RGM GOAT Debate Thread

Rust_Cohle · Post #681 » by **Rust_Cohle** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:51 pm

Double three peat >>>>

Stannis · Post #682 » by **Stannis** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:52 pm

warriorschamps wrote:Honestly I don't even know why anyone would even mention Jordan and Lebron in the same sentence other than maybe to laugh at Lebron. Jordan wasn't just some big freak of nature dude. The man had BASKETBALL talent. Not a great shooter but still had so much basketball talent.

lol c'mon man...

LaLover11 · Post #683 » by **LaLover11** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:53 pm

warriorschamps wrote:I mean could you imagine Jordan being held to 8 points in an NBA Finals game by 5'10 JJ barera. Yeah I couldn't either.

Life is crazy huh lol 4pts lmao

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EmpireFalls · Post #684 » by **EmpireFalls** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:53 pm

No one ever loses once their career is over. Others can only add to their resumes, that’s it. Jordan’s legacy will never change or worsen over time, and neither will LeBron’s. It can only grow.

Jcool0 · Post #685 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:59 pm

Iwasawitness wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
90's Teams never had a better overall team and talent and coaching compared to the 90's Bulls

It's just facts

93 Suns had a better team then the Bulls

So why were the Bulls favored to win that year

LaLover11 · Post #686 » by **LaLover11** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:00 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
Iwasawitness wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
93 Suns had a better team then the Bulls

So why were the Bulls favored to win that year

The more you know

Jcool0 · Post #687 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:05 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
warriorschamps wrote:I mean could you imagine Jordan being held to 8 points in an NBA Finals game by 5'10 JJ barera. Yeah I couldn't either.

Life is crazy huh lol 4pts lmao

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You know he was only on the team to hang out with the guys and play golf right? If any of those games got close to 10 points he would of just scored a quick 15 and said i don't think so.

LaLover11 · Post #688 » by **LaLover11** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:06 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
warriorschamps wrote:I mean could you imagine Jordan being held to 8 points in an NBA Finals game by 5'10 JJ barera. Yeah I couldn't either.

Life is crazy huh lol 4pts lmao

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You know he was only on the team to hang out with the guys and play golf right? If any of those games got close to 10 points he would of just scored a quick 15 and said i don't think so.

22 minutes wow smh

LeBron 2024 Olympics MVP at 39 yrs old :lol:

Jcool0 · Post #689 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:09 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
Life is crazy huh lol 4pts lmao

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You know he was only on the team to hang out with the guys and play golf right? If any of those games got close to 10 points he would of just scored a quick 15 and said i don't think so.

22 minutes wow smh

LeBron 2024 Olympics MVP at 39 yrs old

What does that have to do with anything?

LaLover11 · Post #690 » by **LaLover11** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:11 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
You know he was only on the team to hang out with the guys and play golf right? If any of those games got close to 10 points he would of just scored a quick 15 and said i don't think so.

22 minutes wow smh

LeBron 2024 Olympics MVP at 39 yrs old

What does that have to do with anything?

Literally Read the OP Thread title lol

jc23 · Post #691 » by **jc23** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:13 pm

we are in the moment so it matters now, but i never heard someone bring up Olympic medals in any of these GOAT discussions the last forever.

Jcool0 · Post #692 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:15 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
22 minutes wow smh

LeBron 2024 Olympics MVP at 39 yrs old

What does that have to do with anything?

Literally Read the OP Thread title lol

your just ignoring what people are posting. Not surprising.

nikster · Post #693 » by **nikster** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:18 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
93 Suns had a better team then the Bulls

No chance, plus Bulls had a way better coach

lol okay. They won a league best 62 games and had the league MVP. They had a starting lineup of All Stars Dan Majerle, Charles Barkley and Kevin Johnson. Had 4 players average 15+ pgg and 7 average 10+ pgg. The Suns averaged 113 ppg best int he league, next closet was Seattle at 108.

Think it's close to a wash, I dont think you can confidently say Suns were better. Scottie pippen was better than anybody Charles had beside him, Horace Grant was all defensive 2nd team, BJ Armstrong had a great finals and was all star the next year.

Chicago was coming off back to back championships, taking it easy in the regular season is expected for teams like that so the fact that Phoenix had a better record doesn't say much. Their ppg was also influenced by a relatively high pace (and Chicago's was slow). Offensive rating Suns had was 113.3, but Bulls were right behind them at 112.9.

Homer38 · Post #694 » by **Homer38** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:23 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
CBS7 wrote:
You're an example of someone who keeps fishing lol
Having one allstar teammate is a superteam now

90's Teams never had a better overall team and talent and coaching compared to the 90's Bulls

It's just facts

93 Suns had a better team then the Bulls

The suns had almost lost against the 39-43 lakers team in the first round in 1993....

Jcool0 · Post #695 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:26 pm

nikster wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
No chance, plus Bulls had a way better coach

lol okay. They won a league best 62 games and had the league MVP. They had a starting lineup of All Stars Dan Majerle, Charles Barkley and Kevin Johnson. Had 4 players average 15+ pgg and 7 average 10+ pgg. The Suns averaged 113 ppg best int he league, next closet was Seattle at 108.

Think it's close to a wash, I dont think you can confidently say Suns were better. Scottie pippen was better than anybody Charles had beside him, Horace Grant was all defensive 2nd team, BJ Armstrong had a great finals and was all star the next year.

Chicago was coming off back to back championships, taking it easy in the regular season is expected for teams like that so the fact that Phoenix had a better record doesn't say much. Their ppg was also influenced by a relatively high pace (and Chicago's was slow). Offensive rating Suns had was 113.3, but Bulls were right behind them at 112.9.

Bulls won the championship so they were the "better team". But for the year the Suns were better. They did take Chicago to almost 7 games with Jordan averaging 40 pgg.

Hornet Mania · Post #696 » by **Hornet Mania** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:27 pm

No one counts Team USA medals in GOAT debates. Maybe for an international great leading their team to an unexpected gold (Ginobli), but on star-studded teams like the USA it really doesn't matter at all.

Lebron's career is coming to a close and the desperation to put him over Jordan is getting stronger. It's sad to see. Lebron is an amazing player and if most people have him as 2nd greatest ever that's still an incredible accomplishment. There's no need to get bent out of shape if he falls short in the public consciousness, which seems certain.

Post #697 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:31 pm

warriorschamps wrote:Honestly I don't even know why anyone would even mention Jordan and Lebron in the same sentence other than maybe to laugh at Lebron. Jordan wasn't just some big freak of nature dude. The man had BASKETBALL talent. Not a great shooter but still had so much basketball talent.

So you understand that Michael Jordan was an outlier athlete, right? And how that incredible physical dominance informed and shaped his game?

And in your efforts to attack and diminish Lebron, you are still obligated to treat in reality, which includes Lebron's various basketball skills. Like court vision, playmaking, post play, 3pt shooting, etc, etc, yes?

Also, you even got the part about Jordan wrong. He WAS a great shooter, just not from 3.

LaLover11 · Post #698 » by **LaLover11** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:32 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
nikster wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
lol okay. They won a league best 62 games and had the league MVP. They had a starting lineup of All Stars Dan Majerle, Charles Barkley and Kevin Johnson. Had 4 players average 15+ pgg and 7 average 10+ pgg. The Suns averaged 113 ppg best int he league, next closet was Seattle at 108.

Think it's close to a wash, I dont think you can confidently say Suns were better. Scottie pippen was better than anybody Charles had beside him, Horace Grant was all defensive 2nd team, BJ Armstrong had a great finals and was all star the next year.

Chicago was coming off back to back championships, taking it easy in the regular season is expected for teams like that so the fact that Phoenix had a better record doesn't say much. Their ppg was also influenced by a relatively high pace (and Chicago's was slow). Offensive rating Suns had was 113.3, but Bulls were right behind them at 112.9.

Bulls won the championship so they were the "better team". But for the year the Suns were better. They did take Chicago to almost 7 games with Jordan averaging 40 pgg.

Regular season means nothing lmao

LeBron won 66 games by himself lmao :rofl:

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Bergmaniac · Post #699 » by **Bergmaniac** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:36 pm

Mods, please keep this stuff in the GOAT sticky thread.

Post #700 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:38 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:Mods, please keep this stuff in the GOAT sticky thread.

You know that it works better if you send a PM directly to a mod, or do a post report, right?

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