NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24

[HotRocks34]

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Doc Rivers sucks. Everyone agrees on that.

Jokic didn't win the award because of precedent. When people had to drill down on voting, they looked more into history. Once they did, Jokic lost the award.


Luka has already made a Conference Final and did it by beating the #1 seed in the league that had 64 wins after blowing them apart on their home floor in Game 7.

That's going to help if the vote is close, I'm sure.

I still favor Jokic, but I'm not surprised Luka is 2nd behind him in the odds.

[eyeatoma]

Co-star? LOL! Harden is ruining the Clippers as we speak.

Again, no Conference Final, no 2nd MVP.

That's the precedent.

Forgot you have a vote...if we're going by precedent then why was Jokic leading the MVP race most of last year?

Hahaha.

Yeah thats what I thought hypocrisy at it's finest. Goal post moving...

[eyeatoma]

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Doc Rivers sucks. Everyone agrees on that.

Jokic didn't win the award because of precedent. When people had to drill down on voting, they looked more into history. Once they did, Jokic lost the award.


Luka has already made a Conference Final and did it by beating the #1 seed in the league that had 64 wins after blowing them apart on their home floor in Game 7.

That's going to help if the vote is close, I'm sure.

I still favor Jokic, but I'm not surprised Luka is 2nd behind him in the odds.

Luka has a great shot but if Sixers and Nuggets have a better record I doubt he wins it.

[Sgt Major]

Jesus **** Christ, do you ever sleep?

[Wolfgang630]

Forgot you have a vote...if we're going by precedent then why was Jokic leading the MVP race most of last year?

Joker made it to the conference finals…lol

Talking about not winning a chip and being in the running for 3 MVPs in a row, which is unprecedented last year. Lol

Well he was just that good. He’s on track to be a top 10 player of all time. I’m not saying he will be, but that’s his potential so it’d make sense he would’ve done something unprecedented until racism was brought in by that clown.

[eyeatoma]

Joker made it to the conference finals…lol

Talking about not winning a chip and being in the running for 3 MVPs in a row, which is unprecedented last year. Lol

Well he was just that good. He’s on track to be a top 10 player of all time. I’m not saying he will be, but that’s his potential so it’d make sense he would’ve done something unprecedented until racism was brought in by that clown.

Ahhh... So we can alter precedent for Jokic but no one else.

[eyeatoma]

Joker made it to the conference finals…lol

Talking about not winning a chip and being in the running for 3 MVPs in a row, which is unprecedented last year. Lol

Well he was just that good. He’s on track to be a top 10 player of all time. I’m not saying he will be, but that’s his potential so it’d make sense he would’ve done something unprecedented until racism was brought in by that clown.

Racism might have opened the door but. Embiid broke it down with his last month and the slump by Jokic and the Nuggets.

[RRFB]

Luka will have to really take the lead. Lose Harden, top team in the east. If we go buy previous years embiid would get it.

No, he won't.

Historical precedence is crucial now as we saw last year.

No player has ever won a 2nd MVP without at least making the Conference Final.

Bad news for Embiid.

Luka, of course, has already made a Conference Final.

No player has had to deal with costar leaving as much either while weathering the storm and still being an elite team.

This isn’t the badge of honor that you think it is. The fact that Embiid’s co-stars keep wanting to leave says something about him. It’s impossible to imagine Jokic’s supporting cast forcing their way out of Denver.

[dygaction]

Talking about not winning a chip and being in the running for 3 MVPs in a row, which is unprecedented last year. Lol

Well he was just that good. He’s on track to be a top 10 player of all time. I’m not saying he will be, but that’s his potential so it’d make sense he would’ve done something unprecedented until racism was brought in by that clown.

Ahhh... So we can alter precedent for Jokic but no one else.

So we did not alter precedent for unprecedented Jokic, but gave the MVP to a lesser version as precedent and you are still whining 24/7...

[Johnny Firpo]

Embiid was an okay selection last year, I personally would have given it to Joker, but it really wasn't that big of a robbery. A little bit, yeah, but Joker going all way shouldn't change that retrospectively. Now this year Jokic can actually have an unfair advantage too, by winning last year, so if it's going to be close stat-wise and record wise, I would think the voters this time will go with him. Still too early of course, but another ten games, and we will probably looking at Jokic, Luka, Tatum and Embiid as the main contenders, or maybe Jokic and Tatum can separate a little due to team records (I feel the Nuggets and the Celtics are good bets to eventually get ahead in their conference with some separation).

[Floody23]

Why am I not shocked eyatoma is bombarding this thread again lol ?

You’d think after the embarrassing second round exit yet again he might wait until Embiid actually does something in the playoffs ? Which is quite ironic after all the whinging he did last season about Jokic not deserving it because of the lack of playoff success (even though at that point he’d been further than Embiid in the playoffs).

Jokic is the best player in the league & is having the best start to the season out of everyone. Until Jokic either gets injured or starts to play poorly their is no case for anyone but him so far.

[eyeatoma]

No, he won't.

Historical precedence is crucial now as we saw last year.

No player has ever won a 2nd MVP without at least making the Conference Final.

Bad news for Embiid.

Luka, of course, has already made a Conference Final.

No player has had to deal with costar leaving as much either while weathering the storm and still being an elite team.

This isn’t the badge of honor that you think it is. The fact that Embiid’s co-stars keep wanting to leave says something about him. It’s impossible to imagine Jokic’s supporting cast forcing their way out of Denver.

No it actually doesn't.

[Exp0sed]

Hmm, the 76ers and Celtics lead east, the nuggets and Mavs west. While Jokic and Embiid are leading, Luka and Tatum are really blowing at their necks this year. If Mavs somehow manage to stay this high, this might be a Lukas year.

Tatum isn't blowing at their necks, he's a good tier below that. in a scenario where the others haven't played enough games and the C's are really dominating and have by far the best record, maybe he could have squeaked an MVP in there but that's not been the case thus far

Tatum is having an awesome season but he's pretty far from the top guys atm and hard to see him catching up

Luka is def in that tier tho, I think it's safe to say he has the least help of all viable candidates, if he can keep the Mavs not that far back in terms of record and will continue to play like he has, he'll be in the running/

I have him at #2 rn

[eyeatoma]

Why am I not shocked eyatoma is bombarding this thread again lol ?

You’d think after the embarrassing second round exit yet again he might wait until Embiid actually does something in the playoffs ? Which is quite ironic after all the whinging he did last season about Jokic not deserving it because of the lack of playoff success (even though at that point he’d been further than Embiid in the playoffs).

Jokic is the best player in the league & is having the best start to the season out of everyone. Until Jokic either gets injured or starts to play poorly their is no case for anyone but him so far.

Should just call this the Jokic thread then...

[Exp0sed]

Why am I not shocked eyatoma is bombarding this thread again lol ?

You’d think after the embarrassing second round exit yet again he might wait until Embiid actually does something in the playoffs ? Which is quite ironic after all the whinging he did last season about Jokic not deserving it because of the lack of playoff success (even though at that point he’d been further than Embiid in the playoffs).

Jokic is the best player in the league & is having the best start to the season out of everyone. Until Jokic either gets injured or starts to play poorly their is no case for anyone but him so far.

Should just call this the Jokic thread then...

haven't you learned by now?
every season Joe L is beasting on tanking teams, getting cheap foul calls left and right while being pretty average from the field.
every year he shows up big time vs the bottom teams and ducks the top teams, your precious duckling "warrior"

Then the playoffs start, he's not getting 19 times to the line so he actually needs to convert his shots, but he doesn't know how to do that because he's stuck on foul baiting mode

Embiid scoring 33 on 8-22 vs. the lowly young Pistons just doesn't do it for us the same way it does for you, haha

been there, done that

[Wolfgang630]

This man said Joe L lol

[eyeatoma]

Why am I not shocked eyatoma is bombarding this thread again lol ?

You’d think after the embarrassing second round exit yet again he might wait until Embiid actually does something in the playoffs ? Which is quite ironic after all the whinging he did last season about Jokic not deserving it because of the lack of playoff success (even though at that point he’d been further than Embiid in the playoffs).

Jokic is the best player in the league & is having the best start to the season out of everyone. Until Jokic either gets injured or starts to play poorly their is no case for anyone but him so far.

Should just call this the Jokic thread then...

haven't you learned by now?
every season Joe L is beasting on tanking teams, getting cheap foul calls left and right while being pretty average from the field.
every year he shows up big time vs the bottom teams and ducks the top teams, your precious duckling "warrior"

Then the playoffs start, he's not getting 19 times to the line so he actually needs to convert his shots, but he doesn't know how to do that because he's stuck on foul baiting mode

Embiid scoring 33 on 8-22 vs. the lowly young Pistons just doesn't do it for us the same way it does for you, haha

been there, done that

Funny Embiid just beat the Celtics...

He also dropped 50 on them in the regular season last year. Any other false narratives you want to propogate?

[Floody23]

Should just call this the Jokic thread then...

haven't you learned by now?
every season Joe L is beasting on tanking teams, getting cheap foul calls left and right while being pretty average from the field.
every year he shows up big time vs the bottom teams and ducks the top teams, your precious duckling "warrior"

Then the playoffs start, he's not getting 19 times to the line so he actually needs to convert his shots, but he doesn't know how to do that because he's stuck on foul baiting mode

Embiid scoring 33 on 8-22 vs. the lowly young Pistons just doesn't do it for us the same way it does for you, haha

been there, done that

Funny Embiid just beat the Celtics...

He also dropped 50 on them in the regular season last year. Any other false narratives you want to propogate?

Key words - ‘regular season’ ..

[eyeatoma]

haven't you learned by now?
every season Joe L is beasting on tanking teams, getting cheap foul calls left and right while being pretty average from the field.
every year he shows up big time vs the bottom teams and ducks the top teams, your precious duckling "warrior"

Then the playoffs start, he's not getting 19 times to the line so he actually needs to convert his shots, but he doesn't know how to do that because he's stuck on foul baiting mode

Embiid scoring 33 on 8-22 vs. the lowly young Pistons just doesn't do it for us the same way it does for you, haha

been there, done that

Funny Embiid just beat the Celtics...

He also dropped 50 on them in the regular season last year. Any other false narratives you want to propogate?

Key words - ‘regular season’ ..

He averaged 30 against the Celtics in the playoffs during the bubble.

[Wargreymon]

It's Jokic so far. Luka definitely in 2nd after that masterclass virtuoso he hung on the Clippers though