Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II)

balla4lyf23 · Post #721 » by **balla4lyf23** » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:08 pm

this didnt age well...

Bolivar · Post #722 » by **Bolivar** » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:16 pm

Backcountry wrote:
Homer38 wrote:

Read on Twitter

That's a cool stat, no question. But who is the guy in the graphic? Looks more like Gobert than Steph...

I'd say Gordon Hayward...

ShootersShoot · Post #723 » by **ShootersShoot** » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:19 pm

How does this thread have three parts? :lol:

Post #724 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 4:33 am

Read on Twitter

JN61 · Post #725 » by **JN61** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 10:24 am

Jamaaliver wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

They lost.

Post #726 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 11:19 am

JN61 wrote:They lost.

Yes. They did.

But Steph is playing exceptionally well in the NBA Finals, averaging a series high 31 ppg on 48% shooting from 3-pt range.

Teammate Draymond Green is averaging 5 ppg. There's a chance the Celtics are simply a better constructed team overall.

I do wonder: if Steph can continue playing at such a high level, might he garner any Finals MVP votes even if his team loses.

Post #727 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 11:22 am

Steph has a combined 6 points in all 3 4th quarters. One of those is clearly for a good reason, but there's no way he's winning finals MVP on a losing team when he's been a complete non factor in every 4th. I'm not even a "4th quarter>>>" but that's glaring

rand · Post #728 » by **rand** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 11:41 am

JN61 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

They lost.

Yeah but if they won while Steph played badly you folks would be in here talking about it

WHITE_HOT_HEAT · Post #729 » by **WHITE_HOT_HEAT** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 12:00 pm

rand wrote:
JN61 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

They lost.

Yeah but if they won while Steph played badly you folks would be in here talking about it

Warranted from previous years... But not to the extent that RGM goes

Impuniti · Post #730 » by **Impuniti** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 12:14 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Steph has a combined 6 points in all 3 4th quarters. One of those is clearly for a good reason, but there's no way he's winning finals MVP on a losing team when he's been a complete non factor in every 4th. I'm not even a "4th quarter>>>" but that's glaring

The guy losing should never win FMVP, that would be ridiculous.

Post #731 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 12:16 pm

Impuniti wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:Steph has a combined 6 points in all 3 4th quarters. One of those is clearly for a good reason, but there's no way he's winning finals MVP on a losing team when he's been a complete non factor in every 4th. I'm not even a "4th quarter>>>" but that's glaring

The guy losing should never win FMVP, that would be ridiculous.

I wouldn't be against it if it was a truly groundbreaking effort and the other team didn't have a standout excellent player. I don't believe this is that at all though. Jaylen Brown for me if the series continued this way to a Celtics win.

JN61 · Post #732 » by **JN61** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 12:21 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
JN61 wrote:They lost.

Yes. They did.

But Steph is playing exceptionally well in the NBA Finals, averaging a series high 31 ppg on 48% shooting from 3-pt range.

Teammate Draymond Green is averaging 5 ppg. There's a chance the Celtics are simply a better constructed team overall.

I do wonder: if Steph can continue playing at such a high level, might he garner any Finals MVP votes even if his team loses.

3.7 assists per game for a point guard. That is not exceptionally well when your teammates are struggling. You as leader of a team must create for others and not just shrug your shoulders about your teammates shooting poorly. Curry and his impact on this serie has been pretty mediocre, especially by his standards. Is he putting up points? Yes. Has he impacted on the game on the manner his scoring would suggest? Absolutely not.

I take 20 ppg and 10 assists per game over this chucking where he just shoots 3 pointer every time he has the ball. And everyone else are baffled why his teammates struggle. Curry is career wise really good rebounding guard as well and he is just not doing that either in this serie. Combined with the fact that he is not defending. You have recipe for what it has been so far. If others somehow manage to get hot Warriors are pretty good but if not there is nobody else to elevate their game or create easy offense for them and Celtics dominate.

Darren · Post #733 » by **Darren** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 12:35 pm

Curry is never a great defender. But two problems :

1. GSW can't demonstrate the best defense. Smart, White and so on are really not unguardable. But GSW fails the defensive assignment a lot the whole series.

2. Klay, Wiggins, Draymond are all streaky for three balls the whole series. But when the team trails, they're forced to put either Curry or Poole on court.

This makes it difficult to defend and come back.

I think GSW is capable to defending the playmakers and generate turnovers but is underachieving so far.

lambchop · Post #734 » by **lambchop** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 12:39 pm

rand wrote:
JN61 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

They lost.

Yeah but if they won while Steph played badly you folks would be in here talking about it

That's a compliment and shows that he has solidified himself as an all time great. His performance gets compared to LBJ, sometimes even MJ, he gets put ahead of guys like Magic Johnson or Thomas in the all time PG rankings. That means people are going to scrutinize his game and performance.

sikma42 · Post #735 » by **sikma42** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 12:43 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
JN61 wrote:They lost.

Yes. They did.

But Steph is playing exceptionally well in the NBA Finals, averaging a series high 31 ppg on 48% shooting from 3-pt range.

Teammate Draymond Green is averaging 5 ppg. There's a chance the Celtics are simply a better constructed team overall.

I do wonder: if Steph can continue playing at such a high level, might he garner any Finals MVP votes even if his team loses.

He isn't really playing exceptionally well. He is struggling to create for his team and isn't doing enough as a playmaker + being exploited on defense.

Clutch0z24 · Post #736 » by **Clutch0z24** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 12:51 pm

Curry as fun as he is to watch with how crazy hot he can get....He just does not put fear in your heart like some other players do...Could be his size or his lack of defensive ability....Or might be the fact when his Jumpshot or he isn't hitting 5 threes in the span of 3 mins he just does not do anything else on the court that you fear....You can expose him on the defensive end by getting switches like they did with Tatum, And you can somewhat contain him if you have good enough defenders to bother his shot enough times...

Guys like Kawhi, LeBron, Giannis, Kobe, Jordan, KD Types are scary to play cause they can effect the game in so many ways then just Shooting a jumpshot...Thats the difference and puts him a tier below them guys.

dautjazz · Post #737 » by **dautjazz** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 1:00 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:Curry as fun as he is to watch with how crazy hot he can get....He just does not put fear in your heart like some other players do...Could be his size or his lack of defensive ability....Or might be the fact when his Jumpshot or he isn't hitting 5 threes in the span of 3 mins he just does not do anything else on the court that you fear....You can expose him on the defensive end by getting switches like they did with Tatum, And you can somewhat contain him if you have good enough defenders to bother his shot enough times...

Guys like Kawhi, LeBron, Giannis, Kobe, Jordan, KD Types are scary to play cause they can effect the game in so many ways then just Shooting a jumpshot...Thats the difference and puts him a tier below them guys.

Someone in the gamethread yesterday said that Curry is better than Lebron, just because he was heating up in the third. People live so much in the now. Lebron was in his 19th season, had AD for half a season, and basically nothing else. Are we going to act like Curry would do any better in Lebron's place, much less at 37 (Curry is currently 34), or in year 19 (this is year 13 for Curry). Not to mention Lebron destroyed Curry and his 73 win Warriors when Curry had a 3-1 advantage.

Curry is a great player, and honestly he's been the best player in the series, but a prime Lebron would have had a handful of rebounds and assists more, and far superior defense. Curry is great, but Lebron is in tier with guys like MJ.

art_tatum · Post #738 » by **art_tatum** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 1:06 pm

Kerrs been exposed more like it.
And draymond slack of offense. At least smart is making a couple 3s a game

Lunartic · Post #739 » by **Lunartic** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 1:14 pm

2022 playoff averages of 26/5/5 on .600 with average defense is pretty good but it's not something that hasn't been done before

Leonard
Lebron
Durant
Giannis

have all played as well or better in the playoffs.

I don't think it's true that Curry has been better than Jaylen Brown this series, JB is getting it done on both ends while Curry is just shooting absolutely insane from 3.

DarkXaero · Post #740 » by **DarkXaero** » Thu Jun 9, 2022 2:03 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Steph has a combined 6 points in all 3 4th quarters. One of those is clearly for a good reason, but there's no way he's winning finals MVP on a losing team when he's been a complete non factor in every 4th. I'm not even a "4th quarter>>>" but that's glaring

The 6 pts are also on 3/10 FG so far. Game 2 was a blow out so he didn't play the 4th but the other two games where they had a chance of winning, he has sucked in the 4th.