2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread (III)

Johnny Firpo · Post #661 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:13 am

WalterBenjamin wrote:Compared to who? Not close to elite players at driving to the rim.

Young? Didn't you make that comparison? Also, you do know he is a rookie, right? He is a better finisher than rookie LeBron and rookie Harden were (0-3 feet FG%).

WalterBenjamin · Post #662 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:11 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:
WalterBenjamin wrote:Compared to who? Not close to elite players at driving to the rim.

Young? Didn't you make that comparison? Also, you do know he is a rookie, right? He is a better finisher than rookie LeBron and rookie Harden were (0-3 feet FG%).

I wasn't talking about finishing. Its about getting the ball to places and finding angles. Doncic is not LeBron in that sense. Not eaven Young.

mcmurphy · Post #663 » by **mcmurphy** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:47 pm

WalterBenjamin wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
WalterBenjamin wrote:Compared to who? Not close to elite players at driving to the rim.

Young? Didn't you make that comparison? Also, you do know he is a rookie, right? He is a better finisher than rookie LeBron and rookie Harden were (0-3 feet FG%).

I wasn't talking about finishing. Its about getting the ball to places and finding angles. Doncic is not LeBron in that sense. Not eaven Young.

maybe I have a poor reading comprehension:

now on Wiretap
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252670/Dwyane-Wade-Luka-Doncics-Passing-Ability-Is-Lebron-James-like

"Quote me right where I say this – it’s LeBron James-like from the standpoint of how he’s able to rope that pass to shooters in corners, getting blitzed. There’s not many guys who can do that and put it right there. He does an amazing job of it," said Wade following the game.

Post #664 » by **KingDavid** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:24 pm

WalterBenjamin wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
WalterBenjamin wrote:Compared to who? Not close to elite players at driving to the rim.

Young? Didn't you make that comparison? Also, you do know he is a rookie, right? He is a better finisher than rookie LeBron and rookie Harden were (0-3 feet FG%).

I wasn't talking about finishing. Its about getting the ball to places and finding angles. Doncic is not LeBron in that sense. Not eaven Young.

I'll take Dwyane Wade's opinion over yours.

Bob8 · Post #665 » by **Bob8** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:55 pm

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2820581-ranking-the-star-potential-of-every-player-in-the-2019-rising-stars-challenge

juanc · Post #666 » by **juanc** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:22 pm

Luka collecting the money so he can pay back

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Johnny Firpo · Post #667 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:26 pm

Bob8 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2820581-ranking-the-star-potential-of-every-player-in-the-2019-rising-stars-challenge

Agree with 1-2, but that's about it, it's not a great list imo.

PhilBlackson · Post #668 » by **PhilBlackson** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:50 am

IllmaticHandler wrote:

I admit when I seen this earlier I kinda scoffed at it lol but after going back and watching some footage of Robinson this season...I no longer do.

This kid has legit potential, he'll be THE steal of the draft (understatement).

Dundalis · Post #669 » by **Dundalis** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:21 am

WalterBenjamin wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
WalterBenjamin wrote:Compared to who? Not close to elite players at driving to the rim.

Young? Didn't you make that comparison? Also, you do know he is a rookie, right? He is a better finisher than rookie LeBron and rookie Harden were (0-3 feet FG%).

I wasn't talking about finishing. Its about getting the ball to places and finding angles. Doncic is not LeBron in that sense. Not eaven Young.

I don't have an issue with what you are saying, but the difference isn't significant enough that it will be a problem for the Dallas offense. Especially when KP is back, which will make Doncic driving to wherever he wants off pick and rolls/pops significantly easier, because defenses won't be able to hone in on him as intently. Also I expect Doncic to improve his conditioning and in particular his power and strength significantly over the next 2 years. He doesn't have the quickness, but does have shiftiness as well as the frame, size and power to play bully ball and power his way into the paint. That's something he's going to get even better at as he gets a lot stronger with NBA strength training programs.

LukaV · Post #670 » by **LukaV** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:29 pm

Read on Twitter

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LukaV · Post #671 » by **LukaV** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:15 pm

Two interesting Luka-related informations:
1.) https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/Luka-Mania-Fuels-Mavs-Apparel-Sales-Boost-504884012.html

NBAStore.com reports Luka Doncic's No. 77 jersey is the second-highest selling behind only LeBron James.

2.) https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252704/Travis-Schlenk-Hawks-Would-Have-Drafted-Luka-Doncic-If-They-Kept-3rd-Pick

Per Realgm Wiretap/Woj:

Travis Schlenk said that the Atlanta Hawks were going to draft Luka Doncic had they kept the 3rd pick in last year's draft.

"Not a lot of people know this...if we stayed at 3, we would have taken Luka. We had worked with his agent, he did a physical with us that morning in New York...but then Dallas came in an hour or so before the draft. I told them all along that it would take another lottery pick for us to slide back, and that's when the conversations got started," Schlenk stated on Adrian Wojnarowski's podcast.

The deal to move back two spots and receive a top-5 protected pick from the Mavs this season was influenced by analytics.

"Our analytics staff was predicting Dallas to finish 8th this year," added Schlenk.

Oscar9992 · Post #672 » by **Oscar9992** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:18 pm

Damn... Luka carries huge marketing power with himself too... 2'nd best shirt seller after Bron & he is 19 y.o. rookie.

LKN · Post #673 » by **LKN** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:22 pm

LukaV wrote:Two interesting Luka-related informations:
1.) https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/Luka-Mania-Fuels-Mavs-Apparel-Sales-Boost-504884012.html

NBAStore.com reports Luka Doncic's No. 77 jersey is the second-highest selling behind only LeBron James.

2.) https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252704/Travis-Schlenk-Hawks-Would-Have-Drafted-Luka-Doncic-If-They-Kept-3rd-Pick

Per Realgm Wiretap/Woj:

Travis Schlenk said that the Atlanta Hawks were going to draft Luka Doncic had they kept the 3rd pick in last year's draft.

"Not a lot of people know this...if we stayed at 3, we would have taken Luka. We had worked with his agent, he did a physical with us that morning in New York...but then Dallas came in an hour or so before the draft. I told them all along that it would take another lottery pick for us to slide back, and that's when the conversations got started," Schlenk stated on Adrian Wojnarowski's podcast.

The deal to move back two spots and receive a top-5 protected pick from the Mavs this season was influenced by analytics.

"Our analytics staff was predicting Dallas to finish 8th this year," added Schlenk.

Wow, crazy (although not totally surprising) he's that popular already.

Not sure why ATL told us that, makes them look dumb.

awy · Post #674 » by **awy** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:05 am

yea but you helped destroy that dallas pick by giving them luka. 4head

IllmaticHandler · Post #675 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:43 am

Bagley with the Light 16 & 4 at Half time against GSW

IllmaticHandler · Post #676 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:57 am

That Right hand has been coming Alive Lately.

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RIPskaterdude · Post #677 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:00 am

Bagley is the 2nd best player to come out of this draft

Mephariel · Post #678 » by **Mephariel** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:16 am

Bagley is developing quick.

BoogieTime · Post #679 » by **BoogieTime** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:08 am

IllmaticHandler wrote:That Right hand has been coming Alive Lately.

Read on Twitter

Yes, that right hand has been developing

BoogieTime · Post #680 » by **BoogieTime** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:13 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:Bagley is the 2nd best player to come out of this draft

Too early. Trae is the truth as well (besides Doncic). Jackson is a good prospect

but as someone who was critical of the pick Marvin is alleviating my concerns that he can be real good.