Rookie Discussion Thread

[tsmith]

so this is about your guy not getting enough props on the message board? got it.

That's exactly that !

Some others posters tells him he's not a rookie anymore while being one of the youngest player in the NBA (so great potential nonetheless) but he doesn't care, he wants him to be a rookie.

Isn't this thread essentially about discussing the new talent in the league that we haven't gotten a chance to see play extensively yet? Nerlens Noel was discussed in the rookie thread last year and no1 said anything. Now because Randle played 14 minutes of the 1st game of last season we shouldnt discuss him? Why do you care if Randle is talked about in this thread? Even if he did see the floor for a matter of minutes last year, this is the first year people are actually watching him play and are able to talk about what they see in his game, which they certainly couldnt do last year.

Randle, by NBA rules isnt a rookie. Noel was. That's the difference

[cyclix]

Josh Richardson: 6-10 FG | 4-5 3 PT | 17 PTS | 4 TRB | 3 BLK | 2 STL | 2 AST | +16
Justise Winslow: 8-13 FG | 20 PTS | 3 TRB | 2 STL | +12

[GimmeDat]

Good to see Winslow putting some points on the board. His ceiling's going to be determined by how his scoring progresses, particularly that jumper.

[Klomp]

Towns vs. Booker started a few minutes ago

[Westbreezy]

Good to see Mudiay playing well

[runlikehell]

I haven't seen anyone get so many chase down blocks like Josh Richardson has been doing lately since Lebron a few years ago. He single handedly stops so many fastbreaks.

On offense he was shooting 60% from 3 since the all star break and shot 4/5 tonight. He's been huge.

[QUIZ]

Josh Richardson: 6-10 FG | 4-5 3 PT | 17 PTS | 4 TRB | 3 BLK | 2 STL | 2 AST | +16
Justise Winslow: 8-13 FG | 20 PTS | 3 TRB | 2 STL | +12

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[cyclix]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/status/709582459130798080[/tweet]

[Revived]

Towns vs. Booker started a few minutes ago

Good game. 17 & 10 for Towns and 17 & 6 for Booker.

Wish you guys could have pulled it off at the end there.

[TheZachAttack]

Towns is essentially tied for 3rd in the NBA for PPG among Centers. His 17.7 PPG is behind only Vuvecic 17.8, Lopez 20.8 and Cousins 27.4. Towns FG% is 54.5% and he does it on only 13.6 shots. Cousins numbers are 21 shots/45%. Lopez 16 shots/51.5%. Vucevic 16.1/49.7%.

Add in PF's and make it all big men, Towns is essentially tied at 6th with Vuvecic and Aldridge at 17.7ish PPG, but Towns scores a lot more effeciently.

Towns is 8th in the NBA in FG%. 7th among Centers.

Towns is 9th in the NBA in Rebounds, 8th among Centers, only .01 behind Anthony Davis.

Towns is 10th in the NBA in Blocks, 7th among Centers.

Towns is 4th among Centers in Double Doubles with 38 behind only Drummond's 55 and Cousins + Deandre tied at 40. He's 6th in the league. Russ has 45 and Wall has 39.

Towns ranks 4th for Centers in FT% at 81.7%, 9th in the NBA for big men.

Among players ESPN qualifies as Centers Towns is 3rd in PPG, 8th in rbds, 7th in blocks, 4th in double doubles, 7th in FG% and 4th in FT%.


No question this kid is among the conversation among the games best at the Center position already.

[Westbreezy]

Towns is essentially tied for 3rd in the NBA for PPG among Centers. His 17.7 PPG is behind only Vuvecic 17.8, Lopez 20.8 and Cousins 27.4. Towns FG% is 54.5% and he does it on only 13.6 shots. Cousins numbers are 21 shots/45%. Lopez 16 shots/51.5%. Vucevic 16.1/49.7%.

Add in PF's and make it all big men, Towns is essentially tied at 6th with Vuvecic and Aldridge at 17.7ish PPG, but Towns scores a lot more effeciently.

Towns is 8th in the NBA in FG%. 7th among Centers.

Towns is 9th in the NBA in Rebounds, 8th among Centers, only .01 behind Anthony Davis.

Towns is 10th in the NBA in Blocks, 7th among Centers.

Towns is 4th among Centers in Double Doubles with 38 behind only Drummond's 55 and Cousins + Deandre tied at 40. He's 6th in the league. Russ has 45 and Wall has 39.

Towns ranks 4th for Centers in FT% at 81.7%, 9th in the NBA for big men.

Among players ESPN qualifies as Centers Towns is 3rd in PPG, 8th in rbds, 7th in blocks, 4th in double doubles, 7th in FG% and 4th in FT%.


No question this kid is among the conversation among the games best at the Center position already.

Still can't believe how good he is. I'm pretty sure not a SINGLE pre-draft expectation/article/prediction on him had him being this good, this soon. He probably got like 20% as much hype as Wiggins got despite delivering exponentially better production and potential.

Hell, on draftnet for example he got an Andrew Bogut/Vlade Divac career comparison.

Also, read this article on Okafor/Towns to see what most informed experts thought about Towns before the draft:
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/04/02/jahlil-okafor-karl-anthony-towns-nba-draft-duke-kentucky

[franckyvinvin12]

please elaborate

If he were drafted in 2015 we'd be talking about him being a very promising rookie and one of the standouts. Instead I had a mod questioning why I was even giving Randle updates in this thread, not that it stopped me. Thats a pretty large swing to go from intriguing to forgotten.

Didn't see the conversation between you and the mod, but it's because he's technically not a rookie. I like Randle and view him essentially as a rookie (him playing 14 minutes last year has absolutely no negative bearing on his potential, IMO), and I would question anyone's reasoning for thinking his future is less promising as a 14 minute sophomore.

For the purpose of this thread, might as well keep giving updates. The thread has been dominated by KP, KAT, Okafor, Russ, and Booker - it's nice getting some new blood.

Yeah he's still promising even though he's not a rookie, and I'm not sure I've seen anyone complain about having updates about Randle in this thread. What people are reacting about is people complaining about the fact that the NBA doesn't recognize Randle as a rookie, and frankly nobody cares and I'm sure Randle doesn't care either. And it would be stupid to change rules for something nobody cares about.

[Klomp]

Still can't believe how good he is. I'm pretty sure not a SINGLE pre-draft expectation/article/prediction on him had him being this good, this soon. He probably got like 20% as much hype as Wiggins got despite delivering exponentially better production and potential.

Hell, on draftnet for example he got an Andrew Bogut/Vlade Divac career comparison.

Even on the Wolves board before the season, a bunch of people (myself included) were basically predicting Horford-like rookie numbers of 10/10. Rebounding is there, but shattering the offensive numbers.

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[JMac1]

Still can't believe how good he is. I'm pretty sure not a SINGLE pre-draft expectation/article/prediction on him had him being this good, this soon. He probably got like 20% as much hype as Wiggins got despite delivering exponentially better production and potential.

Hell, on draftnet for example he got an Andrew Bogut/Vlade Divac career comparison.

Even on the Wolves board before the season, a bunch of people (myself included) were basically predicting Horford-like rookie numbers of 10/10. Rebounding is there, but shattering the offensive numbers.

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He should have had more touches last night! But Lavine and Wiggins are so good, I guess they need their touches as well; next game please don't trap Booker so much and let Telly shoot, your team must have missed the memo, he is second (to Curry) in the league in threes made per 48.

[JMac1]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/status/709582459130798080[/tweet]

That's what happened to Bookers 3pt shot!?!

[KokoKaizer]

so this is about your guy not getting enough props on the message board? got it.

That's exactly that !

Some others posters tells him he's not a rookie anymore while being one of the youngest player in the NBA (so great potential nonetheless) but he doesn't care, he wants him to be a rookie.

Isn't this thread essentially about discussing the new talent in the league that we haven't gotten a chance to see play extensively yet? Nerlens Noel was discussed in the rookie thread last year and no1 said anything. Now because Randle played 14 minutes of the 1st game of last season we shouldnt discuss him? Why do you care if Randle is talked about in this thread? Even if he did see the floor for a matter of minutes last year, this is the first year people are actually watching him play and are able to talk about what they see in his game, which they certainly couldnt do last year.

Because this is the ROOKIE Discussion Thread. He's NOT a rookie.

If you want to talk to him feel free to create a thread about him !

Now if you want to discuss how Hezonja is a bust or Russel is the second coming of Jesus feel free to do it here

[LALifer49]

That's exactly that !

Some others posters tells him he's not a rookie anymore while being one of the youngest player in the NBA (so great potential nonetheless) but he doesn't care, he wants him to be a rookie.

Isn't this thread essentially about discussing the new talent in the league that we haven't gotten a chance to see play extensively yet? Nerlens Noel was discussed in the rookie thread last year and no1 said anything. Now because Randle played 14 minutes of the 1st game of last season we shouldnt discuss him? Why do you care if Randle is talked about in this thread? Even if he did see the floor for a matter of minutes last year, this is the first year people are actually watching him play and are able to talk about what they see in his game, which they certainly couldnt do last year.

Because this is the ROOKIE Discussion Thread. He's NOT a rookie.

If you want to talk to him feel free to create a thread about him !

Now if you want to discuss how Hezonja is a bust or Russel is the second coming of Jesus feel free to do it here

Well I never said either of those things....but they're both true

[KokoKaizer]

Isn't this thread essentially about discussing the new talent in the league that we haven't gotten a chance to see play extensively yet? Nerlens Noel was discussed in the rookie thread last year and no1 said anything. Now because Randle played 14 minutes of the 1st game of last season we shouldnt discuss him? Why do you care if Randle is talked about in this thread? Even if he did see the floor for a matter of minutes last year, this is the first year people are actually watching him play and are able to talk about what they see in his game, which they certainly couldnt do last year.

Because this is the ROOKIE Discussion Thread. He's NOT a rookie.

If you want to talk to him feel free to create a thread about him !

Now if you want to discuss how Hezonja is a bust or Russel is the second coming of Jesus feel free to do it here

Well I never said either of those things....but they're both true

I Knew it

[Domejandro]

Last night was Towns' third worst game of the season, his shots just weren't falling, unfortunately. Boston fans are rejoicing though, haha.

[Northern hoops]

Last night was Towns' third worst game of the season, his shots just weren't falling, unfortunately. Boston fans are rejoicing though, haha.

That's simply untrue. Maybe his third worst game since the all star break, but he basically put up his average last night, despite being slightly below his average fg %. Very average game for KAT, season wise