Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II)

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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#701 » by HotelVitale » Sun Jun 5, 2022 12:58 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote: They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =
Wtf are you smoking and how can I get some of it? The KD Warriors are one of the most stacked teams in history. The Raptors got lucky that 2 of their 3 best players got injured, or that series would have been over in 5.


Klay missed 1game, and half a quarter
GSW got to the finals without KD
We were up 3-1
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I mean, I was happy for the Raptors at the time and think they were a really good team but these reasons are patently not able to desmonstrate that they could beat the full strength Warriors.
-Cool but their best player also missed the whole series; that would be like Kawhi not playing at all and Lowry missing a big chunk and playing hobbled the whole series. That's not a very good team.
-No idea why that's relevant--KD was healthy until late in the semis, but more importantly why is it a slam dunk point for you that the Warriors were able to beat the Dame-CJ Blazers in the CF? The Raptors also likely would've been able to do that, so congrats there, every finals team of the last 20 years can say the same
-You were up 3-1 without their best player, and with their 3rd best player missing time and playing injured. That's the whole premise of the argument here.
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Post#702 » by QingJames » Sun Jun 5, 2022 6:03 pm

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In the Raptors series Klay was also gone and the 2019 Warriors bench was the weakest bench they have ever had in the finals.
The current Warriors team beats the 2019 Raptors.


They absolutely do not beat the 2019 raptors. I don't think any version of the GSW best the 2019 raptors. Healthy KD or Klay, they still dont. This GSW team definitely does not beat the 2019 raptors. Defensively we are way way better, offensively our Big man rotation is miles miles ahead better, and I believe our depth is better if not =


2019 raptors had their hands full beating a Warriors team with no KD and no Klay and no bench and a garbage 2nd option. Iguodala who was a low scorer in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 finals was the 2nd option after Klay was out injured. Iguodala’s highest scoring playoff year with the warriors was 10 points a game in 2015. in game 6 close out that the Raptors only won by 4 points despite being able to play a box and one on Curry. Raptors took the 4th quarter with no Klay 28 to 22 for the come from behind victory.


And in the other games the Raptors won by 9, 14, and 13. The two games the Warriors won were by a combined 6 points. Those Raptors were just much, much better than the KD-less Warriors and were beating them for 90% of the series, Klay and no Klay. The Raptors also smacked the Warriors both times in the regular season, including a blowout win against the full-strength squad in Oracle (Dubs never won a game in Oracle against the Raptors that entire year). Warriors scraped out a lucky game 5 win because of a dumb timeout call by Nurse that broke up the momentum, but that series really should have been over in 5.

This is all because the Raptors, much like the Celtics of this year, just had a team that was incredibly well equipped to shut down the Warriors and force Curry to beat them by himself, which of course he could not do. That Raptors team would have been equally effective against any other KD-less Warriors iteration, and certainly would have squashed the geriatric big 3 of 2022.

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:2015, 2016 and 2022 Warriors would all beat the 2019 Raptors in about 5 games. 2019 Warriors without KD were on their way to beating the Raptors without KD untill Klay got injured.


Well, except for the fact that they were down 3-1 until before KD got back. I guess that is "well on their way" to beating the Raptors? Hmm. Really makes you wonder how delusional Warriors fans will try to retcon this year's finals after they get run out of the state by another clearly superior team.
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Re: Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II) 

Post#703 » by QingJames » Sun Jun 5, 2022 6:06 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
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TacoLord wrote:Wtf are you smoking and how can I get some of it? The KD Warriors are one of the most stacked teams in history. The Raptors got lucky that 2 of their 3 best players got injured, or that series would have been over in 5.


Klay missed 1game, and half a quarter
GSW got to the finals without KD
We were up 3-1
Have a good day sir


I mean, I was happy for the Raptors at the time and think they were a really good team but these reasons are patently not able to desmonstrate that they could beat the full strength Warriors.
-Cool but their best player also missed the whole series; that would be like Kawhi not playing at all and Lowry missing a big chunk and playing hobbled the whole series. That's not a very good team.
-No idea why that's relevant--KD was healthy until late in the semis, but more importantly why is it a slam dunk point for you that the Warriors were able to beat the Dame-CJ Blazers in the CF? The Raptors also likely would've been able to do that, so congrats there, every finals team of the last 20 years can say the same
-You were up 3-1 without their best player, and with their 3rd best player missing time and playing injured. That's the whole premise of the argument here.


They were losing when Klay was playing. Before he was hurt, they were losing with him on the floor. When he came back, they were losing with him on the floor. When he got injured, they were losing. When he returned again; losing.

Curry - Klay - Green is just not good enough to beat much better-constructed teams like the Raptors and the Celtics. They got very lucky in 2015 that they got to play against a Cavs team legitimately missing two of their best 3, or they would have lost that year too.
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Post#705 » by MavfanAus » Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:31 am

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That man got exposed today.......
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Post#706 » by Coxy » Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:33 am

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That man got exposed today.......


He was terrible in the 4th quarter today.
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Post#707 » by Admiral-Kizaru » Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:35 am

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That man got exposed today.......


He was terrible in the 4th quarter today.


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He totally disappeared, and looked afraid to even shoot it.
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Post#708 » by Zvaart » Mon Jun 6, 2022 4:46 am

Raps fans still feeling the need to justify their title? That js beyond lame. Just take it and run. How insecure can you be to do all these mental gymnastic to inflate a title that you won fair and square on the field?

Doesn't matter a fully healthy dubs team was better that the Raps or not. You won, the end.
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Post#709 » by whocurrz » Mon Jun 6, 2022 5:19 am

Don’t think Raps fans are trying to justify anything beyond that they are a GREAT team. And like so many Warriors teams they refuse to accept that a great team automatically lose every hypothetical series.

As a W’s fan I know it was a series that I wish we coulda seen everyone at full strength but that was a beast team. Even if they coulda lost that series with a healthy KD they were an incredible team who should have a much better legacy than beneficiaries of an injury who were a weak champion. I think they were as good or better than the 2018 Rockets a team who was great as well but one team just gets the benefit of the doubt am that they win and the other that they lose
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Post#710 » by Zvaart » Mon Jun 6, 2022 5:35 am

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That man got exposed today.......


He was terrible in the 4th quarter today.

Yup, they literally run him off the court :(
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Post#712 » by 2klegend » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:37 am

No more excuses. He needs a Final MVP to at least be a contender for Top 10 when said and done.
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Post#713 » by righterwriter » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:47 am

2klegend wrote:No more excuses. He needs a Final MVP to at least be a contender for Top 10 when said and done.


Not really.
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Post#715 » by Backcountry » Mon Jun 6, 2022 5:19 pm

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That's a cool stat, no question. But who is the guy in the graphic? Looks more like Gobert than Steph...
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Post#716 » by art_tatum » Mon Jun 6, 2022 5:24 pm

Part 1 and 2 will go down as a realgm classic.
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Post#717 » by Bergmaniac » Mon Jun 6, 2022 5:26 pm

This is the thread that keeps on giving, so many hilarious posts by Steph haters.
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Post#718 » by lessthanjake » Mon Jun 6, 2022 6:08 pm

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HotelVitale wrote:
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Klay missed 1game, and half a quarter
GSW got to the finals without KD
We were up 3-1
Have a good day sir


I mean, I was happy for the Raptors at the time and think they were a really good team but these reasons are patently not able to desmonstrate that they could beat the full strength Warriors.
-Cool but their best player also missed the whole series; that would be like Kawhi not playing at all and Lowry missing a big chunk and playing hobbled the whole series. That's not a very good team.
-No idea why that's relevant--KD was healthy until late in the semis, but more importantly why is it a slam dunk point for you that the Warriors were able to beat the Dame-CJ Blazers in the CF? The Raptors also likely would've been able to do that, so congrats there, every finals team of the last 20 years can say the same
-You were up 3-1 without their best player, and with their 3rd best player missing time and playing injured. That's the whole premise of the argument here.


They were losing when Klay was playing. Before he was hurt, they were losing with him on the floor. When he came back, they were losing with him on the floor. When he got injured, they were losing. When he returned again; losing.

Curry - Klay - Green is just not good enough to beat much better-constructed teams like the Raptors and the Celtics. They got very lucky in 2015 that they got to play against a Cavs team legitimately missing two of their best 3, or they would have lost that year too.


Klay played in five games in that series. Three of the games he played fully, and two of the games he went out injured in the second half. If you look at the final score of games he played fully and the score at the time he left in the games he was injured in, you’ll see the Warriors were ahead in 3 out of 5 games. The upshot is that it’s very difficult to say that the Warriors couldn’t have won the series if Klay had been healthy. Indeed, when Klay played, it was really close and if anything the Warriors had a slight edge. The difference in the series was that they lost a game Klay didn’t play in, and lost a game where Klay got injured when they were up by 5 late in the third quarter.
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Post#719 » by DroseReturnChi » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:04 pm

2klegend wrote:No more excuses. He needs a Final MVP to at least be a contender for Top 10 when said and done.



Kind of shocking stat says hes one of 3 players yet couldnt win any ps awards. he should have played some lick of defense like this yr instead of being traed.
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Post#720 » by Impuniti » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:07 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
2klegend wrote:No more excuses. He needs a Final MVP to at least be a contender for Top 10 when said and done.



Kind of shocking stat says hes one of 3 players yet couldnt win any ps awards. he should have played some lick of defense like this yr instead of being traed.

How's that Mavs in 5 prediction going again? Or the Memphis one you had?

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