2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 4)

Statlanta · Post #721 » by **Statlanta** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 8:08 pm

Cade gonna like good now that he has a big man that can get buckets. Pistons fleeced Denver again(much like how they stole Jeremiah Grant). We getting the #1 pick odds now.

whitehops · Post #722 » by **whitehops** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:17 am

Do the raps always sit Barnes when it’s crunch time?

Bruin · Post #723 » by **Bruin** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:26 am

whitehops wrote:Do the raps always sit Barnes when it’s crunch time?

Nah. I think this is the 1st time he was benched in crunch time. Was struggling tonight. Also seems to be playing through some knee issues (missed a game for knee tendinitis last week) which seemed to have been effecting him tonight

gp2015 · Post #724 » by **gp2015** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:28 am

PrinceAli wrote:
whitehops wrote:Do the raps always sit Barnes when it’s crunch time?

Nah. I think this is the 1st time he was benched in crunch time. Was struggling tonight. Also seems to be playing through some knee issues (missed a game for knee tendinitis last week) which seemed to have been effecting him tonight

We also needed someone to match up and rebound against JV.

payton2kemp · Post #725 » by **payton2kemp** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:12 am

Raptors fans been real quiet about their boy Scottie lately lol. He's regressing to the mean. 7 points on 3-10 shooting, only 4 boards as well.

DroseReturnChi · Post #726 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:27 am

therealozzykhan wrote:Raptors fans been real quiet about their boy Scottie lately lol. He's regressing to the mean. 7 points on 3-10 shooting, only 4 boards as well.

this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

God Squad · Post #727 » by **God Squad** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:54 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
therealozzykhan wrote:Raptors fans been real quiet about their boy Scottie lately lol. He's regressing to the mean. 7 points on 3-10 shooting, only 4 boards as well.

this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

We have are full team back healthy. Scottie is like 4th-5th on the pecking order now. In front of him are FVV, Pascal, OG and at times even GTJ. Not to mention we're on a 6-game winning streak since the team has been healthy. Honestly you two are clueless, especially DroseReturn.

OrlMagic05 · Post #728 » by **OrlMagic05** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:34 pm

srhcan wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
srhcan wrote:I showed you the stats of both Barnes and Mobley at the end of NOV. Please open your eyes and see them.
Barnes was beating Mobley soundly on stats alone. Barnes had better points, assists, steals and almost same rebounds. Mobley was only better in blocks. No wonder Barnes was ranked #1 in NBA Rookie Ladder for 4 weeks out of the 6 weeks of OCT & NOV. Btw for the other 2 weeks he was ranked #2.

If ROM was only about stats then Barnes had it in bag for OCT & NOV. But he did not win it which means another factor was also into play and that factor had bigger weightage than stats. And that factor was team winning and how much rookie is helping in team winning. Cavs were winning and Mobley was helping Cavs in winning games. Raptors were losing and Barnes was not able to help Raptors win. Simples.

Um am I missing something... 0.6 more points, 0.9 more asts, and 0.3stls more stls is not "soundly beating".

so in your logic
* averaging 0.6 more points is worst than averaging 0.6 less points
* averaging 0.9 more assists is worst than averaging 0.9 less assists
* averaging 0.3 more steals is worst than averaging 0.3 less assists

Didnt say it was worse, you said Barnes was SOUNDLY BEATING Mobley. None of that is soundly beating. Is it beating him yes, but once again not SOUNDLY BEATING

Jadoogar · Post #729 » by **Jadoogar** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:55 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
therealozzykhan wrote:Raptors fans been real quiet about their boy Scottie lately lol. He's regressing to the mean. 7 points on 3-10 shooting, only 4 boards as well.

this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

Lol scottie is playing on a real team unlike the Magic or the Thunder. His scoring is down but he's still contributing in other ways. On friday he had 11/9/8. He's been perfectly fine in his role.

Kurtz · Post #730 » by **Kurtz** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:28 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
therealozzykhan wrote:Raptors fans been real quiet about their boy Scottie lately lol. He's regressing to the mean. 7 points on 3-10 shooting, only 4 boards as well.

this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

This has got to be the most clueless post in this thread.

payton2kemp · Post #731 » by **payton2kemp** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:28 pm

God Squad wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
therealozzykhan wrote:Raptors fans been real quiet about their boy Scottie lately lol. He's regressing to the mean. 7 points on 3-10 shooting, only 4 boards as well.

this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

We have are full team back healthy. Scottie is like 4th-5th on the pecking order now. In front of him are FVV, Pascal, OG and at times even GTJ. Not to mention we're on a 6-game winning streak since the team has been healthy. Honestly you two are clueless, especially DroseReturn.

Those wins are from FVV/Siakam playing well, Barnes has been weak lately. He's not that good in recent games.

KokoKaizer · Post #732 » by **KokoKaizer** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:36 pm

Kurtz wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
therealozzykhan wrote:Raptors fans been real quiet about their boy Scottie lately lol. He's regressing to the mean. 7 points on 3-10 shooting, only 4 boards as well.

this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

This has got to be the most clueless post in this thread.

Mate, DroseReturnChi is on a mission.

Just read all his posts, that's just mindblogging

Kurtz · Post #733 » by **Kurtz** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:41 pm

therealozzykhan wrote:
God Squad wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

We have are full team back healthy. Scottie is like 4th-5th on the pecking order now. In front of him are FVV, Pascal, OG and at times even GTJ. Not to mention we're on a 6-game winning streak since the team has been healthy. Honestly you two are clueless, especially DroseReturn.

Those wins are from FVV/Siakam playing well, Barnes has been weak lately. He's not that good in recent games.

That's true...he went from being the 3rd option on most nights to being the 5th option with everyone back. And his shot has been a little off lately. He went from being relied on for offence to a glue guy who is asked to guard 2-5 and make link up plays instead of being the trigger man. It's worked well from the team performance standpoint, but definitely dropped him in the rookie race. He needs to make a bit of an adjustment and find more shots.

Mobley has built a bit of a moat in the rookie race over the last 2 weeks.

MotownMadness · Post #734 » by **MotownMadness** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:40 pm

KokoKaizer wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

This has got to be the most clueless post in this thread.

Mate, DroseReturnChi is on a mission.

Just read all his posts, that's just mindblogging

A player is either a bust or special depending on the hour and play with him.

LoveMyRaps · Post #735 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:28 pm

KokoKaizer wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

This has got to be the most clueless post in this thread.

Mate, DroseReturnChi is on a mission.

Just read all his posts, that's just mindblogging

therealozzykhan is just as bad. Dude hates on everything Raptors related. Go thru his post history if you dare. Kind of sad to see.

The Raptors players & fans accumulate way more space in his head than his own family. :lol:

LoveMyRaps · Post #736 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:30 pm

A couple bad shooting games from Scottie after returning from COVID & Knee Tendinitis and the haters are out in full force. Comical. He's still been filling up the stat sheet and contributing in many different ways. Hence, why his team has won 6 straight games.

Seems like just about every top rookie has hit a rookie wall as of late as we near the midway point of the point season but sure let's just talk trash about Scottie.

Jadoogar · Post #737 » by **Jadoogar** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:32 pm

therealozzykhan wrote:
God Squad wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
this is the real scottie we are seeing. first month was hot streak he was always a horrible shooter with no offense.
his strength is volume scoring but that sacrifices efficiency and might force him to bad chucking. I expect his avg to be 10/5.
masai might be in depression does he develop scottie and tank or limit his role and try to contend this yr? he is a draymond clone but masai is trying to force him to be giannis.

We have are full team back healthy. Scottie is like 4th-5th on the pecking order now. In front of him are FVV, Pascal, OG and at times even GTJ. Not to mention we're on a 6-game winning streak since the team has been healthy. Honestly you two are clueless, especially DroseReturn.

Those wins are from FVV/Siakam playing well, Barnes has been weak lately. He's not that good in recent games.

Barnes' last 6 games before last night
11/9/6 against Jazz
6/6/4 against Bucks
11/9/8 against Spurs
13/4 against knicks
21/8/6 against very short handed Warriors
23/12/5 against Nets (went toe to toe with Durant)

yes a couple subpar games but that's normal for every rookie, "weak lately" is quite the overstatement,

LoveMyRaps · Post #738 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:34 pm

Jadoogar wrote:
therealozzykhan wrote:
God Squad wrote:We have are full team back healthy. Scottie is like 4th-5th on the pecking order now. In front of him are FVV, Pascal, OG and at times even GTJ. Not to mention we're on a 6-game winning streak since the team has been healthy. Honestly you two are clueless, especially DroseReturn.

Those wins are from FVV/Siakam playing well, Barnes has been weak lately. He's not that good in recent games.

Barnes' last 6 games before last night
11/9/6 against Jazz
6/6/4 against Bucks
11/9/8 against Spurs
13/4 against knicks
21/8/6 against very short handed Warriors
23/12/5 against Nets (went toe to toe with Durant)

yes a couple subpar games but that's normal for every rookie, "weak lately" is quite the overstatement,

You forgot to add his blocks & steals as well. Scottie has been fine. The dude you're responding to is just a sad hater.

orlando_joe · Post #739 » by **orlando_joe** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:54 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:A couple bad shooting games from Scottie after returning from COVID & Knee Tendinitis and the haters are out in full force. Comical. He's still been filling up the stat sheet and contributing in many different ways. Hence, why his team has won 6 straight games.

Seems like just about every top rookie has hit a rookie wall as of late as we near the midway point of the point season but sure let's just talk trash about Scottie.

hit a wall? he played like 10 games in 6 weeks..raptors should think about cutting min back some then
wagner played 5 in last 8 days

K_chile22 · Post #740 » by **K_chile22** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:01 pm

My nuanced take that I'm sure will still have Raps fans calling for my head is that Scottie has been great at a lot of things, very encouraging, and while I'm encouraged by the scoring flashes, I think he was playing well over his head as a scorer early in the year. He's still a great passer and team defender (though imo has a room to grow 1 on 1) but no one goes from being a 0 level scorer in college to a 3 level one in the NBA overnight

Which three rookies impress you the most? (vote for up to 3)