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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#701 » by Spintown » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:06 pm

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Klay is on his last year too

This poster seriously misread the situation :lol:


good one maybe you should call up Myers for an assistant GM position and propose this deal that would save them millions.


All we'd need is for Klay to want out of a championship team where he's likely getting paid top dollar. Though I'm sure I wouldnt be the only one to green light it, so not sure what would make my resume stand out. Maybe taping it inside a box of donuts? And then at the bottom of the box I leave this trade offer?

Could work


Make sure to highlight the part of Covington being the #1 RPM for SF and #1 DRPM in the league. That outta make it a done deal.
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#702 » by Spens1 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:07 pm

Traderwest wrote:Leverage:

Spurs are not in a rush, trade him in December?

Lakers are in a rush, need him as soon as possible


why are we in a rush? we can max out Lebron and P.G. right now and still match Randle and then do the trade halfway through the season at deadline for a discount.
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#703 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:10 pm

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LAKESHOW wrote:Ahahaha sixers offering saric. Boston offering peanuts. I knew it! No one else is giving up stuff for Kawhi. Spurs, you can take Ball, Deng and Randle! You don't like it? Well i got 2 words for ya....

If that's the best offer we will get, then we simply keep him.



Good, since the price is going to be that high for a player who was/is....

1. Injured and has not played in over 8 months
2. Disgruntled
3. Asked to be traded
4. Mentioned a preferred destination and may not commit to play elsewhere
5. His camp has power over his decision making

I'll rather sign Bron/PG Randle to an extension and keep the young core intact.


I'm a big LeBron fan but I consider a healthy Kawhi as the only player in the NBA i'd take over him at this point.

Lakers should take LeBron and Leonard and fill around that. PG13 is not on the level of those two. I'd take LeBron and wait for Kawhi coming in 2019
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#704 » by Jedi32 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:28 pm

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Kobe fans are also the biggest detractors of LBJ going to LA. I honestly think a good portion of them may commit mass suicide if LeBron goes to LA. Kobe stans are loyal cultists and their hate is deep.


This.

I really don't know how this is going to work out. LA/Kobe fans have absolutely despised LeBron for a decade+ now. And it's no ordinary hate. LA/Kobe fans root harder for LeBron's opponents than they even root for LA. There's not much they aren't willing to do if it's going to result in LeBron being diminished in any way. They are the only fanbase I know of that never, ever criticizes what KD did. Not because they give a crap about KD, but because LeBron losing is all they care about. When GS clinched the title a few weeks ago, this board was filled with LA/Kobe fans gushing endlessly about KD (and it's like that no matter where you go).

I just don't see how they can go from that to ever actually rooting for LeBron. LeBron is the guy who never let Kobe have his day in the late 00's to eventually surpassing him in the 10's. The pain of that won't magically go away simply because LeBron donned a Laker jersey. Nope, I still see the same people continuing to despise LeBron. And for now, I'm sure they're praying he doesn't end up a Laker.

Lol. Dude you have way to much time on your hands. I've always wondered if people really believe this nonsense.
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#705 » by ButCanMarkDunk » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:41 pm

KL's value is at its peak right now. If they wait til the trade deadline, they will get peanuts for him.

All the pressure is on SAS.
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#706 » by FNQ » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:12 am

ButCanMarkDunk wrote:KL's value is at its peak right now. If they wait til the trade deadline, they will get peanuts for him.

All the pressure is on SAS.


To make a deal in the offseason, not necessarily on the timeline of a team that is waiting on LeBron. Or has already acquired LeBron.

With 3 teams bidding and all of them having decent to prominent assets, I'd say the Spurs are fine if that's the "pressure"
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#707 » by BVB24 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:56 am

Got this from Spurstalk. Lol Jesus Christ we’re gonna suck if this happens


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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#708 » by ButCanMarkDunk » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:58 am

I think that is Lakers damage control for BI, but its going to be the inverse of that.

BI + picks + possibly another core youngster for KL in a 3 or 4 team trade.
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#709 » by Milenkovic » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:31 am

Now Uncle Dennis is leaking that Kawhi is unhappy playing in SAS and wants to move. So so far, the reasons have been ;

-Roster Mismanagement
-Concern about inadequate shoe deal for a player who hates speaking & doesn't market himself.
-Wants to play in LA, despite despising talking to the media
-Teammates not supporting him in the media, despite the fact that TP would be either retiring or not having an on court role anymore & is irrelevant at this point.
-Demanding a trade to LA, then the next day leaking that Kawhi is 100% healthy.
-Saying Kawhi is close after his 2nd stint in NY, then he's ruled out for the season.
-Not able to have fun & be himself.

What a circus
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#710 » by zimpy27 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:41 am

Spurs get: Bender, T. Chandler, Ingram, Wagner
Spurs get a haul of Spurs-like players, have their Cs in Gasol and Tyson, they will trade Aldridge to rebuild.

Lakers get: Kawhi, Troy Daniels
Lakers keep Hart and Kuzma. LeBron joins, they get PG13 or a C.

Phoenix get: Lonzo, Deng
Phoenix complete young starting team of future. Lonzo, Booker, Bridges, Jackson, Ayton
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#711 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:01 am

ButCanMarkDunk wrote:I think that is Lakers damage control for BI, but its going to be the inverse of that.

BI + picks + possibly another core youngster for KL in a 3 or 4 team trade.


There is no damage here to control for the Lakers. They are in the drivers seat as the Spurs don’t have many options other than wait and do nothing.

Lakers only have to beat the next best offer. As long as Boston and Philly hold out all their main assets, Lakers should not be including theirs. That means hold Ingram out till another team ups the stakes.

Woj right now is reporting Spurs sources trying to do anything possible to create a bidding war for Kawhi. Which is in their best interest.

But with Kawhi letting it be known he will only resign in LA, and LeBron saying today not to believe he is coming if LAL trades for Kawhi, and not to think he won’t if they don’t. Well that doesn’t leave the Spurs with any leverage.

Lakers just need a decent offer without Ingram in it and challenge the Spurs to go beat it. Call their bluff as they really don’t have a many options at this point.
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#712 » by bigbreakfast » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:01 am

ButCanMarkDunk wrote:KL's value is at its peak right now. If they wait til the trade deadline, they will get peanuts for him.

All the pressure is on SAS.


that's just not true. the lakers are working very hard to get something done because they're under a ton pressure to not be the FO that lets LBJ/Kawhi slip through their fingers. they have prepared for this for a couple years, Magic was brought in to get big name players, the fans want and expect LBJ in a Lakers uniform. The Lakers FO knows this is their best guaranteed shot to land Kawhi and LBJ.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23938913/zach-lowe-nba-free-agency-preview-lebron-james-paul-george-kawhi-leonard

"Lakers to trade for Kawhi Leonard ahead of free agency as a means of cinching LeBron James. The Lakers stared down a similar situation a year ago with Paul George, opted to sit tight and must feel nerves reading chatter -- chatter I'd consider at least fairly credible -- that George is leaning toward staying in Oklahoma City.

Sources at several teams confirmed tidbits in those stories that the Lakers are reaching out across the league in search of an extra first-round pick, indicating they would take on some unwanted future salary to snare it -- a fascinating twist, given L.A.'s need to hoard cap space. That alone indicates the Lakers are at least a little worried and interested in nabbing Leonard now. If the Lakers build a super-ish team, their own future picks over the next three or four seasons lose value; they will presumably fall in the 20s. Thus the search for others.

The subtext of those reports might be that the Lakers view themselves in a race against the clock with LeBron's deadline to opt in on his $35.6 million deal with Cleveland at 11:59 p.m. Friday. If LeBron opts in, his path to the Lakers becomes more complicated, with more varied competition. And as Windhorst has reported, everyone around this situation is under the impression that LeBron wants to make his decision quickly.

To be clear, the opt-in route can still work for the Lakers. They'd just have to trade for LeBron, which would deplete their Leonard trade treasure chest."
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#713 » by woosah » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:53 am

bigbreakfast wrote:
ButCanMarkDunk wrote:KL's value is at its peak right now. If they wait til the trade deadline, they will get peanuts for him.

All the pressure is on SAS.


that's just not true. the lakers are working very hard to get something done because they're under a ton pressure to not be the FO that lets LBJ/Kawhi slip through their fingers. they have prepared for this for a couple years, Magic was brought in to get big name players, the fans want and expect LBJ in a Lakers uniform. The Lakers FO knows this is their best guaranteed shot to land Kawhi and LBJ.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23938913/zach-lowe-nba-free-agency-preview-lebron-james-paul-george-kawhi-leonard

"Lakers to trade for Kawhi Leonard ahead of free agency as a means of cinching LeBron James. The Lakers stared down a similar situation a year ago with Paul George, opted to sit tight and must feel nerves reading chatter -- chatter I'd consider at least fairly credible -- that George is leaning toward staying in Oklahoma City.

Sources at several teams confirmed tidbits in those stories that the Lakers are reaching out across the league in search of an extra first-round pick, indicating they would take on some unwanted future salary to snare it -- a fascinating twist, given L.A.'s need to hoard cap space. That alone indicates the Lakers are at least a little worried and interested in nabbing Leonard now. If the Lakers build a super-ish team, their own future picks over the next three or four seasons lose value; they will presumably fall in the 20s. Thus the search for others.

The subtext of those reports might be that the Lakers view themselves in a race against the clock with LeBron's deadline to opt in on his $35.6 million deal with Cleveland at 11:59 p.m. Friday. If LeBron opts in, his path to the Lakers becomes more complicated, with more varied competition. And as Windhorst has reported, everyone around this situation is under the impression that LeBron wants to make his decision quickly.

To be clear, the opt-in route can still work for the Lakers. They'd just have to trade for LeBron, which would deplete their Leonard trade treasure chest."

I don't see how the opt in works for LA. A S&T hard caps them and if they think they are getting LBJ, Kawhi and PG how will they keep everybody under the 127mil or whatever it is?
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#714 » by bigbreakfast » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:16 am

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ButCanMarkDunk wrote:KL's value is at its peak right now. If they wait til the trade deadline, they will get peanuts for him.

All the pressure is on SAS.


that's just not true. the lakers are working very hard to get something done because they're under a ton pressure to not be the FO that lets LBJ/Kawhi slip through their fingers. they have prepared for this for a couple years, Magic was brought in to get big name players, the fans want and expect LBJ in a Lakers uniform. The Lakers FO knows this is their best guaranteed shot to land Kawhi and LBJ.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23938913/zach-lowe-nba-free-agency-preview-lebron-james-paul-george-kawhi-leonard

"Lakers to trade for Kawhi Leonard ahead of free agency as a means of cinching LeBron James. The Lakers stared down a similar situation a year ago with Paul George, opted to sit tight and must feel nerves reading chatter -- chatter I'd consider at least fairly credible -- that George is leaning toward staying in Oklahoma City.

Sources at several teams confirmed tidbits in those stories that the Lakers are reaching out across the league in search of an extra first-round pick, indicating they would take on some unwanted future salary to snare it -- a fascinating twist, given L.A.'s need to hoard cap space. That alone indicates the Lakers are at least a little worried and interested in nabbing Leonard now. If the Lakers build a super-ish team, their own future picks over the next three or four seasons lose value; they will presumably fall in the 20s. Thus the search for others.

The subtext of those reports might be that the Lakers view themselves in a race against the clock with LeBron's deadline to opt in on his $35.6 million deal with Cleveland at 11:59 p.m. Friday. If LeBron opts in, his path to the Lakers becomes more complicated, with more varied competition. And as Windhorst has reported, everyone around this situation is under the impression that LeBron wants to make his decision quickly.

To be clear, the opt-in route can still work for the Lakers. They'd just have to trade for LeBron, which would deplete their Leonard trade treasure chest."

I don't see how the opt in works for LA. A S&T hard caps them and if they think they are getting LBJ, Kawhi and PG how will they keep everybody under the 127mil or whatever it is?


I think there's a ton of moving pieces and what ifs... I mean a season ago PG13 was bound for LA and now he's more 50/50... same can be said for Kawhi and LBJ. It all means there's a ton of pressure on the Lakers to make a move now. The Spurs have very little leverage against the other teams in the league but the unique situation the Lakers find themselves in gives the Spurs negotiating power.
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#715 » by John Murdoch » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:39 am

End the madness

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Post#716 » by YamiRain » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:43 am

Lebron better be on call
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Re: Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers 

Post#717 » by JellosJigglin » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:50 am

Strike 1: mysterious injury

Strike 2: might not re-sign with the Lakers

Strike 3: not happy about playing with Lebron

Just let it go. Way too much risk associated with this guy, and giving up long term, young assets on cost controlled contracts would set the franchise back. This is another Dwight situation. He will walk. Do not want.
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Post#718 » by Ballings7 » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:52 am

John Murdoch wrote:End the madness

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Post#719 » by wfiles » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:54 am

it will happen soon.
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Post#720 » by John Murdoch » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:55 am

JellosJigglin wrote:Strike 1: mysterious injury

Strike 2: might not re-sign with the Lakers

Strike 3: not happy about playing with Lebron

Just let it go. Way too much risk associated with this guy, and giving up long term, young assets on cost controlled contracts would set the franchise back. This is another Dwight situation. He will walk. Do not want.
1 is valid but 2 and 3 are speculation and likely paranioa

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