Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two

[Joerezz7]

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quote="Nowascki"]I hate to be the person talking about this, but I feel like it's needed. Unfortunately even today, in the modern days, the hatred and prejudice against women runs deeply in America. The #metoo movement exposed this. Kobe was an amazing player, a myth, a legend, but if are being sincere here he also very likely sexually assaulted an innocent woman. Might have even ruined her life. But we don't talk about this. Most people don't even know her name. We only talk about the glory and the fame, but nothing about the bad parts.

And we are talking something global here. The NBA is watched everywhere, and women everywhere live with fear of being sexually assaulted. As a trans woman, I live with this fear too. What kind of message are we sending here when we sweep this under the rug? We need to be mature and talk about the good and bad things in the life of a person. It's very serious, especially in cases like this. And it's disturbing when most of the media and hollywood, who are both industries full of sexism, don't even dare mention it just because Kobe was famous and a millionaire. The part of the media who is mentioning it is suffering fierce and disgusting sexist attacks, like the Washington Post reporter. Is this the NBA we want?

Anyway, this doesn't erase the fact that it was a horrifically sad and tragic accident, I hope all those who died rest in peace.[/quote]

Anyone who brings up the false rape allegations against Kobe is racist. Only people I been seeing bringing that stuff is racist white people. White supremacist sympathizers. That woman was lying and only wanted money. Once she got the money she was never heard from her again.

As far as the #metoo the only people that have been locked up since that movement started is black men which are Bill Cosby and R Kelly. Jeffrey Epstein and plenty of other white men ACTUALLY GOT AWAY WITH RAPE and did no jail time for it.[/quote][/quote]


Maybe I've missed your other posts but the only ones I've seen from you on these threads is you calling people racist and trying to push your own agendas. Ironic you're doing exactly what your complaining about.

Just as inappropriate as the post you quoted.[/quote]

Yea you definitely missed my posts. I don’t really get political on here cause it’s a basketball forum. Yesterday I posted a video of a MSNBC commentator calling the Lakers the N word and that was cause it related to Kobe passing away. I never called anyone on here racist until my last post that you’re referring too.

You trying to justify racism puts you in the same boat as the guy that I quoted. You going after me for going after I guy who posted some hateful nonsense shows the type of person you are. No type of respect for a man that just passed away along with his daughter

[Biased_Fan6425]

I hate to be the person talking about this, but I feel like it's needed. Unfortunately even today, in the modern days, the hatred and prejudice against women runs deeply in America. The #metoo movement exposed this. Kobe was an amazing player, a myth, a legend, but if are being sincere here he also very likely sexually assaulted an innocent woman. Might have even ruined her life. But we don't talk about this. Most people don't even know her name. We only talk about the glory and the fame, but nothing about the bad parts.

And we are talking something global here. The NBA is watched everywhere, and women everywhere live with fear of being sexually assaulted. As a trans woman, I live with this fear too. What kind of message are we sending here when we sweep this under the rug? We need to be mature and talk about the good and bad things in the life of a person. It's very serious, especially in cases like this. And it's disturbing when most of the media and hollywood, who are both industries full of sexism, don't even dare mention it just because Kobe was famous and a millionaire. The part of the media who is mentioning it is suffering fierce and disgusting sexist attacks, like the Washington Post reporter. Is this the NBA we want?

Anyway, this doesn't erase the fact that it was a horrifically sad and tragic accident, I hope all those who died rest in peace.

I hate to be the person talking about this, but I feel like it's needed.

You are an Idiot.

[thebigbird]

I hate to be the person talking about this, but I feel like it's needed. Unfortunately even today, in the modern days, the hatred and prejudice against women runs deeply in America. The #metoo movement exposed this. Kobe was an amazing player, a myth, a legend, but if are being sincere here he also very likely sexually assaulted an innocent woman. Might have even ruined her life. But we don't talk about this. Most people don't even know her name. We only talk about the glory and the fame, but nothing about the bad parts.

And we are talking something global here. The NBA is watched everywhere, and women everywhere live with fear of being sexually assaulted. As a trans woman, I live with this fear too. What kind of message are we sending here when we sweep this under the rug? We need to be mature and talk about the good and bad things in the life of a person. It's very serious, especially in cases like this. And it's disturbing when most of the media and hollywood, who are both industries full of sexism, don't even dare mention it just because Kobe was famous and a millionaire. The part of the media who is mentioning it is suffering fierce and disgusting sexist attacks, like the Washington Post reporter. Is this the NBA we want?

Anyway, this doesn't erase the fact that it was a horrifically sad and tragic accident, I hope all those who died rest in peace.

Anyone who brings up the false rape allegations against Kobe is racist. Only people I been seeing bringing that stuff is racist white people. White supremacist sympathizers. That woman was lying and only wanted money. Once she got the money she was never heard from her again.

As far as the #metoo the only people that have been locked up since that movement started is black men which are Bill Cosby and R Kelly. Jeffrey Epstein and plenty of other white men ACTUALLY GOT AWAY WITH RAPE and did no jail time for it.

Do you know what an NDA is? That's exactly what they are.. You get the money and you never talk about it again. You can't really use that as evidence here.

But anyway, not the time or place for that conversation.

[Joerezz7]

I hate to be the person talking about this, but I feel like it's needed. Unfortunately even today, in the modern days, the hatred and prejudice against women runs deeply in America. The #metoo movement exposed this. Kobe was an amazing player, a myth, a legend, but if are being sincere here he also very likely sexually assaulted an innocent woman. Might have even ruined her life. But we don't talk about this. Most people don't even know her name. We only talk about the glory and the fame, but nothing about the bad parts.

And we are talking something global here. The NBA is watched everywhere, and women everywhere live with fear of being sexually assaulted. As a trans woman, I live with this fear too. What kind of message are we sending here when we sweep this under the rug? We need to be mature and talk about the good and bad things in the life of a person. It's very serious, especially in cases like this. And it's disturbing when most of the media and hollywood, who are both industries full of sexism, don't even dare mention it just because Kobe was famous and a millionaire. The part of the media who is mentioning it is suffering fierce and disgusting sexist attacks, like the Washington Post reporter. Is this the NBA we want?

Anyway, this doesn't erase the fact that it was a horrifically sad and tragic accident, I hope all those who died rest in peace.

Anyone who brings up the false rape allegations against Kobe is racist. Only people I been seeing bringing that stuff is racist white people. White supremacist sympathizers. That woman was lying and only wanted money. Once she got the money she was never heard from her again.

As far as the #metoo the only people that have been locked up since that movement started is black men which are Bill Cosby and R Kelly. Jeffrey Epstein and plenty of other white men ACTUALLY GOT AWAY WITH RAPE and did no jail time for it.

Do you know what an NDA is? That's exactly what they are.. You get the money and you never talk about it again. You can't really use that as evidence here.

But anyway, not the time or place for that conversation.

My point still applies that it was all about money. No rape actually happened. Won’t get into that argument with you. Can’t believe you actually sticking up for that dude smh

[CBS7]

Picked up 2k20 on steam last night, was on sale. Played like 7 games as different variations of Kobe. They also hit us with a little tribute whenever you launch.

[thebigbird]

Anyone who brings up the false rape allegations against Kobe is racist. Only people I been seeing bringing that stuff is racist white people. White supremacist sympathizers. That woman was lying and only wanted money. Once she got the money she was never heard from her again.

As far as the #metoo the only people that have been locked up since that movement started is black men which are Bill Cosby and R Kelly. Jeffrey Epstein and plenty of other white men ACTUALLY GOT AWAY WITH RAPE and did no jail time for it.

Do you know what an NDA is? That's exactly what they are.. You get the money and you never talk about it again. You can't really use that as evidence here.

But anyway, not the time or place for that conversation.

My point still applies that it was all about money. No rape actually happened. Won’t get into that argument with you. Can’t believe you actually sticking up for that dude smh

Sticking up for what dude? I only replied to your post to tell you that NDAs prevent the parties from discussing the events after the fact. I wasn't "sticking up for" anyone.

[Drygon]

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[CBS7]

My PC will look like this for a while

[RRyder823]

It's sad and a little pathetic that these things need to be said in this thread

1: Bringing up the rape allegations right now is in extremely poor taste. You're just being an ass

2: Bringing up the rape allegations does NOT make someone racist. They're just being an ass

WTF is wrong with you people?



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[Phystic]

Spoiler:

quote="Nowascki"]I hate to be the person talking about this, but I feel like it's needed. Unfortunately even today, in the modern days, the hatred and prejudice against women runs deeply in America. The #metoo movement exposed this. Kobe was an amazing player, a myth, a legend, but if are being sincere here he also very likely sexually assaulted an innocent woman. Might have even ruined her life. But we don't talk about this. Most people don't even know her name. We only talk about the glory and the fame, but nothing about the bad parts.

And we are talking something global here. The NBA is watched everywhere, and women everywhere live with fear of being sexually assaulted. As a trans woman, I live with this fear too. What kind of message are we sending here when we sweep this under the rug? We need to be mature and talk about the good and bad things in the life of a person. It's very serious, especially in cases like this. And it's disturbing when most of the media and hollywood, who are both industries full of sexism, don't even dare mention it just because Kobe was famous and a millionaire. The part of the media who is mentioning it is suffering fierce and disgusting sexist attacks, like the Washington Post reporter. Is this the NBA we want?

Anyway, this doesn't erase the fact that it was a horrifically sad and tragic accident, I hope all those who died rest in peace.[/quote]

Anyone who brings up the false rape allegations against Kobe is racist. Only people I been seeing bringing that stuff is racist white people. White supremacist sympathizers. That woman was lying and only wanted money. Once she got the money she was never heard from her again.

As far as the #metoo the only people that have been locked up since that movement started is black men which are Bill Cosby and R Kelly. Jeffrey Epstein and plenty of other white men ACTUALLY GOT AWAY WITH RAPE and did no jail time for it.[/quote][/quote]


Maybe I've missed your other posts but the only ones I've seen from you on these threads is you calling people racist and trying to push your own agendas. Ironic you're doing exactly what your complaining about.

Just as inappropriate as the post you quoted.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

Yea you definitely missed my posts. I don’t really get political on here cause it’s a basketball forum. Yesterday I posted a video of a MSNBC commentator calling the Lakers the N word and that was cause it related to Kobe passing away. I never called anyone on here racist until my last post that you’re referring too.

You trying to justify racism puts you in the same boat as the guy that I quoted. You going after me for going after I guy who posted some hateful nonsense shows the type of person you are. No type of respect for a man that just passed away along with his daughter[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

Ya the two times I've seen you in these Memorial threads it's been to call someone racist.

Where did I justify racism? In fact where did the post you quoted even mention race? The person's post didn't seem hateful, just inappropriate and poorly timed. You're the one trying to make it more.The only person that brought race into it was you.

I've given my feelings and thoughts in these threads regarding Kobe, just like everyone else. If you want to discuss your racially driven agenda that's cool, I don't feel it's appropriate in these threads, just like I find it inappropriate for people to try to bring up Kobe's past mistakes, and his court battles.

But I won't continue this, as it too would be inappropriate. Said my piece.

[Jimmy Recard]

Been binging on Kobe highlights and interviews the last 36 hours. Stumbled across one he did in Italy a few years ago.

I knew he was raised partly in Italy growing up, but had no idea he was raised in Reggio Calabria, same province that my mum was born in.

Btw, Kobe spoke Italian beautifully.

Ugh, this still doesn’t feel real. First time in a long time I haven’t cared about watching basketball.

[Clyde Frazier]

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[Joerezz7]

Ya that two times I've seen you in these Memorial threads it's been to called someone racist.

Where did I justify racism? In fact where did the post you quoted even mention race? The person's post didn't seem hateful, just inappropriate and poorly timed. You're the one trying to make it more.The only person that brought race into it was you.

I've given my feelings and thoughts in these threads regarding Kobe, just like everyone else. If you want to discuss your racially driven agenda that's cool, I don't feel it's appropriate in these threads, just like I find it inappropriate for people to try to bring up Kobe's past mistakes, and his court battles.

But I won't continue this, as it too would be inappropriate. Said my piece.

Because the only people bringing up that false rape stuff is white supremacists. They hate to see that a black man is admired so much so they trying to tear it down. It’s a white supremacist driven agenda. The facts are the facts. This is not the first time they did something like this. Don’t pretend that this isn’t something new.

By the way my comments yesterday was about the MSNBC commentator, not a person on here. Get your facts straight.

Won’t continue this with you. R.I.P Kobe

[Knicks7Tape]

Spoiler:

Anyone who brings up the false rape allegations against Kobe is racist. Only people I been seeing bringing that stuff is racist white people. White supremacist sympathizers. That woman was lying and only wanted money. Once she got the money she was never heard from her again.

As far as the #metoo the only people that have been locked up since that movement started is black men which are Bill Cosby and R Kelly. Jeffrey Epstein and plenty of other white men ACTUALLY GOT AWAY WITH RAPE and did no jail time for it.

Do you know what an NDA is? That's exactly what they are.. You get the money and you never talk about it again. You can't really use that as evidence here.

But anyway, not the time or place for that conversation.

My point still applies that it was all about money. No rape actually happened. Won’t get into that argument with you. Can’t believe you actually sticking up for that dude smh

He isn't a real Lakers fan, just a Lebron fanboy. Not surprised to seem him stoop to this level

While I've accepted that Kobe has passed away now. I'm still getting choked up when I see photos of him and Gigi.

Grabbing a pair of Nike Mamba Rage this week

[darkse1d]

so why is the game cancelled tomorrow?

So is this gonna happen every time a laker player/legend dies?

[TheGOATRises007]

so why is the game cancelled tomorrow?

So is this gonna happen every time a laker player/legend dies?

How insensitive can you get....

[TheGOATRises007]

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That is absolutely heartbreaking to watch.

I'm tearing up.

Damn it

[thebigbird]

Spoiler:

Do you know what an NDA is? That's exactly what they are.. You get the money and you never talk about it again. You can't really use that as evidence here.

But anyway, not the time or place for that conversation.

My point still applies that it was all about money. No rape actually happened. Won’t get into that argument with you. Can’t believe you actually sticking up for that dude smh

He isn't a real Lakers fan, just a Lebron fanboy. Not surprised to seem him stoop to this level

While I've accepted that Kobe has passed away now. I'm still getting choked up when I see photos of him and Gigi.

Grabbing a pair of Nike Mamba Rage this week

Oh give me a freaking break, nothing I said was out of line. All I said was that when you sign an NDA you're not allowed to talk, and then I said that it wasn't an appropriate thing to talk about here. I literally said "not the time or place for that conversation." Get out of here with the "Not surprised to seem him stoop to this level" bs. I responded to his post because it was factually incorrect, not to throw shade or hate on Kobe. Maybe it was inappropriate for me to do, and if so I apologize, but I didn't do it to talk about Kobe's past or be insensitive or anything like that at all.

[Roco14]

So you’re going to prematurely blame the pilot but you’ll apologize if evidence comes out that it was a mechanical issue that caused the crash? I don’t know, that doesn’t seem right to me tbh.

I'll be the first one to apologize if it turns out to be mechanical failure, but all evidence so far suggests otherwise.

The way you keep speaking about this seems as if you want to paint the pilot as a villain. Pilot error, mechanic failure, weather related, whatever the final cause is doesn't change the fact that 9 people are gone. Multiple children that did not get to live their lives, one celebrity who was finally getting to enjoy his life outside of his career, two proud athlete parents, a woman who just got a dream assistant coach job, anoyher proud parents and the pilot. All of which had loved ones and people that cared for them.

I've read different sources that said the fog was bad but not horrible when they took off. That based on communications and normal weather patterns they expected it to clear as they approached their destination. It got worse. The pilot tried to turn and climb and didn't make it. He was an experienced, up to date licenses pilot that Kobe trusted.

There's zero reason to direct blame. Whether the pilot ultimately is found to have made a mistake or if it was simply an accident, it doesn't matter.

Just stop with your mission to vilify the pilot.

It's my understanding that even BEFORE Kobe's helicopter took off, the LAPD had already brought down all of their helicopters due to weather conditions. That implies that the visibility was really that bad.

Stop letting this pilot off the hook man. You don't risk a single life in the name of convenience, let alone 8 others. This pilot went to school to learn how to become a pilot. This was his profession, and his one job was to get from point A to point B without harm, and because of his lack of responsibility in this particular situation, a tragedy occurred and the world saw a death that had a magnitude of 100,000 deaths. I don't care if you have to say no to Kobe. That's part of your job description.

If it was indeed engine failure or something to the sort - of course I will retract my words. However, I don't think a man like Kobe, worth 500M+ would be risking the life of his daughter by not doing necessary maintenance/inspection to make sure that it was in near perfection condition monthly, if not weekly.

Let's call it like it is. A helicopter went up in the air when it should NOT have and a horrible tragedy ensued because of it. Even in the unlikely event that the crash wasn't caused by poor weather conditions, it was still an extremely irresponsible choice.

[KIRAG]

More crazy numbers-type stuff...after the dual 24-second “tribute” violations in the Spurs-Raptors game, the very next shot by Lowry bounces up and sits on the backboard, directly under the number 24 on the shotclock. Not only that, but the player who gets it down is #41 Trey Lyles..which not only was the age Kobe died....but who also happened to be guarding Kobe in his final 60-pt game.

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Here's a much better quality of that situation.

https://streamable.com/05e91

That's probably Kobe acknowledging back the players gestures of the 24 shot clock violation by having a ball-going-in-the basket violation himself since this is the first game/two teams also that did the gesture right after his death