2024-25 NBA MVP Discussion Thread

[Infinite Llamas]

They lost 4 close games to the two best teams in the league in Celtics and Cavs so nice try on that worst conference ****. Jokic and Denver has one more win then Giannis and the bucks.

Saying the east is weak is a fact, very weird of you to label a factual statement as ****. Having the two teams with the best record actually makes that fact even stronger. But nice try, I guess.

The fact that it is doesn’t mean nothing if 4 of their loses are to the two best teams in the league and one was a buzzer beater now if those 4 loses were to those bottom feeders I wouldn’t say ****. The nuggets and jokic just got blown out by the mavs without Doncic. And Malone is probably at least a tier or two above Doc as a coach who just started to play his younger players who were obviously better than the slow as vets but it took him to be 2-8 for that.

They lost to Dallas by 3 points and Jokic was a +4 in the game. “Blown out” lol

[basketballRob]

Franz should be in the top 10.

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[Packbuckman]

Saying the east is weak is a fact, very weird of you to label a factual statement as ****. Having the two teams with the best record actually makes that fact even stronger. But nice try, I guess.

The fact that it is doesn’t mean nothing if 4 of their loses are to the two best teams in the league and one was a buzzer beater now if those 4 loses were to those bottom feeders I wouldn’t say ****. The nuggets and jokic just got blown out by the mavs without Doncic. And Malone is probably at least a tier or two above Doc as a coach who just started to play his younger players who were obviously better than the slow as vets but it took him to be 2-8 for that.

They lost to Dallas by 3 points and Jokic was a +4 in the game. “Blown out” lol

They were getting blown out I forgot they came back to make it close in the end lol

[MavsDirk41]

They lost 4 close games to the two best teams in the league in Celtics and Cavs so nice try on that worst conference ****. Jokic and Denver has one more win then Giannis and the bucks.

Saying the east is weak is a fact, very weird of you to label a factual statement as ****. Having the two teams with the best record actually makes that fact even stronger. But nice try, I guess.

The fact that it is doesn’t mean nothing if 4 of their loses are to the two best teams in the league and one was a buzzer beater now if those 4 loses were to those bottom feeders I wouldn’t say ****. The nuggets and jokic just got blown out by the mavs without Doncic. And Malone is probably at least a tier or two above Doc as a coach who just started to play his younger players who were obviously better than the slow as vets but it took him to be 2-8 for that.

My Mavs didnt blow out Denver the other night. We were up 20 and then Denver actually came back and took the lead in the 4th. Kidd took a timeout, we went on a 7-0 run thanks to PJ Washington and that was game. It was Jokic’s first game back after missing the previous 3 games. We have a pretty good center combo and he had his way with us like he normally does.

[Wolfgang630]

Franz should be in the top 10.

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I agree. Edwards should not be on this list nor should Curry ahead of Giannis and Franz

[Packbuckman]

Saying the east is weak is a fact, very weird of you to label a factual statement as ****. Having the two teams with the best record actually makes that fact even stronger. But nice try, I guess.

The fact that it is doesn’t mean nothing if 4 of their loses are to the two best teams in the league and one was a buzzer beater now if those 4 loses were to those bottom feeders I wouldn’t say ****. The nuggets and jokic just got blown out by the mavs without Doncic. And Malone is probably at least a tier or two above Doc as a coach who just started to play his younger players who were obviously better than the slow as vets but it took him to be 2-8 for that.

My Mavs didnt blow out Denver the other night. We were up 20 and then Denver actually came back and took the lead in the 4th. Kidd took a timeout, we went on a 7-0 run thanks to PJ Washington and that was game. It was Jokic’s first game back after missing the previous 3 games. We have a pretty good center combo and he had his way with us like he normally does.

There is no really big physical skilled centers in the league like there use to be Embiid the only one but he’s hurt all the time. Jokic got the weight on both your centers and he uses that well against them.

[MavsDirk41]

The fact that it is doesn’t mean nothing if 4 of their loses are to the two best teams in the league and one was a buzzer beater now if those 4 loses were to those bottom feeders I wouldn’t say ****. The nuggets and jokic just got blown out by the mavs without Doncic. And Malone is probably at least a tier or two above Doc as a coach who just started to play his younger players who were obviously better than the slow as vets but it took him to be 2-8 for that.

My Mavs didnt blow out Denver the other night. We were up 20 and then Denver actually came back and took the lead in the 4th. Kidd took a timeout, we went on a 7-0 run thanks to PJ Washington and that was game. It was Jokic’s first game back after missing the previous 3 games. We have a pretty good center combo and he had his way with us like he normally does.

There is no really big physical skilled centers in the league like there use to be Embiid the only one but he’s hurt all the time. Jokic got the weight on both your centers and he uses that well against them.

I agree with you 100%! The league is small. Im 49 and started watching basketball in the late 80s. The center position nowadays is a joke compared to bigs of the past. Gafford is probably 230 and Lively is no bigger than 220.

[Packbuckman]

My Mavs didnt blow out Denver the other night. We were up 20 and then Denver actually came back and took the lead in the 4th. Kidd took a timeout, we went on a 7-0 run thanks to PJ Washington and that was game. It was Jokic’s first game back after missing the previous 3 games. We have a pretty good center combo and he had his way with us like he normally does.

There is no really big physical skilled centers in the league like there use to be Embiid the only one but he’s hurt all the time. Jokic got the weight on both your centers and he uses that well against them.

I agree with you 100%! The league is small. Im 49 and started watching basketball in the late 80s. The center position nowadays is a joke compared to bigs of the past. Gafford is probably 230 and Lively is no bigger than 220.

Ya I am 62 and remember Kareem as a young player he was best player I ever seen. Oh I forgot about Lopez and he’s on my team lol
But he’s old and slow but looks huge out there to everyone

[MavsDirk41]

There is no really big physical skilled centers in the league like there use to be Embiid the only one but he’s hurt all the time. Jokic got the weight on both your centers and he uses that well against them.

I agree with you 100%! The league is small. Im 49 and started watching basketball in the late 80s. The center position nowadays is a joke compared to bigs of the past. Gafford is probably 230 and Lively is no bigger than 220.

Ya I am 62 and remember Kareem as a young player he was best player I ever seen. Oh I forgot about Lopez and he’s on my team lol
But he’s old and slow but looks huge out there to everyone

Yea Lopez looks like a giant out there. I think the injuries to Middleton is what has really hurt Milwaukee over the last few years. Milwaukee misses his shooting and scoring from that wing spot. Plus, he is a decent defender when healthy.

I miss 90s nba. NBA on NBC. It was awesome.

[Packbuckman]

I agree with you 100%! The league is small. Im 49 and started watching basketball in the late 80s. The center position nowadays is a joke compared to bigs of the past. Gafford is probably 230 and Lively is no bigger than 220.

Ya I am 62 and remember Kareem as a young player he was best player I ever seen. Oh I forgot about Lopez and he’s on my team lol
But he’s old and slow but looks huge out there to everyone

Yea Lopez looks like a giant out there. I think the injuries to Middleton is what has really hurt Milwaukee over the last few years. Milwaukee misses his shooting and scoring from that wing spot. Plus, he is a decent defender when healthy.

I miss 90s nba. NBA on NBC. It was awesome.

Ya Middleton is our glue guy might be 2nd most important player besides Giannis. With Middleton it’s his passing and being the perfect compliment to Giannis they play so well together. Very excited to see a Dame Ajax Middleton Giannis Lopez lineup.

[MavsDirk41]

Ya I am 62 and remember Kareem as a young player he was best player I ever seen. Oh I forgot about Lopez and he’s on my team lol
But he’s old and slow but looks huge out there to everyone

Yea Lopez looks like a giant out there. I think the injuries to Middleton is what has really hurt Milwaukee over the last few years. Milwaukee misses his shooting and scoring from that wing spot. Plus, he is a decent defender when healthy.

I miss 90s nba. NBA on NBC. It was awesome.

Ya Middleton is our glue guy might be 2nd most important player besides Giannis. With Middleton it’s his passing and being the perfect compliment to Giannis they play so well together. Very excited to see a Dame Ajax Middleton Giannis Lopez lineup.

Good luck my friend!

[Packbuckman]

Yea Lopez looks like a giant out there. I think the injuries to Middleton is what has really hurt Milwaukee over the last few years. Milwaukee misses his shooting and scoring from that wing spot. Plus, he is a decent defender when healthy.

I miss 90s nba. NBA on NBC. It was awesome.

Ya Middleton is our glue guy might be 2nd most important player besides Giannis. With Middleton it’s his passing and being the perfect compliment to Giannis they play so well together. Very excited to see a Dame Ajax Middleton Giannis Lopez lineup.

Good luck my friend!

Thx you to!

[Mrakar]

They lost 4 close games to the two best teams in the league in Celtics and Cavs so nice try on that worst conference ****. Jokic and Denver has one more win then Giannis and the bucks.

Saying the east is weak is a fact, very weird of you to label a factual statement as ****. Having the two teams with the best record actually makes that fact even stronger. But nice try, I guess.

The fact that it is doesn’t mean nothing if 4 of their loses are to the two best teams in the league and one was a buzzer beater now if those 4 loses were to those bottom feeders I wouldn’t say ****. The nuggets and jokic just got blown out by the mavs without Doncic. And Malone is probably at least a tier or two above Doc as a coach who just started to play his younger players who were obviously better than the slow as vets but it took him to be 2-8 for that.

[MiltownMadness]

Giannis not even his own option is **** crazy never change, realGM

Legit just might as well make a new thread, the MVP isn't even an option. The poll is void

[Wolfgang630]

@bisme37 should update the poll.

[GeorgeSears]

Didn't watch much of the Olympics, but this stat pretty much ends the debate on who the best player in the league is right now

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[bisme37]

Giannis not even his own option is **** crazy never change, realGM

Legit just might as well make a new thread, the MVP isn't even an option. The poll is void

Ffs you guys I'm trying over here lol. I'm just an NBA fan on a couch and have a life like everyone else. I just re-did the rookie thread. I'll get to this one when I get to it.

When the poll went up the Bucks were in last 13th place in the East and Giannis wasn't an MVP candidate. It's just an internet poll and our votes don't actually change anything in real life or make our preferred candidate the MVP.

[bisme37]

Lol I was in the middle of a post about how Miltownmadness is now in charge of the MVP thread but he deleted the rude comment I was replying to.

[Lakers In 5]

Giannis not even his own option is **** crazy never change, realGM

Legit just might as well make a new thread, the MVP isn't even an option. The poll is void

I can vote for Jokic just fine. Maybe something wrong with your browser?

[Jaqua92]

Jokic:
34 points, 13 rebounds, 8 assists, 2 steals, 1 block on 12/20 FG, 3/7 3PT, 7/8 FT against a winning team on the road

Giannis:
32 points, 11 rebounds, 6 assists, 0 steals, 2 blocks on 12/23 FG, 1/3 3PT, 7/10 FT against a losing team at home

Hope that clears it up.

Can we not use straight counting stats when Jokic plays an extra 3 minutes a game to Giannis and a few others.

Jokic is leading the NBA in VORP, PER, BPM, and WS/48 if you want to go that route.

And EPM, LEBRON and a few others as well.