2021-22 Rookie Thread

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Who will be the three best rookies?

Cade Cunningham
130
14%
Jalen Green
148
16%
Evan Mobley
187
21%
Scottie Barnes
225
25%
Jalen Suggs
51
6%
Josh Giddey
82
9%
Jonathan Kuminga
6
1%
Trey Murphy
11
1%
James Bouknight
15
2%
Other
44
5%
 
Total votes: 899

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Re: 2021-22 Rookie Thread 

Post#701 » by Creativetran » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:51 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Crazy good draft class.

I was fine with Giddey at 6 but badly wanted to move up to draft Mobley. Props to Cleveland for not moving down. Still early but feel he was the obvious second pick (don't blame the Pistons though because of the Cade hype and still very high ceiling).

Just curious, was there ever any reports on how much you guys were willing to trade up to get Mobley?
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Post#702 » by Creativetran » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:58 pm

PlatinumState wrote:Was Corey Kispert a wasted pick?
Id think a 4 year college player would settle in more easily, or is he just not nba material?

Maybe he's Redick 2.0, remember Redick was an even better college player that didn't really became a decent NBA player until a few years in the league where he figured how to be less of a defensive liability.
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Post#703 » by Madhouse » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:07 pm

Creativetran wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Crazy good draft class.

I was fine with Giddey at 6 but badly wanted to move up to draft Mobley. Props to Cleveland for not moving down. Still early but feel he was the obvious second pick (don't blame the Pistons though because of the Cade hype and still very high ceiling).

Just curious, was there ever any reports on how much you guys were willing to trade up to get Mobley?


Just reading how many teams wanted to move up for Mobley tells me majority of teams saw him as the best player.
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Post#704 » by Jadoogar » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:09 pm

PlatinumState wrote:Was Corey Kispert a wasted pick?
Id think a 4 year college player would settle in more easily, or is he just not nba material?


Everyone knew his ceiling and his path to be successful in the league. I think he's a good pick for a more established team but Wizards might have needed to swing for the fences.
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Post#706 » by Bruin » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:53 pm

I wonder if Greens struggles has any effect on the outlook of going the Gleague route vs college

Green had a year going up against pros and older/more developed guys and so far it doesn’t seem like it benefitted him much. He got to fully focus on basketball for a full year with professional training/coaching without having to also split time in classes/the usual college student distractions. He had the opportunity for a year to adapt to the physicality of playing against older/bigger guys and work on his body

Kinda was expecting Green to have a bit of an advantage over the rest of the rookies in that sense. Obviously still way too early to make an actual judgement on this and we’ll have to see how Kuminga fairs too
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Post#707 » by JonFromVA » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:58 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Creativetran wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Crazy good draft class.

I was fine with Giddey at 6 but badly wanted to move up to draft Mobley. Props to Cleveland for not moving down. Still early but feel he was the obvious second pick (don't blame the Pistons though because of the Cade hype and still very high ceiling).

Just curious, was there ever any reports on how much you guys were willing to trade up to get Mobley?


Just reading how many teams wanted to move up for Mobley tells me majority of teams saw him as the best player.


The Cavs made it know they were interested in trading down right up until they got the 3rd pick. Some people imagined the Cavs need for a wing meant they would be happy to trade down and get Barnes/Kuminga and another player, but they simply misread the situation and of course the Raptors shut the door on Barnes sliding any further.
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Post#708 » by HumbleRen » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:58 pm

PrinceAli wrote:I wonder if Greens struggles has any effect on the outlook of going the Gleague route vs college

Green had a year going up against pros and older/more developed guys and so far it doesn’t seem like it benefitted him much. He got to fully focus on basketball for a full year with professional training/coaching without having to also split time in classes/the usual college student distractions. He had the opportunity for a year to adapt to the physicality of playing against older/bigger guys and work on his body

Kinda was expecting Green to have a bit of an advantage over the rest of the rookies in that sense. Obviously still way too early to make an actual judgement on this and we’ll have to see how Kuminga fairs too


WAY too early for these type of conversations lol
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Post#709 » by Bruin » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:00 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:I wonder if Greens struggles has any effect on the outlook of going the Gleague route vs college

Green had a year going up against pros and older/more developed guys and so far it doesn’t seem like it benefitted him much. He got to fully focus on basketball for a full year with professional training/coaching without having to also split time in classes/the usual college student distractions. He had the opportunity for a year to adapt to the physicality of playing against older/bigger guys and work on his body

Kinda was expecting Green to have a bit of an advantage over the rest of the rookies in that sense. Obviously still way too early to make an actual judgement on this and we’ll have to see how Kuminga fairs too


WAY too early for these type of conversations lol

Yep for sure. Something to keep on eye on going forward though
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Post#710 » by HumbleRen » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:02 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:I wonder if Greens struggles has any effect on the outlook of going the Gleague route vs college

Green had a year going up against pros and older/more developed guys and so far it doesn’t seem like it benefitted him much. He got to fully focus on basketball for a full year with professional training/coaching without having to also split time in classes/the usual college student distractions. He had the opportunity for a year to adapt to the physicality of playing against older/bigger guys and work on his body

Kinda was expecting Green to have a bit of an advantage over the rest of the rookies in that sense. Obviously still way too early to make an actual judgement on this and we’ll have to see how Kuminga fairs too


WAY too early for these type of conversations lol

Yep for sure. Something to keep on eye on going forward though


I think he'll follow Anthony Edward's trajectory, really come on strong in the 2nd half of the year.
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Re: 2021-22 Rookie Thread 

Post#711 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:54 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Creativetran wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Crazy good draft class.

I was fine with Giddey at 6 but badly wanted to move up to draft Mobley. Props to Cleveland for not moving down. Still early but feel he was the obvious second pick (don't blame the Pistons though because of the Cade hype and still very high ceiling).

Just curious, was there ever any reports on how much you guys were willing to trade up to get Mobley?


Just reading how many teams wanted to move up for Mobley tells me majority of teams saw him as the best player.


or Cleveland put some feelers to teams saying give me your best offers to gauge the interest of Mobley. I think Houston and Detroit were deadset on #1 and #2.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#712 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:01 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Creativetran wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Crazy good draft class.

I was fine with Giddey at 6 but badly wanted to move up to draft Mobley. Props to Cleveland for not moving down. Still early but feel he was the obvious second pick (don't blame the Pistons though because of the Cade hype and still very high ceiling).

Just curious, was there ever any reports on how much you guys were willing to trade up to get Mobley?


Just reading how many teams wanted to move up for Mobley tells me majority of teams saw him as the best player.


Think all the noise was around Raptors and OKC trying to move up for him. And no coincidence the reporting also said both Raps and OKC had Barnes and Giddey higher on their boards than the most of the league.

Not sure about OKC but if felt like Raps would have taken Barnes and Giddey over Green as well and Mobely was clearly number 1 on their board.
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Post#713 » by PD28 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:15 pm




Both guys love and support one another. They're both amped to win this game to be able to smack talk each other lol like typical brothers would do. No need to wish ill will on either prospect, just enjoy this rivalry for years to come!
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Post#714 » by DudetheObscure » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:49 pm

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LofJ wrote:Jalen Green is going to struggle all season if the Rockets insist on not starting a veteran guard next to him that can handle the ball. It makes no damn sense at all because they have 3 legit options in Wall, Gordon, and Augustin. None of them are going to be there in two years, but that's not the point. If you want your rookies to develop properly you have to put them in a position to succeed. The Rockets aren't doing that with Green.

Wall in particular was always really good at hitting shooters in their spots. The Rockets benching him is indefensible.


i really don't like the KPJ/Green combo long term. Right now it doesn't matter, they want to lose so let those 2 chuck up shots. But they both have a scoring mentality, eventually they'll need someone who can run an offense.


It looks right now they have more of a shooting mentality than a scoring mentality :D
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Re: 2021-22 Rookie Thread 

Post#715 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:18 pm

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raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#716 » by aad » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:18 pm

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Re: 2021-22 Rookie Thread 

Post#717 » by Jadoogar » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:34 pm

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Re: 2021-22 Rookie Thread 

Post#718 » by Bruin » Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:06 am

Barnes with 19 pts, 6 rebounds, 2 steals (8/11 FG and 1/2 from 3) at half

Suggs with 6 points, 1 rebound, 3 assists (2/6 FG and 2/4 from 3)
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Post#719 » by nikster » Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:06 am

Barnes with 19 at half, has hit 6 jumpshots so far this game. Love to see his shot fallijg like that. Hopefully his eyes okay
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