2017 Isaiah Thomas is better than any version of Iverson.

cycl0nus · Post #661 » by **cycl0nus** » Thu May 18, 2017 7:04 pm

Hell no!!! Get outta here kid

casketball · Post #662 » by **casketball** » Thu May 18, 2017 7:13 pm

Why does this even matter? Isaiah is a monster in his own right. We comparing them because they are both short? LOL

That's like when Chuck calls every white prospect coming into the league Dirk.

Black Jack · Post #663 » by **Black Jack** » Fri May 19, 2017 1:29 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
Black Jack wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
What guys did the Sixers let go and what precentage did they shoot from three point land when they were let go?

Larry Hughes was pretty good when they let him go. They also had Stackhouse. I just think AI was like Westbrook is now. Desire is to have the ball at all times and teammates are there to bail him out with quick J when he can't find an open shot after dribbling all over the place 1-on-4.

AI was entertaining, loved him at Gtown and in Phily. But it's not a great strategy to win. Isiah Thomas (the first one) played that way early in his career then learned to move the rock around. AI never did.

Larry Hughes was a bum as a Sixer and tried to be AI on and off the court and he was not capable of living that lifestyle and still performing so the Sixers got rid of him and his 21% 3 point shooting. Jerry Stackhouse was nothing but a future sixth man that couldn't recognize that AI was to be the franchise player so he clashed with AI and that couldn't work, and he was a turnover machine averaging 3.4 turnovers. If AI did so much refusing to let teammates score then how did Stackhouse find so much opportunity to average 3.4 turnovers?

I'm fine with you saying Larry Hughes was a bum, but Stackhouse? :roll:

SelfishPlayer · Post #664 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Fri May 19, 2017 1:38 am

Black Jack wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Black Jack wrote:
Larry Hughes was pretty good when they let him go. They also had Stackhouse. I just think AI was like Westbrook is now. Desire is to have the ball at all times and teammates are there to bail him out with quick J when he can't find an open shot after dribbling all over the place 1-on-4.

AI was entertaining, loved him at Gtown and in Phily. But it's not a great strategy to win. Isiah Thomas (the first one) played that way early in his career then learned to move the rock around. AI never did.

Larry Hughes was a bum as a Sixer and tried to be AI on and off the court and he was not capable of living that lifestyle and still performing so the Sixers got rid of him and his 21% 3 point shooting. Jerry Stackhouse was nothing but a future sixth man that couldn't recognize that AI was to be the franchise player so he clashed with AI and that couldn't work, and he was a turnover machine averaging 3.4 turnovers. If AI did so much refusing to let teammates score then how did Stackhouse find so much opportunity to average 3.4 turnovers?

I'm fine with you saying Larry Hughes was a bum, but Stackhouse?

I'm not fine with your misunderstanding of what was written.

G35 · Post #665 » by **G35** » Fri May 19, 2017 1:48 am

Haven't read any of thread but this is what I see:

Athleticism - advantage Iverson, I think AI is quicker, better handles, and can get to the rim far better than IT

Shooting - Thomas looks like the better shooter

Play making - I think they are both good at using their teammates, but I think at times IT uses his teammates as a bailout because he gets caught in the air or can't create anything

Scorer - Iverson is a better scorer

To me IT looks like a bigger Spud Webb lol, he is such a liability on defense (Iverson was too but IT seems to be a bigger one); his lack of size is so glaring and since his handles/quicks are not as good as AI's we are not going to see a recreation of the classic Iverson crossing up Jordan. IT has no chance vs Lebron, I would feel more confident in AI creating offense.......

Prokorov · Post #666 » by **Prokorov** » Fri May 19, 2017 1:51 am

To me iverson is better... PG not super important but you need to hide IT, iverson could defend...

i also think IT benefits from the era... iverson would feast on a small ball team with 4 floor spacers around him with shot blockers pulled out of the lane

tribulations · Post #667 » by **tribulations** » Sat May 20, 2017 1:43 am

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Iverson is on some nostalgic pedestal

justifiably so. don't get too caught up in advanced stats.

- not a sixer fan

Post #668 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat May 20, 2017 1:50 am

Love IT, but the dude is playing like hot trash atm.

Wonderllama · Post #669 » by **Wonderllama** » Sat May 20, 2017 1:52 am

Isaiah Thomas doesn't belong in the same SENTENCE as Allen Iverson.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #670 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Sat May 20, 2017 1:57 am

Wonderllama wrote:Isaiah Thomas doesn't belong in the same SENTENCE as Allen Iverson.

For one season he does.

Syd-TK3 · Post #671 » by **Syd-TK3** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:02 am

Close this.
Complete disrespect to Iverson

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r3demption · Post #672 » by **r3demption** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:02 am

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Anyone who disagrees can fight me with actual data and evidence. I'm addressing this because I see people constantly pissing on IT while Iverson is on some nostalgic pedestal and it annoys me. Both were mediocre defenders who got steals in the passing lanes but not much else (although Iverson was better defensively). Isaiah's efficiency on offense more than makes up for PG defense.

"But defense!" People need to realize PG defense was never a huge thing. Sure, big PG's like Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Dennis Johnson who also guarded 2s and 3s. But most other hall of fame PG's didn't play a lick of defense. Stop being hypocritical.

should get this thread locked :lol:

CeraVe · Post #673 » by **CeraVe** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:05 am

Celtics should draft Lonzo Ball, a John Wall/Steve Nash hybrid.

Like in Celtic lore, Isaiah Thomas is a leprechaun and fool's gold.

True Story · Post #674 » by **True Story** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:45 am

IT is better than AI.

joeyAdaMan · Post #675 » by **joeyAdaMan** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:47 am

True Story wrote:IT is better than AI.

sureeeee..... :lol:

joeyAdaMan · Post #676 » by **joeyAdaMan** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:48 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:Close this.
Complete disrespect to Iverson

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this

Plutonashfan · Post #677 » by **Plutonashfan** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:50 am

And dumbiest tread of the year goes to OP, MODS please enforce stricter rules on age requirements here. Just do everyone a favor cause crappy like this comes up from time to time, misinformed youngsters that have No idea what they are talking about....THANKS

bespectacled19 · Post #678 » by **bespectacled19** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:55 am

joeyAdaMan wrote:
True Story wrote:IT is better than AI.

sureeeee.....

Hect0r_Zer0n1 · Post #679 » by **Hect0r_Zer0n1** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:55 am

MODS?

joeyAdaMan · Post #680 » by **joeyAdaMan** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:56 am

Plutonashfan wrote:And dumbiest tread of the year goes to OP, MODS please enforce stricter rules on age requirements here. Just do everyone a favor cause crappy like this comes up from misinformed youngsters that have No idea what they are talking about. THANKS

to be fair...efficiency IS important...but, this is just out of hand....this Celtics team is still infinitely more talented and deeper than Any team AI ever played on

Is this true?