Luka AD trade thread Part II

[Castle Black]

Lol. Sorry Mavs fans.

[ConSarnit]

There’s no need for all these grand conspiracy theories. The Mavs think AD is better than Luka and they won the trade. It’s really that simple.

This obviously goes against conventional thinking, but the Mavs think they know something we don’t. They’re essentially shorting Luka and betting on him never winning anything. They’re saying he’s OVERRATED.

This is like if Jeff Bezos sold all of his Amazon stock, all at once. If you’re an Amazon stockholder, aren’t you at least a little worried about your own shares?

We need to reevaluate Luka’s actual value.

This. I think people gonna be shocked when the dust settles. Mavericks are title contenders with one or two more pieces

Great job Mavs. Just one or two more pieces away from title contention. As opposed to last year when they, um, actually made the finals?

The Mavs have literally been to the Western conference finals 2 of the past 4 years. Seems like they already had a contender.

[Kobe187]

A lot of people seriously underrating AD, he’s a monster on both ends of the floor, a very good defensive team just got better, AD should provide 25 points a game and brings good offence too, not just great D. Scoring by committee approach for the Mavs with elite level Defence, will be interesting to see if AD can deliver them a Championship, they gave up the future to win now.

[___Rand___]

How is Luka going to pass physicals?

lol I think Lakers are going to have to waive physicals.

[Kobe187]

How is Luka going to pass physicals?

lol I think Lakers are going to have to waive physicals.

[Jedi32]

seems like dallas didn't want to pay luka the supermax

[zshawn10]

There’s no need for all these grand conspiracy theories. The Mavs think AD is better than Luka and they won the trade. It’s really that simple.

This obviously goes against conventional thinking, but the Mavs think they know something we don’t. They’re essentially shorting Luka and betting on him never winning anything. They’re saying he’s OVERRATED.

This is like if Jeff Bezos sold all of his Amazon stock, all at once. If you’re an Amazon stockholder, aren’t you at least a little worried about your own shares?

We need to reevaluate Luka’s actual value.

This. I think people gonna be shocked when the dust settles. Mavericks are title contenders with one or two more pieces

For how long though? Kyrie is 32 or 33 and ad is about the same age and kyrie has a player option next year and the mavs don’t control their picks from 2027-2020

[Kobe187]

Read on Twitter

Lol this is crazy

[California Gold]

There’s no need for all these grand conspiracy theories. The Mavs think AD is better than Luka and they won the trade. It’s really that simple.

This obviously goes against conventional thinking, but the Mavs think they know something we don’t. They’re essentially shorting Luka and betting on him never winning anything. They’re saying he’s OVERRATED.

This is like if Jeff Bezos sold all of his Amazon stock, all at once. If you’re an Amazon stockholder, aren’t you at least a little worried about your own shares?

We need to reevaluate Luka’s actual value.

We know his value based on the results we've seen from Luka.

They don't have to think AD is a better player, but rather a better fit for what they have with their roster. And I guess when I say they I mean one man, their GM.

You may think he’s super valuable and untradable, but the Mavs clearly don’t. They think he’s an overvalued asset, and cashing him in for AD, Christie, and a pick is a good return. Time will tell if they’re crazy or not, but that’s what they believe after being around Luka these past 7 years.

Nico certainly believes AD is their missing piece and was going to do anything to get him. That's how I see it. Time will tell if he's right or not. I'm sure he would have rather kept Luka and paired him with AD but they had no shot at doing that. Further I would say any player that gets traded can have his value change relative to that team. So Luka's value or what it's perceived will be different with the Lakers than it would be with the Mavs.

[gmoney411]

A lot of people seriously underrating AD, he’s a monster on both ends of the floor, a very good defensive team just got better, AD should provide 25 points a game and brings good offence too, not just great D. Scoring by committee approach for the Mavs with elite level Defence, will be interesting to see if AD can deliver them a Championship, they gave up the future to win now.

It's not even about disrespecting AD. How did the Mavs not get Reeves, Knecht, and more first round picks out of this deal? I cannot believe this is a serious basketball trade without the Mavs getting more. Either Nico is doing his friend a solid or the Mavs ownership is burning bridges in Dallas to move the team to Vegas.

[___Rand___]

Chuck says this trade makes Mavs 2nd best team in the West. Does it?

Watch on YouTube

[___Rand___]

the Lakers don't care about this season, they weren't gonna win a 'chip anyway and they knew that

this is about the next decade, not about this season.the Lakers got offered a once in a life time deal they could never refuse (and shouldn't refuse), you say "hell yeah!" before Harrison regains his sanity and worry about the rest later

They definitely wont be competing now.

This is about LBJ and he signed off on this. Lakers are not making this move without his approval. Also, Luka can extend with whoever he wants. Supermax is off the table and LA can offer the same contract that any other team can. LBJ will be retired then and LA will be a team with no talent and maybe a HC still who's got no experience to navigate that situation.

I don't think that's true. yes, the supermax is off the table but they still retain his Bird rights with this trade which means they can offer more, no? regardless, Luka will sign a 1+1 deal with a player option where he can opt out after 10 years in the league and be eligible for that supermax again. he will do it knowing full well the Lakers are 100% committed and have no qualms whatsoever about giving him that payday

L.A is the right market for him, he's a Hollywood type with lots of flash and bravado. he's not going anywhere (sadly).

I mean this is the right "market" for him though as a player. Marketing is going to be huge. He's shocked now, but he's going to be Hollywood Luka and those marketing dollars will more than make up for missing out on supermax next year.

[Camby_Bamby]

There’s no need for all these grand conspiracy theories. The Mavs think AD is better than Luka and they won the trade. It’s really that simple.

This obviously goes against conventional thinking, but the Mavs think they know something we don’t. They’re essentially shorting Luka and betting on him never winning anything. They’re saying he’s OVERRATED.

This is like if Jeff Bezos sold all of his Amazon stock, all at once. If you’re an Amazon stockholder, aren’t you at least a little worried about your own shares?

We need to reevaluate Luka’s actual value.

This. I think people gonna be shocked when the dust settles. Mavericks are title contenders with one or two more pieces

Great job Mavs. Just one or two more pieces away from title contention. As opposed to last year when they, um, actually made the finals?

The Mavs have literally been to the Western conference finals 2 of the past 4 years. Seems like they already had a contender.

AD led them to a ring. The team couldn't cracks 40 games before that. When he was injured, they got back door swept by the Suns. Couldn't make the play-offs without him the following year.

If he gets ANY HELP, consistently vs the Nuggets, they'd likely have another ring.

[John Murdoch]

The more I think about this I don’t hate Luka for AD for the Mavs. I think the team could be more balanced and better in some aspect at least for 2-3 years. Getting away from that supermax had to be part of logic. All that said the value was off. Mavs needed at least one, maybe 2 additional firsts imo.

Ur in like phase two of denial

[cornchip]

I think I know why this trade happened. I fear Luka has a serious, career altering injury. The Mavs, aware of that, wanted to make the best out of the situation. They figured that the Lakers would be interested in damaged goods Luka because they could still market the heck out of him, jersey sales are going to be through the roof, just like Bronny.

Dallas doesn't make this trade if Luka is healthy. But who knows, I'm just trying to figure out why it was made.

You know each player traded has to pass the medical checkup right?

As far as I know, unless Luka has some life-threatening injury or illness, all the Mavs have to do is disclose his medical history and it's on the Lakers to take the risk.

Not saying this is the case, but it does make some sense. Harrison not shopping Luka around and letting word get out about his medical future (this is why the Pels haven't dealt Zion). It also explains the limited return.

Still probably worth the risk for the Lakers.

[brackdan70]

The more I think about this I don’t hate Luka for AD for the Mavs. I think the team could be more balanced and better in some aspect at least for 2-3 years. Getting away from that supermax had to be part of logic. All that said the value was off. Mavs needed at least one, maybe 2 additional firsts imo.

Ur in like phase two of denial

I am not Mavs fan. Just my opinion.

[The-Stallion70]

The last one was 100+ pages so too much to sift through.

I assume he demanded to go to LA. Because if not, why not have an all out trade war for him? There is no doubt they could’ve gotten so much more in return from other teams.

Just for what little they got in return. I feel like it has to be one of 2 things.

1. He demanded a trade only to LA and made it known he was going to bounce to free agency in 2 summers unless it was to the Lakers

2. There is massive red flags with his medical that we’re don’t know about.

Youre delusional

If it was a team other than the Lakers, New York Boston or Miami you could maybe try to explain but this was obviously done for league revenue and health of the business.

Luka is out of shape and still averaging 28 7 and 8 and took the team to the Finals last year

Any counter argument is silly

So are you saying the league called up Dallas and told them to trade him to LA?

Yes in essence I think that this was possibly years in the making and all parties had been trying to figure out how to build the narrative in the public's eyes.

[Ballerhogger]

Lol. Sorry Mavs fans.

Aged like a fine wine

[TeamTragic]

Rumor is that Kyrie was benched because he disagreed with the Luka trade.

BUCKLE UP

[BmanInBigD]

There’s no need for all these grand conspiracy theories. The Mavs think AD is better than Luka and they won the trade. It’s really that simple.

This obviously goes against conventional thinking, but the Mavs think they know something we don’t. They’re essentially shorting Luka and betting on him never winning anything. They’re saying he’s OVERRATED.

This is like if Jeff Bezos sold all of his Amazon stock, all at once. If you’re an Amazon stockholder, aren’t you at least a little worried about your own shares?

We need to reevaluate Luka’s actual value.

This. I think people gonna be shocked when the dust settles. Mavericks are title contenders with one or two more pieces

Yeah, like a Luka alpha dog at point guard. Oh wait, they just gave that away for a Day-to-Davis player. You’re nuts, IOW.