OKC is a disgrace

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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#661 » by madskillz8 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:03 am

Dadouv47 wrote:A 3 years rebuild with only one very high draft pick in Chet at #2. Don't think we will be able to win it all this season but there's no reason we shouldnt be able to contend for several years if we stay healthy. 3 more seasons of SGA's contract, 6 seasons of JDub and Chet team control and still many picks to use. Credits to Presti and to our coaching staff. I wish we had such a good coach in the KD/WB days instead of Scott Brooks and Billy Donovan.

Can't take it for granted though...Atlanta young squad went to the ECF and is a mess right now, Grizzlies are in some trouble even if I think they will be good again next season.


Agreed. While they are in a very good position with long term control on SGA, JDub, and Chet, they also need to make some important decisions soon, starting with Giddey's contract. In addition, they will likely have very limited spots for rookies, thus have to trade these picks for future assets or roster improvements. I am pretty sure OKC will be in a good position for next 6-7 years just because of their assets but creating a contender takes more than that - including some luck, e.g., another Chet injury could easily ruin their chances as they don't have another big.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#662 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:09 am

OP in shambles. Presti has proven he's a top-5 NBA executive. This is the second contender he's built in the NBA's smallest market in just over 15 years. He'd have multiple titles to his name if the team's ownership wasn't cheap.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#663 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:51 am

Big J wrote:The stockpiling OKC is doing bothers me. They could easily cash a bunch of them in for a low end star and a couple of veteran role players and maybe make some noise in the playoffs. Instead they are taking the losers path and tanking for even more picks.

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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#664 » by lethalizer » Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:33 am

QingJames wrote:
DudetheObscure wrote:
QingJames wrote:Try to acquire actual NBA players instead of shipping every half decent player away for some distant future pick. Presti is selling snake oil to the fans while stocking the team with the cheapest G league players he possibly can.


That will be the next step. They still hope to acquire some very high level talent in the '22 and possibly '23 draft to add to a solid and young core of SGA, Dort and Giddey. In the meantime they need to continue to develop Bazley/Poku/Mann and see if they can be solid rotational players. I expect this year and next to be about drafting and development, but by 23/24 Presti will use his arsenal of draft picks to add solid veterans and start contending again. Sucks for fans for a couple of years (although this team is fun to watch) but that's reality in a small market.

You’ll be saying the same thing in 2027.



Of all the terrible takes in this thread, this one DEFINITELY takes the cake.

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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#665 » by Mavrelous » Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:51 am

I wanted to say textbook rebuild, but textbooks don't teach the level of mastery with which this rebuild was performed...
Fleece the Clippers and get a franchise cornerstone + boat load of picks.
Fleece the Rockets and get boat load of picks + a vet that gave another competitive season.
Sell cap space for picks to the Jazz and Celtics.
Buy a lottery pick with crappy 1sts and hit on it with another franchise cornerstone.
Sell low picks for future 1st (DEN) and swaps (DAL + LAC).
Hit on undrafted players and waiver wire and get legit rotation pieces (Dort, Isiah Joe, Kenrich Williams).
Basically with the cap space next Presti can fill the holes in the roster, and still have enough picks to build another contender.
All of that in just 3 years of lottery, only 2 of them they weren't really competitive.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#666 » by ChipotleWest » Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:54 am

They've done great and they're far from a disgrace, but does anyone think they're winning the championship? I'm not sure there's ever been a bigger pretender as a #1 seed.

But just the fact that they got the #1 seed is a testament to the GM and owner and staff.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#667 » by Long2_noD » Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:26 am

ChipotleWest wrote:They've done great and they're far from a disgrace, but does anyone think they're winning the championship? I'm not sure there's ever been a bigger pretender as a #1 seed.

But just the fact that they got the #1 seed is a testament to the GM and owner and staff.

2015 Hawks surely?
OKC has a legit superstar and maybe 2nd best HCA in the West, so they are in much better positioned for postseason.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#668 » by ChipotleWest » Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:35 am

Long2_noD wrote:
ChipotleWest wrote:They've done great and they're far from a disgrace, but does anyone think they're winning the championship? I'm not sure there's ever been a bigger pretender as a #1 seed.

But just the fact that they got the #1 seed is a testament to the GM and owner and staff.

2015 Hawks surely?
OKC has a legit superstar and maybe 2nd best HCA in the West, so they are in much better positioned for postseason.


I should have said in the West, the East was a joke then except for Lebron.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#669 » by OriAr » Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:48 am

ChipotleWest wrote:
Long2_noD wrote:
ChipotleWest wrote:They've done great and they're far from a disgrace, but does anyone think they're winning the championship? I'm not sure there's ever been a bigger pretender as a #1 seed.

But just the fact that they got the #1 seed is a testament to the GM and owner and staff.

2015 Hawks surely?
OKC has a legit superstar and maybe 2nd best HCA in the West, so they are in much better positioned for postseason.


I should have said in the West, the East was a joke then except for Lebron.

2018 Raptors will always be the biggest #1 seed pretender.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#670 » by The-Power » Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:55 am

The PG13-trade and hitting it out of the park for the 2022 draft have completely changed the course of the franchise for a decade to come (I'd think). Hiring Daigneault was another big hit that must be acknowledged. Impressive trajectory, and I'm rooting for the team to continue on that path.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#671 » by queridiculo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:06 am

:lol:
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#672 » by queridiculo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:19 am

ChipotleWest wrote:They've done great and they're far from a disgrace, but does anyone think they're winning the championship? I'm not sure there's ever been a bigger pretender as a #1 seed.

But just the fact that they got the #1 seed is a testament to the GM and owner and staff.


Imagine calling the second youngest team in the league a pretender after they just secured the 1st overall seed :lol:

This group is just scratching the surface and the Thunder aren't even done building yet.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#673 » by dirkules_41 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:38 am

queridiculo wrote:
ChipotleWest wrote:They've done great and they're far from a disgrace, but does anyone think they're winning the championship? I'm not sure there's ever been a bigger pretender as a #1 seed.

But just the fact that they got the #1 seed is a testament to the GM and owner and staff.


Imagine calling the second youngest team in the league a pretender after they just secured the 1st overall seed :lol:

This group is just scratching the surface and the Thunder aren't even done building yet.

He's clearly referring to this year and there's no way they're winning it this year. :lol:
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#674 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:21 am

The-Power wrote:The PG13-trade and hitting it out of the park for the 2022 draft have completely changed the course of the franchise for a decade to come (I'd think). Hiring Daigneault was another big hit that must be acknowledged. Impressive trajectory, and I'm rooting for the team to continue on that path.


The PG13 trade was the easiest part for Presti but the Summer of 2022 changed everything. Drafting Chet + Jalen Williams was huge. Still got another meh back up in Jayilin Williams and signed Isaiah Joe for super cheap. I would also add that we hired Chip Engelland in that summer and I tend to think that he must have an impact on OKC becoming a good 3 pt shooting team.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#675 » by Revived » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:12 pm

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Revived wrote:Thunder fans bumping this may want to wait to find out if Lakers (who went 3-1 against thunder btw) are their first rd matchup or not…because if it is and Thunder lose a #1 vs #8 matchup in rd 1 then all the chest thumping will have been for nothing. Sure Thunder will still have a bright future and yada yada yada but living in the present, round 1 may be a major problem.


if they lose they lose. the rebuild was successful, and all the casual trolls in this thread look foolish.

A #1 seed losing to a #8 seed would be seen as successful? The bar can’t possibly be set that low in OKC.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#676 » by Revived » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:30 pm

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Revived wrote:Thunder fans bumping this may want to wait to find out if Lakers (who went 3-1 against thunder btw) are their first rd matchup or not…because if it is and Thunder lose a #1 vs #8 matchup in rd 1 then all the chest thumping will have been for nothing. Sure Thunder will still have a bright future and yada yada yada but living in the present, round 1 may be a major problem.


You're really moving the goalposts here.

Your post from almost exactly a year ago:
Revived wrote:I don’t know if he’s wasting away or not but this isn’t the “gotcha” moment you think it is when your team is still not playoff team after what feels like 20 years of rebuilding and tanking. I don’t know when the Rockets will be good so no I don’t have anything to say about them.

You should’ve waited till OKC actually earns a playoff spot and then bumped this, then you would’ve got your due. Otherwise as you can see from all the other posters responding here as well, your bump just looks silly.


Keep in mind, the original claim you defended saying it's "not wrong" is that SGA is "wasting away" in OKC. That's not only wrong but spectacularly wrong. If OKC loses in the 1st round or 2nd round or whatever new bar you decide to give them after they clear the previous one, it won't make that take any less wrong.

You’re right that I was wrong in the sense OKC made playoffs sooner than expected.

However, I think it’s still too early to say SGA isn’t wasting away his time in OKC. I’ll give you an example, Kevin Durant was drafted and developed by Thunder, then he made playoffs, even a Finals and then demanded out because he felt he was wasting away his time in OKC. He even said on his burner that had he stayed, nothing was going to change in terms of how far they can go, didn’t he? There are many people that think if KD didn’t waste his early years in OKC, he would’ve already had won titles even before going to GSW.

Thunder getting #1 seed, and then potentially losing early in the playoffs this season doesn’t change the notion that SGA isn’t wasting his time in OKC. Hell it wouldn’t even matter if he went to the conference finals, the point would remain the same.

Hypothetically if SGA leaves Thunder just like KD did, it wouldn’t even be a matter of discussion that SGA wasted his time in OKC. It’s the same as people who say Damian Lillard wasted his time in Portland.

I’m a Suns fan and yes, you can say the same exact thing about Devin Booker. If someone told me, “Booker wasted away his career in Phoenix” I wouldn’t be able to argue against it. Same thing if they said it even about Steve Nash and the Suns. The ultimate goal is to win a title and that’s something my Suns and your Thunder have failed to do.

I want you to be able to bump this and all you Thunder folks to be able to celebrate after winning an actual title. I would welcome that, I enjoy watching small market teams winning a ring if it’s not against the Suns (like mil). Trust me, im waiting to do the same for the Suns. But until then, I don’t get the chest thumping.

Of course you should be happy about the Thunder season this year and I get that, but bumping years old threads (which I guess is now allowed on the GB even though it wasn’t before?) to try and say “What now, hahaha look you were wrong” doesn’t work quite the same when they still haven’t reached the actual ultimate goal. I imagine yall are stoked on the Thunder forums and you definitely should be but I don’t get this.
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#677 » by slick_watts » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:35 pm

Revived wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
Revived wrote:Thunder fans bumping this may want to wait to find out if Lakers (who went 3-1 against thunder btw) are their first rd matchup or not…because if it is and Thunder lose a #1 vs #8 matchup in rd 1 then all the chest thumping will have been for nothing. Sure Thunder will still have a bright future and yada yada yada but living in the present, round 1 may be a major problem.


if they lose they lose. the rebuild was successful, and all the casual trolls in this thread look foolish.


A #1 seed losing to a #8 seed would be seen as successful? The bar can’t possibly be set that low in OKC.


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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#678 » by Statlanta » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:36 pm

I don't get the chest thumping yet either because they could be 4-0'd and people would reverse bump the OKC posters for how fradulent the core was.

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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#679 » by Special_Puppy » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:38 pm

The Thunder now has the brightest future in the NBA
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Re: OKC is a disgrace 

Post#680 » by slick_watts » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:39 pm

Statlanta wrote:I don't get the chest thumping yet either


they just had a 7+ SRS season. they are contenders three years after all these bad posts were being made complaining about them. the results of the playoffs this year don't matter, the thunder have an elite core after two seasons of tanking and all the fools in this thread are now desperately flailing.

if they get eliminated in the 1st round? yeah that would suck. but it doesn't change where the team is at and how it expertly arrived there.

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