Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II)

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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#661 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 8:45 pm

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In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =
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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#662 » by nfmos » Fri Jun 3, 2022 8:46 pm

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Nothing he said was race-related. Dont bring that nonsense into this thread.


Nonsense is bringing up Jeremy Lin when he wasnt mentioned at all, exactly why else would he bring that up?


This is immaterial to my point. Don't play the race card for no reason; it cheapens attention paid to the issue on earnest, and is not positive thread contribution.


What was the positive thread contribution by bringing up Jeremy Lin when he wasnt mentioned at all? Ive seen how Rockets fans and others bring him up randomly on this forum and others, and there has definitely been racial motivations and dog whistles at times so no im not going to say 100% that wasnt part of the intention here, especially if he cant explain how he tied my comment into me being a Jeremy Lin fan. Why do you believe he brought him up?
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Post#663 » by Lalouie » Fri Jun 3, 2022 8:48 pm

i'd rather have lillard for "the shot"
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Post#664 » by LessEyeTest » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:08 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Memories wrote:
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In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


You think the Raptors team that squeaked by the 76ers with a lucky bounce beats prime GSW? If so, thanks for the laugh! :lol:
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Post#665 » by rtiff68 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:09 pm

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AussieCeltic wrote:I don’t get the Curry hate. The man was the only player doing anything for the Warriors.

Also, let’s not forget KD series against this Celtics team in round 1. 38% for the series!


It's not hate, but when you put him up there with the greatest players of all-time, you have to critique him like he's one.

After the first, where was he for 3 quarters?

How many all-time greats get a pass for playing bad for the last 3 quarters?

How many all-time greats get a pass for your team losing the 4th quarter 40-16?

So he's either not up there and shouldn't be critiqued harshly or he is and gets critiqued appropriately.

You really can't have it both ways.


I agree with the emboldened part, but I also think you’ve kind of erected a strawman.

If Steph is an all time great, should he be criticized for not playing well in the last 3 quarters of a Finals game?

Absolutely.

Does the fact that he played poorly in the last 3 quarters “prove” that he is overrated, a fraud, sux in the playoffs, <insert standard Curry hater point here>? Does it mean the stellar 1st quarter never happened, and it was like he had an 8 point game or something?

No.

You’re arguing the first part, while the vast majority of people taking umbrage at the Curry criticisms are arguing the second.
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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#666 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:10 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Memories wrote:
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In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


:lol:

Warriors with KD and Klay would destroy the 2019 Raptors.
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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#667 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:11 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Memories wrote:
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In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


They definitely beat us with a healthy KD and Klay. I don't think any team in history could beat them in a 7 game series.
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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#668 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:12 pm

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All that stat tells us is that the Warriors with KD were the most stacked team in the history of basketball.
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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#669 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:16 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:

In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


You think the Raptors team that squeaked by the 76ers with a lucky bounce beats prime GSW? If so, thanks for the laugh! :lol:


That's not how basketball works, yeah the 76ers were a good matchup for the Raptors because they had a star big and a star 2way wing, + ben simmons playing amazing defence for them.

Whos the star big on GSW, whos their 2way star defender? Who's their Ben simmons. That GSW team was offensively heavy. Like what kind of retort is that. This same boston team just beat Milwaukee without their 2nd best player, beat miami without their 2nd best player, and then just beat a fully healthy n rested GSW squad in convincing manner at that
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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#670 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:20 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:

In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


They definitely beat us with a healthy KD and Klay. I don't think any team in history could beat them in a 7 game series.


I totally disagree. We would've swept them if it wasn't for Demarcus cousins going bananas in game 2, who then proceeded to get ran off the court in game 3 only to never play again for them. We beat them 2x in the regular season, with one of those games KD went for like 50 if i'm not mistaken. 40+ at least. They weren't deep or big enough to match up against us for a 7 game series on the road.
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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#671 » by GSP » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:20 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Memories wrote:
Read on Twitter



In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


17 Warriors def beat the Raps lol lay off the drugs that was prolly the Goat team. Y'all dropped a game to Orlando gave them their only playoff win post Dwight

Raps prolly beat any other Warrior team tho except 18 but that's closer
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Post#672 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:25 pm

GSP wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:

In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


17 Warriors def beat the Raps lol lay off the drugs that was prolly the Goat team. Y'all dropped a game to Orlando gave them their only playoff win post Dwight

Raps prolly beat any other Warrior team tho except 18 but that's closer


Yeah i'm more likely to rock with that. The GSW with Bogut a younger iggy and livingston, that GSW team was amazing.

Do i get to include OG too who didn't get to play with us throughout the entire playoffs. You know another lanky 3+D defender who shoots high 30s on decent volume ??
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Post#673 » by QingJames » Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:45 pm

Warriors with KD beat the Raptors. They beat anyone. It’s just how it is.

Warriors without KD don’t. Simple as. No iteration of the KD-less Warriors was better than the Raptors. Klay was healthy and they were losing. They lost 12/18 quarters Klay played in (and two were ties) and 17/24 overall (again, with two being tied quarters).

This iteration of the Warriors would probably get swept, considering these guys weren’t good enough when they were 3 years younger.
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Post#674 » by tsherkin » Fri Jun 3, 2022 10:10 pm

nfmos wrote:
What was the positive thread contribution by bringing up Jeremy Lin when he wasnt mentioned at all? Ive seen how Rockets fans and others bring him up randomly on this forum and others, and there has definitely been racial motivations and dog whistles at times so no im not going to say 100% that wasnt part of the intention here, especially if he cant explain how he tied my comment into me being a Jeremy Lin fan. Why do you believe he brought him up?


I don't care. That's a separate issue. Don't make things worse for no reason, man. Let's get back to talking about Steph Curry, which was the point of this whole thread.
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Post#675 » by Rodwilliams » Fri Jun 3, 2022 10:45 pm

QingJames wrote:Warriors with KD beat the Raptors. They beat anyone. It’s just how it is.

Warriors without KD don’t. Simple as. No iteration of the KD-less Warriors was better than the Raptors. Klay was healthy and they were losing. They lost 12/18 quarters Klay played in (and two were ties) and 17/24 overall (again, with two being tied quarters).

This iteration of the Warriors would probably get swept, considering these guys weren’t good enough when they were 3 years younger.



100% agree. Klay wasn’t much of a difference maker and they would’ve lost that series with him regardless. Durant on the other hand gives them a sure win because of the dynamic he gives the Warriors. Series probably would’ve ended in 5 or 6 games.
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Post#676 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Fri Jun 3, 2022 10:55 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Memories wrote:
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In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


2019 raptors had their hands full beating a Warriors team with no KD and no Klay and no bench and a garbage 2nd option. Iguodala who was a low scorer in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 finals was the 2nd option after Klay was out injured. Iguodala’s highest scoring playoff year with the warriors was 10 points a game in 2015. in game 6 close out that the Raptors only won by 4 points despite being able to play a box and one on Curry. Raptors took the 4th quarter with no Klay 28 to 22 for the come from behind victory.

I don’t think the 2019 Raptors could beat this year’s Celtics, Bucks or Heat, or Grizzlies and maybe not even beat the 2022 Suns, Mavericks and Pelicans.
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Post#677 » by Hobo4President » Fri Jun 3, 2022 10:58 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Memories wrote:
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In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


WHAT??? I honestly don't think I've ever seen homerism that's this bad. That Raps team might just be the weakest championship team of the last decade and you're saying they win against the greatest team of all time? Lmaoooo
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Post#678 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Fri Jun 3, 2022 11:04 pm

QingJames wrote:Warriors with KD beat the Raptors. They beat anyone. It’s just how it is.

Warriors without KD don’t. Simple as. No iteration of the KD-less Warriors was better than the Raptors. Klay was healthy and they were losing. They lost 12/18 quarters Klay played in (and two were ties) and 17/24 overall (again, with two being tied quarters).

This iteration of the Warriors would probably get swept, considering these guys weren’t good enough when they were 3 years younger.

2015, 2016 and 2022 Warriors would all beat the 2019 Raptors in about 5 games. 2019 Warriors without KD were on their way to beating the Raptors without KD untill Klay got injured.
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Post#679 » by Big J » Fri Jun 3, 2022 11:09 pm

QingJames wrote:Warriors with KD beat the Raptors. They beat anyone. It’s just how it is.

Warriors without KD don’t. Simple as. No iteration of the KD-less Warriors was better than the Raptors. Klay was healthy and they were losing. They lost 12/18 quarters Klay played in (and two were ties) and 17/24 overall (again, with two being tied quarters).

This iteration of the Warriors would probably get swept, considering these guys weren’t good enough when they were 3 years younger.


The 19 team didn't have Wiggins & Poole.
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Post#680 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 11:43 pm

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:

In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


2019 raptors had their hands full beating a Warriors team with no KD and no Klay and no bench and a garbage 2nd option. Iguodala who was a low scorer in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 finals was the 2nd option after Klay was out injured. Iguodala’s highest scoring playoff year with the warriors was 10 points a game in 2015. in game 6 close out that the Raptors only won by 4 points despite being able to play a box and one on Curry. Raptors took the 4th quarter with no Klay 28 to 22 for the come from behind victory.

I don’t think the 2019 Raptors could beat this year’s Celtics, Bucks or Heat, or Grizzlies and maybe not even beat the 2022 Suns, Mavericks and Pelicans.


How did we have our hands full, we were up 3-1 at one point with Klay missing 1 game and a quarter. The game you guys did win again, DeMarcus cousin was the best player on the court.

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FVV norm OG Boucher Ibaka is definitely winning the chip this year if healthy ofcourse.
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