2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacers (IND leads 1-0)

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Who wins and advances to the NBA Finals?

Poll ended at Thu May 22, 2025 2:39 am

Knicks in 4
13
5%
Knicks in 5
31
11%
Knicks in 6
62
22%
Knicks in 7
50
18%
Pacers in 4
5
2%
Pacers in 5
7
3%
Pacers in 6
84
30%
Pacers in 7
25
9%
 
Total votes: 277

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Re: 2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacers 

Post#681 » by LFGK » Wed May 21, 2025 1:28 pm

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LethalRangee wrote:Will we be surprised today when the Knicks win by 20+? Indy is fool’s gold.


Wouldn't suprise me one bit. The Knicks have the better player in each position.


Not sure about this but ….

Knicks fans have more arrogance in them than the fans of all other 29 teams combined

If there is a banner for arrogance you’ll got more of those by now than Celtics and Lakers championship banners :lol:


is there a banner for suck@ssness? the nets should def raise one, brutal celtics trade(how you root for them after how you got buttf*cked in that deal is a joke) you then get Kyrie/KD/Harden and do absolutely NOTHING and then blow it up, now you have Nic Claxton, :thumbsup: . This is how irrelevant the Nets are, if the knicks had done all this, the world would never let them live with it and this is how much nobody cares about the nets.
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Post#682 » by Laimbeer » Wed May 21, 2025 1:38 pm

Implied chance from bookies for the series -

Knicks 62%
Pacers 43%
(Bookies' slice 5%)
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Re: 2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacers 

Post#683 » by Pacers_Freak » Wed May 21, 2025 1:39 pm

My honest thoughts on tonight. I think the Pacers have been off too long and the Knicks are too good. I have a feeling it could get ugly. The Pacers need to find a way to steal a couple of these early and extend the series and hope the Knicks short rotation wears out with the pace as the series goes along.
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Re: 2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacers 

Post#684 » by duppyy » Wed May 21, 2025 1:41 pm

If KAT shows up I see knicks winning it, but that’s a big if.
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Re: 2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacer 

Post#685 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed May 21, 2025 1:48 pm

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ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
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Wouldn't suprise me one bit. The Knicks have the better player in each position.

:D
Not sure about this but …
Knicks fans have more arrogance in them than the fans of all other 29 teams combined

If there is a banner for arrogance you’ll got more of those by now than Celtics and Lakers championship banners :lol:


is there a banner for suck@ssness? the nets should def raise one, brutal celtics trade(how you root for them after how you got buttf*cked in that deal is a joke) you then get Kyrie/KD/Harden and do absolutely NOTHING and then blow it up, now you have Nic Claxton, :thumbsup: . This is how irrelevant the Nets are, if the knicks had done all this, the world would never let them live with it and this is how much nobody cares about the nets.


Nets got most cap space and picks in the league, we’re in good place. :D

Last quarter of a century Nets got two E conf championship banners Knicks got 0 , 2-0 try again :lol:

Finally I could listen how we suck from Lakers fans Celtics fans , they’d have a valid point , hell even Raptors fans or Denver fans would have a valid point , but Knicks ? :lol:

You’ve been dumpster fire for decades :lol: too many failures to name them all in one post :lol:

Once you got semi good won second round series and your fans acting like Warriors Dynasty :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pathetic
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Re: 2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacers 

Post#686 » by The4thHorseman » Wed May 21, 2025 1:55 pm

duppyy wrote:If KAT shows up I see knicks winning it, but that’s a big if.

Just needs to avoid silly, early fouls. It completely changes his approach to the game when he's trying not to get his 3rd with 8mins left in the 2nd quarter.
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Re: 2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacers 

Post#687 » by xBulletproof » Wed May 21, 2025 2:00 pm

Finally, it's that day.

I think Nesmith will guard Towns. Makes switching and everything easier, but we will see. I expect the Knicks will take game 1 after the Pacers haven't played for 9 days or what not. Just takes everyone out of the rhythm.

One thing I don't know if everyone has talked about is that this series is every other day. Even with travel. No real breaks. If the Pacers running causes any fatigue issues with their short bench, there is no room for rest. There are no 2 days off. That is in the Pacers favor.

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Re: 2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacer 

Post#688 » by LFGK » Wed May 21, 2025 2:15 pm

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LFGK wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
:D
Not sure about this but …
Knicks fans have more arrogance in them than the fans of all other 29 teams combined

If there is a banner for arrogance you’ll got more of those by now than Celtics and Lakers championship banners :lol:


is there a banner for suck@ssness? the nets should def raise one, brutal celtics trade(how you root for them after how you got buttf*cked in that deal is a joke) you then get Kyrie/KD/Harden and do absolutely NOTHING and then blow it up, now you have Nic Claxton, :thumbsup: . This is how irrelevant the Nets are, if the knicks had done all this, the world would never let them live with it and this is how much nobody cares about the nets.


Nets got most cap space and picks in the league, we’re in good place. :D

Last quarter of a century Nets got two E conf championship banners Knicks got 0 , 2-0 try again :lol:

Finally I could listen how we suck from Lakers fans Celtics fans , they’d have a valid point , hell even Raptors fans or Denver fans would have a valid point , but Knicks ? :lol:

You’ve been dumpster fire for decades :lol: too many failures to name them all in one post :lol:

Once you got semi good won second round series and your fans acting like Warriors Dynasty :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pathetic

who give a sh*t NOBODY wants to play there, nobody wants to come and play second fiddle to the Knicks and everyone clearly sees it wit the last "big 3" botch job. you can have all the picks in the mid 20's and all the cap space and nothing will come about it and doesn't matter who the "you suck" talk comes from knick fan or raptor fan or a wiz fan, YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A FCKING JOKE :lol:
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Post#689 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed May 21, 2025 2:24 pm

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LFGK wrote:
is there a banner for suck@ssness? the nets should def raise one, brutal celtics trade(how you root for them after how you got buttf*cked in that deal is a joke) you then get Kyrie/KD/Harden and do absolutely NOTHING and then blow it up, now you have Nic Claxton, :thumbsup: . This is how irrelevant the Nets are, if the knicks had done all this, the world would never let them live with it and this is how much nobody cares about the nets.


Nets got most cap space and picks in the league, we’re in good place. :D

Last quarter of a century Nets got two E conf championship banners Knicks got 0 , 2-0 try again :lol:

Finally I could listen how we suck from Lakers fans Celtics fans , they’d have a valid point , hell even Raptors fans or Denver fans would have a valid point , but Knicks ? :lol:

You’ve been dumpster fire for decades :lol: too many failures to name them all in one post :lol:

Once you got semi good won second round series and your fans acting like Warriors Dynasty :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pathetic

who give a sh*t NOBODY wants to play there, nobody wants to come and play second fiddle to the Knicks and everyone clearly sees it wit the last "big 3" botch job. you can have all the picks in the mid 20's and all the cap space and nothing will come about it and doesn't matter who the "you suck" talk comes from knick fan or raptor fan or a wiz fan, YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A FCKING JOKE :lol:


Once again childish arrogance :nod:
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Re: 2025 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: #3 New York Knicks vs #4 Indiana Pacers 

Post#690 » by Nuntius » Wed May 21, 2025 2:28 pm

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We just smoked the defending champs where NO ONE picked us to win. TF we supposed to be other than confident ?


Confident and arrogant are two different things.

Pacer fans are confident as well but you don't see any of us claiming that we'd beat you in 4/5. I understand that there were some Celtic fans who were obnoxious and disparaging towards the Knicks but that doesn't give you the right to do the same to others :wink:


I’m responding to people saying the pacers are going to win in 6.


So, you're responding to the minority of the forum? Because the Knicks are currently winning the poll in this thread.

TheKnicksFix wrote:My prediction is Knicks in 5. We need to be confident going into the matchup. That’s how we got here. We aren’t afraid to fail because we are prepared. It’s not being cocky nor arrogant if we know we can beat you in 5 when you played us with a lesser team last year and we took the pacers 7.

How tf does that make us arrogant?


For the same exact reason why the Celtics fans who thought that they'd beat you in 4 or 5 were arrogant.
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Post#691 » by LFGK » Wed May 21, 2025 2:34 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
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Nets got most cap space and picks in the league, we’re in good place. :D

Last quarter of a century Nets got two E conf championship banners Knicks got 0 , 2-0 try again :lol:

Finally I could listen how we suck from Lakers fans Celtics fans , they’d have a valid point , hell even Raptors fans or Denver fans would have a valid point , but Knicks ? :lol:

You’ve been dumpster fire for decades :lol: too many failures to name them all in one post :lol:

Once you got semi good won second round series and your fans acting like Warriors Dynasty :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pathetic

who give a sh*t NOBODY wants to play there, nobody wants to come and play second fiddle to the Knicks and everyone clearly sees it wit the last "big 3" botch job. you can have all the picks in the mid 20's and all the cap space and nothing will come about it and doesn't matter who the "you suck" talk comes from knick fan or raptor fan or a wiz fan, YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A FCKING JOKE :lol:


Once again childish arrogance :nod:

sure brother, make sure you got your haliburton jersey on today and the nuggets or thunder jersey ready in a few days. No talk of any Net Jersey , you know, the team you root for? since they are an absolute dumpster fire organization.
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Post#692 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed May 21, 2025 2:37 pm

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LFGK wrote:who give a sh*t NOBODY wants to play there, nobody wants to come and play second fiddle to the Knicks and everyone clearly sees it wit the last "big 3" botch job. you can have all the picks in the mid 20's and all the cap space and nothing will come about it and doesn't matter who the "you suck" talk comes from knick fan or raptor fan or a wiz fan, YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A FCKING JOKE :lol:


Once again childish arrogance :nod:

sure brother, make sure you got your haliburton jersey on today and the nuggets or thunder jersey ready in a few days. No talk of any Net Jersey , you know, the team you root for? since they are an absolute dumpster fire organization.


When you finally visit New York let me know ,I’ll gift you nice Claxton jersey :D
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Post#693 » by cgf » Wed May 21, 2025 2:37 pm

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No I’m not , but I like their underdog story , I saw their game when they advanced to premier league, and it’s the most amazing post game I ever saw in any sport , it’s just makes you feel attached to their fans , team , head coach

So since 2021 I watch their games and root for them so they not gonna get relegated again , this club and their fans doesn’t deserve another relegation in the near future

So in a way yes I can say I’m a Brentford fan :D


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Post#694 » by LFGK » Wed May 21, 2025 2:39 pm

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Once again childish arrogance :nod:

sure brother, make sure you got your haliburton jersey on today and the nuggets or thunder jersey ready in a few days. No talk of any Net Jersey , you know, the team you root for? since they are an absolute dumpster fire organization.


When you finally visit New York let me know ,I’ll gift you nice Claxton jersey :D


I work in NYC lol
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Post#695 » by HMFFL » Wed May 21, 2025 2:40 pm

Tom Thibodeau vs Rick Carlisle

Two of the greatest to ever do it.
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Post#696 » by Nuntius » Wed May 21, 2025 2:41 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:We're not the Bucks or Cavs, if we're going at Hali it's not going to be through mismatch hunting or isolation (Brunson being the exception), it'll be him chasing Mikal around off screens, Mikal leaking out in transition, quick post ups off duck ins, DHOs and if he's on Hart he has to worry about getting back in transition and most importantly stopping Hart from putting pressure on the boards.


So, you'll make him work. You should indeed do that. We'll do the same to Brunson while also employing our full-court press.

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Whether they're sieves or not isn't really the point, we have more ways to hide Brunson than you do with Haliburton.


Alright then. Talk to me about the ways you'll hide Brunson and I'll tell you how we can attack him in these circumstances.

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Also, we did play a series last year, and despite the injuries we controlled the pace. This year you'll have to contend with this on the glass as well -

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Mitchell can definitely impact the boards a ton, no argument here. But the double big lineup could also struggle to defend our speed and end up being played off the court. We'll see how it goes.

I will say this: If the Knicks approach this series with the mindset that we are the same team we were last year then it won't bode well for them. We are a much, much better team than we were last year. Much more experienced too. I'll say it again, the series we played against the Nova Knicks last year was huge for us. The toughness of that team rubbed off on us and we became a better team due to that.

For what is worth, I do trust Thibs and this Knicks squad to be ready for us and not fall for the trap that some of your fans are falling for.


Celtics thought they could switch and attack Brunson in the last series, we allowed him to guard straight up, and guess what? He held his own.

Meanwhile no one on the pacers can guard Brunson on the other end.


Right, the Celtics tried to attack Brunson in isolation. We don't care about Isos. On either end of the floor.

How's Brunson's screen navigation? How's he in scram switching? How well does he close out on shooters? There are a lot of ways to attack someone that don't involve isolations.
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Post#697 » by ryan in Maine » Wed May 21, 2025 2:46 pm

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Confident and arrogant are two different things.

Pacer fans are confident as well but you don't see any of us claiming that we'd beat you in 4/5. I understand that there were some Celtic fans who were obnoxious and disparaging towards the Knicks but that doesn't give you the right to do the same to others :wink:


I’m responding to people saying the pacers are going to win in 6.


So, you're responding to the minority of the forum? Because the Knicks are currently winning the poll in this thread.

TheKnicksFix wrote:My prediction is Knicks in 5. We need to be confident going into the matchup. That’s how we got here. We aren’t afraid to fail because we are prepared. It’s not being cocky nor arrogant if we know we can beat you in 5 when you played us with a lesser team last year and we took the pacers 7.

How tf does that make us arrogant?


For the same exact reason why the Celtics fans who thought that they'd beat you in 4 or 5 were arrogant.

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Post#698 » by cgf » Wed May 21, 2025 2:48 pm

Feeling excited, hopefully we can put our foot on their throats and finish this before they get the chance to wear us down. If this is a long series I worry about fatigue.
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Post#699 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed May 21, 2025 2:52 pm

cgf wrote:Feeling excited, hopefully we can put our foot on their throats and finish this before they get the chance to wear us down. If this is a long series I worry about fatigue.


This will be extremely long series

Like Pacers in 5 :lol:
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Post#700 » by cgf » Wed May 21, 2025 2:53 pm

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So, you'll make him work. You should indeed do that. We'll do the same to Brunson while also employing our full-court press.



Alright then. Talk to me about the ways you'll hide Brunson and I'll tell you how we can attack him in these circumstances.



Mitchell can definitely impact the boards a ton, no argument here. But the double big lineup could also struggle to defend our speed and end up being played off the court. We'll see how it goes.

I will say this: If the Knicks approach this series with the mindset that we are the same team we were last year then it won't bode well for them. We are a much, much better team than we were last year. Much more experienced too. I'll say it again, the series we played against the Nova Knicks last year was huge for us. The toughness of that team rubbed off on us and we became a better team due to that.

For what is worth, I do trust Thibs and this Knicks squad to be ready for us and not fall for the trap that some of your fans are falling for.


Celtics thought they could switch and attack Brunson in the last series, we allowed him to guard straight up, and guess what? He held his own.

Meanwhile no one on the pacers can guard Brunson on the other end.


Right, the Celtics tried to attack Brunson in isolation. We don't care about Isos. On either end of the floor.

How's Brunson's screen navigation? How's he in scram switching? How well does he close out on shooters? There are a lot of ways to attack someone that don't involve isolations.


Depends on his effort, if he keeps expending the energy defensively that he has been since the pistons series then Jalen’s actually better as an offball guy.

Towns on the other hand is vulnerable to making bad reads and getting confused…which is why I think the double bigs could be so important in this series unless towns going off just lets us out score you. Mitch is one of the best pnr defenders around and is great at cleaning up mistakes made in front of him. So, as well as slowing down your transition game, those lineups should also be our best bet to stop you in the half court.
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