offense but" and proceed to heap massive amounts of offense.

[ThePersianFreak]

Bird was a tremoundous rebounder for his size because he had the fundamental skills of using his body to box out and get in good positions for rebounds. He is a better rebounder than Lebron and KD. Also, let's not forget about his mental toughness. Both Lebron and KD don't even come close to matching Bird in this area.

"He doesn't come close to matching bird in this area"! give me a break, LeBron just did what nobody has ever done in the history of the NBA. Being 3-1 down against the greatest RS team of all time. 3 Historic games to win the title. There's no reason to ignore what great players have done to prove your point. LeBron and Bird are the best SFs of all time, let's leave it at that.

[hongdayuan]

I hope that isn't true, because if so, what a douche ****.

He asked a dumb question. 9 years of inflation has to be taken into account. Lebrons first shoe was $110. All new signature athletes have their first show over $100 mark. Plus Nike probably has the final sale on price grades. Does it make sense if kd's shoes are $90 with front running tech while kyries are $120 for mediocre specs? Guy trying to tell a non-story and haters like u bite, smh

It's not the price point I care about. It's the attitude that "golly gee, my shoe price is somehow correlated to my greatness as player."

I get that a player's greatness is directly related to the endorsement contract they can command which is also part of the overhead of the shoe price, but his greatness on the court would not be affected if the Nike execs stayed with the same price point. Only Nike profits would be affected.

Better player means larger fan base. Thus putting in more tech and spec and charge at a higher price to generate more profit. That's why lebrons with hex zoom are $200 while hyperdunks and hyperrevs have regular zoom and are $100. As I said, the price grade is made by Nike and it doesn't make sense of kd's shoes are cheaper AND better. Who buys hyperdunks when kd's are better and cheaper?

[Nate505]

He asked a dumb question. 9 years of inflation has to be taken into account. Lebrons first shoe was $110. All new signature athletes have their first show over $100 mark. Plus Nike probably has the final sale on price grades. Does it make sense if kd's shoes are $90 with front running tech while kyries are $120 for mediocre specs? Guy trying to tell a non-story and haters like u bite, smh

It's not the price point I care about. It's the attitude that "golly gee, my shoe price is somehow correlated to my greatness as player."

I get that a player's greatness is directly related to the endorsement contract they can command which is also part of the overhead of the shoe price, but his greatness on the court would not be affected if the Nike execs stayed with the same price point. Only Nike profits would be affected.

Better player means larger fan base. Thus putting in more tech and spec and charge at a higher price to generate more profit. That's why lebrons with hex zoom are $200 while hyperdunks and hyperrevs have regular zoom and are $100. As I said, the price grade is made by Nike and it doesn't make sense of kd's shoes are cheaper AND better. Who buys hyperdunks when kd's are better and cheaper?

If his arguments were economic and quality, fine. I get those arguments. I believe you did a good job of spelling them out to be honest. But his response was more "they cost more now because I'm all of a sudden that great."

[hongdayuan]

I hope that isn't true, because if so, what a douche ****.

He asked a dumb question. 9 years of inflation has to be taken into account. Lebrons first shoe was $110. All new signature athletes have their first show over $100 mark. Plus Nike probably has the final sale on price grades. Does it make sense if kd's shoes are $90 with front running tech while kyries are $120 for mediocre specs? Guy trying to tell a non-story and haters like u bite, smh

It's not the price point I care about. It's the attitude that "golly gee, my shoe price is somehow correlated to my greatness as player."

I get that a player's greatness is directly related to the endorsement contract they can command which is also part of the overhead of the shoe price, but his greatness on the court would not be affected if the Nike execs stayed with the same price point. Only Nike profits would be affected.

And sorry one more thing to add. These players respond to a question with an attitude due to their feeling toward the question itself. Rmb when kd called Cuban and idiot defending Russ, ppl were all loving it. Same thing here, guy asks a stupid question and kd gives him an idgf answer

[Nate505]

And sorry one more thing to add. These players respond to a question with an attitude due to their feeling toward the question itself. Rmb when kd called Cuban and idiot defending Russ, ppl were all loving it. Same thing here, guy asks a stupid question and kd gives him an idgf answer

Perhaps he doesn't give a damn. That's fine. To me it's a bad PR statement, but when one doesn't give a damn about PR I guess it doesn't matter in the end.

[hongdayuan]

And sorry one more thing to add. These players respond to a question with an attitude due to their feeling toward the question itself. Rmb when kd called Cuban and idiot defending Russ, ppl were all loving it. Same thing here, guy asks a stupid question and kd gives him an idgf answer

Perhaps he doesn't give a damn. That's fine. To me it's a bad PR statement, but when one doesn't give a damn about PR I guess it doesn't matter in the end.

I reli doubt this hurts his image. Sry being a big shoe guy working at footlocker as a side job, I can't help but jump into this. Dude reli asked a dumb question. Lebrons shoes went from $110 to $200 no one asking nothing. Kd is simply saying that he a good enough player that Nike is confident in investing the tech and charge $150 and still expecting good sale. Also rmb Nike matched his $300m contract with UA. They all show his value, based on his popularity he gain from his basketball play. I don't think ppl love just any 7 feet twig.

Ps. His new shoes are actually great to hoop in and compare to the current market well worth its $150 price tag

[so_bored]

Bird was a tremoundous rebounder for his size because he had the fundamental skills of using his body to box out and get in good positions for rebounds. He is a better rebounder than Lebron and KD. Also, let's not forget about his mental toughness. Both Lebron and KD don't even come close to matching Bird in this area.

"He doesn't come close to matching bird in this area"! give me a break, LeBron just did what nobody has ever done in the history of the NBA. Being 3-1 down against the greatest RS team of all time. 3 Historic games to win the title. There's no reason to ignore what great players have done to prove your point. LeBron and Bird are the best SFs of all time, let's leave it at that.

Nah, let's not. I think most will agree that Lebron is the best SF ever, and Bird is second. KD, I think will finish a distant third.

Yes, you're right that Lebron did overcome 1-3 hole this year, but you cant ignore the shortcomings and display of his mental weaknesses in his previous years. Also, things could have been a lot different had NBA not suspended Green in game 5. Without that, Lebron could have been eliminated in five games and it would look a lot different.

[RCM88x]

Bird was a tremoundous rebounder for his size because he had the fundamental skills of using his body to box out and get in good positions for rebounds. He is a better rebounder than Lebron and KD. Also, let's not forget about his mental toughness. Both Lebron and KD don't even come close to matching Bird in this area.

"He doesn't come close to matching bird in this area"! give me a break, LeBron just did what nobody has ever done in the history of the NBA. Being 3-1 down against the greatest RS team of all time. 3 Historic games to win the title. There's no reason to ignore what great players have done to prove your point. LeBron and Bird are the best SFs of all time, let's leave it at that.

Nah, let's not. I think most will agree that Lebron is the best SF ever, and Bird is second. KD, I think will finish a distant third.

Yes, you're right that Lebron did overcome 1-3 hole this year, but you cant ignore the shortcomings and display of his mental weaknesses in his previous years. Also, things could have been a lot different had NBA not suspended Green in game 5. Without that, Lebron could have been eliminated in five games and it would look a lot different.

Things would be a lot different if Bird was drafted to a scrub franchise like Lebron and instead literally went to the most perfect city and franchise he could.

[so_bored]

"He doesn't come close to matching bird in this area"! give me a break, LeBron just did what nobody has ever done in the history of the NBA. Being 3-1 down against the greatest RS team of all time. 3 Historic games to win the title. There's no reason to ignore what great players have done to prove your point. LeBron and Bird are the best SFs of all time, let's leave it at that.

Nah, let's not. I think most will agree that Lebron is the best SF ever, and Bird is second. KD, I think will finish a distant third.

Yes, you're right that Lebron did overcome 1-3 hole this year, but you cant ignore the shortcomings and display of his mental weaknesses in his previous years. Also, things could have been a lot different had NBA not suspended Green in game 5. Without that, Lebron could have been eliminated in five games and it would look a lot different.

Things would be a lot different if Bird was drafted to a scrub franchise like Lebron and instead literally went to the most perfect city and franchise he could.

Then he could have manufactured a superteam by joining Magic and the Lakers. He then would have won more title and more MVP and could have been a bigger legend. Lebron and KD did it, so why not Bird?

[John Murdoch]

He is still the best player on team USA by a mile lol guys chill , this is what journalist do to stir ish up

[RCM88x]

Nah, let's not. I think most will agree that Lebron is the best SF ever, and Bird is second. KD, I think will finish a distant third.

Yes, you're right that Lebron did overcome 1-3 hole this year, but you cant ignore the shortcomings and display of his mental weaknesses in his previous years. Also, things could have been a lot different had NBA not suspended Green in game 5. Without that, Lebron could have been eliminated in five games and it would look a lot different.

Things would be a lot different if Bird was drafted to a scrub franchise like Lebron and instead literally went to the most perfect city and franchise he could.

Then he could have manufactured a superteam by joining Magic and the Lakers. He then would have won more title and more MVP and could have been a bigger legend. Lebron and KD did it, so why not Bird?

Yea, 1-2 more titles with Kareem, Magic, and Worthy while he was at the end of his Career would really help his legacy?

Its not really the same comparison either. Lebron joining Miami would be more comparable to Bird joining the 76ers to play with Moses Malone and picking up someone like Calvin Natt or Alex English etc... If Lebron joined the Celtics in 2011 (and the Celtics core was 3-6 years younger), that would be comparable to Bird joining the Lakers and Durant joining GS.

Plus, people forget sometimes, Magic and Kareem combined had salaries higher than like 85% of NBA teams back then. Heck I'm pretty sure Magic alone had a higher salary than the bottom 2-3 teams in the league during the mid-late 80's.

It was just a different time then, 2 stars were the standard for great championship teams. Over the past decade its 3. Now, heck it might have just become 4.

I'm sure players back then would have combined forces much more often if the league allowed it, don't act like those guys are Saints because they stayed with the same team their whole career. They had no choice and it was the expectation. I'm sure they would make the same decisions today's stars do if they played today.

[6rings4LeClutch]

Kd looks super happy. Good he's able to block out all the noise.
Presser is the first we've seen of him since the signing.

[zshawn10]

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[zshawn10]

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[Hindenburg]

Durant being introduced live now

on NBA official website

[zshawn10]

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[zshawn10]

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