Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

CrazyKnicks · Post #701 » by **CrazyKnicks** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:38 am

Nate505 wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote:Kendrick Perkins: "Metta World Peace is a good dude so I know he wouldn't try to hurt nobody."

NBA players will stick up for their own no matter what. I was disgusted by Al Jefferson when he said (paraphrasing) that that "Delonte West is a good guy" after his thing with Hayward, and this is 1,000x worse.

The more Perkins opens his mouth, the more stupid he sounds. Artest won't "hurt anybody"? :lol:

Guess he missed out on the Palace brawl.

sfernald · Post #702 » by **sfernald** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:40 am

K1NG wrote:
ikidunot wrote:If James Harden and OKC can forgive Metta, it baffles me that everyone else is in such an uproar about it. The ejection was enough punishment.

I see your username, but are you kidding me?

Somebody is going to make this their SIG.

Nate505 · Post #703 » by **Nate505** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:40 am

YFZblu wrote:
Black Feet wrote:far from it, and no he hasn't been suspended 15 times some of those are only fines. I could pull up a big list of fines and suspensions for a lot of players. People need to stop overreacting.

ok, 12 suspensions

But one of those was from the Pacers, so the League has only suspended the guy a mere 11 times! Come on, what player in this league hasn't been suspended 11 times!

Kobe2ndFiddle · Post #704 » by **Kobe2ndFiddle** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:40 am

ikidunot wrote:If James Harden and OKC can forgive Metta, it baffles me that everyone else is in such an uproar about it. The ejection was enough punishment.

tell me about.

I still think he should be suspended 5-10 games though, after that you're just overreacting. lol@ life time ban suggestions.

There have been many in the media saying on record that they don not believe that Ron would do it on purpose, even with his history. That speaks volumes about Artest's heart and where he stands with his peers.

The reality of the situation is that it does not matter if he intended to strike him like that or not, the elbow should not have been thrown in the first place, and since he connected, a harsh punishment is in store.

BUT life time ban ? pssshh yeah right.

DFan · Post #705 » by **DFan** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:40 am

Based on his past history (see the Piston-Pacer brawl) I would not be a bit surprised if Stern bans him from the NBA and I would support him if he did.

And some of you Laker fans making excuses for what Ron Ron did--------> :nonono:

-[Clippers]- · Post #706 » by **-[Clippers]-** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:41 am

Wooderson wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote:Something I think most people are missing here is that Artest is a guy who usually only gets in trouble for escalating things when someone acts aggressively towards him. He's not a guy who just randomly goes after defenseless players.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkjQNz1gt0g[/youtube]

http://fanshots.com/video/ron-artest-cl ... -vs-knicks

MastaStrategist · Post #707 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 am

Wooderson wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote:Something I think most people are missing here is that Artest is a guy who usually only gets in trouble for escalating things when someone acts aggressively towards him. He's not a guy who just randomly goes after defenseless players.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkjQNz1gt0g[/youtube]

Are you serious? I still can't believe people cite that as a viscous clothesline.

THIS is a real clothesline. Not someone reaching for the ball and going a little higher than they meant to. The dude is 5'9. MWP is 6'7. He's gonna reach high if he's not careful.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iTtjMTUkw[/youtube]

theokie · Post #708 » by **theokie** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 am

I watched the video again.

Harden CLEARLY headbutted Artest right in the elbow. Harden should be suspended for that

Post #709 » by **Doctor MJ** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:45 am

MastaStrategist wrote:Seems to be 2 different views on MWP's character here. Either he is a menace to the league, or he is a guy who is clueless in a lot of ways but generally sincere when he knows he made a mistake.

And if I believe both?

I like him, I think he's sincere, but it's not right to continue to subject other players to his poor impulse control.

Black Feet · Post #710 » by **Black Feet** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:45 am

INKtastic wrote:
Black Feet wrote:far from it, and no he hasn't been suspended 15 times some of those are only fines. I could pull up a big list of fines and suspensions for a lot of players. People need to stop overreacting.

Not counting the brawl, he's been suspended 11 times for a total of 23 games. Here's the link that goes back through 1994, find me another player who's been suspended 12 times

http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/fines.html

Most of those suspensions are irrelevant, we have his going into the stands in Detroit and then hitting Barrea last year. People are acting like he regularly throws elbows to the dome.

Striders · Post #711 » by **Striders** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:45 am

MastaStrategist wrote: Are you serious? I still can't believe people cite that as a viscous clothesline.

THIS is a real clothesline. Not someone reaching for the ball and going a little higher than they meant to.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5fTDxDVLK0[/youtube]

CerambyX · Post #712 » by **CerambyX** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:46 am

I would agree if he was suspended till the end of the season + all the play-offs. Not over the top but still sending a message to MWP. Lifetime ban sounds a bit too harsh and Stern would't have the balls to do it anyway.

nyczlegacy · Post #713 » by **nyczlegacy** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:46 am

where do u draw the line.. what happens the next time when he actually kills someone on the court?

theokie · Post #714 » by **theokie** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:47 am

MastaStrategist wrote:
Wooderson wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote:Something I think most people are missing here is that Artest is a guy who usually only gets in trouble for escalating things when someone acts aggressively towards him. He's not a guy who just randomly goes after defenseless players.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkjQNz1gt0g[/youtube]

Are you serious? I still can't believe people cite that as a viscous clothesline.

THIS is a real clothesline. Not someone reaching for the ball and going a little higher than they meant to. The dude is 5'9. MWP is 6'7. He's gonna reach high if he's not careful.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iTtjMTUkw[/youtube]

Striders wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote: Are you serious? I still can't believe people cite that as a viscous clothesline.

THIS is a real clothesline. Not someone reaching for the ball and going a little higher than they meant to.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5fTDxDVLK0[/youtube]

Those don't compare

Artest on Harden was during A DEAD BALL!!! At least those other plays there can be some excuse of trying to play defense.

Post #715 » by **Doctor MJ** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:47 am

MastaStrategist wrote:Something I think most people are missing here is that Artest is a guy who usually only gets in trouble for escalating things when someone acts aggressively towards him. He's not a guy who just randomly goes after defenseless players.

People who are not defenseless don't let themselves get hit like that. Harden had no idea that he was about to get clocked.

theokie · Post #716 » by **theokie** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:48 am

Black Feet wrote:
INKtastic wrote:
Black Feet wrote:far from it, and no he hasn't been suspended 15 times some of those are only fines. I could pull up a big list of fines and suspensions for a lot of players. People need to stop overreacting.

Not counting the brawl, he's been suspended 11 times for a total of 23 games. Here's the link that goes back through 1994, find me another player who's been suspended 12 times

http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/fines.html

Most of those suspensions are irrelevant, we have his going into the stands in Detroit and then hitting Barrea last year. People are acting like he regularly throws elbows to the dome.

So how many more chances should the guy get?

MastaStrategist · Post #717 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:49 am

Striders wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote: Are you serious? I still can't believe people cite that as a viscous clothesline.

THIS is a real clothesline. Not someone reaching for the ball and going a little higher than they meant to.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5fTDxDVLK0[/youtube]

Flagrant Foul 1 for a reason. He didn't go try to knock a guy out. Like I said in my previous post.

Jase · Post #718 » by **Jase** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:51 am

I don't see how anyone can objectively downplay this...

ikidunot · Post #719 » by **ikidunot** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:51 am

K1NG wrote:
ikidunot wrote:If James Harden and OKC can forgive Metta, it baffles me that everyone else is in such an uproar about it. The ejection was enough punishment.

I see your username, but are you kidding me?

No, Kevin Love got TWO games for stepping on someone's face. TWO.

MastaStrategist · Post #720 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:51 am

Doctor MJ wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote:Something I think most people are missing here is that Artest is a guy who usually only gets in trouble for escalating things when someone acts aggressively towards him. He's not a guy who just randomly goes after defenseless players.

People who are not defenseless don't let themselves get hit like that. Harden had no idea that he was about to get clocked.

You're arguing a point I'm not making. You may think he went after him to knock him out, I certainly don't.