The Kings chose De'Aaron Fox over Tyrese Haliburton, which is somewhat reasonable. It was a mistake, but Fox was an all-star at least. Then, they trade De'Aaron Fox for Zach Lavine? They really dropped the ball.
Fox trade was terrible. If it wasn't for the Doncic trade, Sacramento would have gotten more heat for doing such an awful trade.
Woj: Domantas Sabonis, J. Lamb, J. Holiday Traded to Sacramento for Tyrese Haliburton, Buddy Hield, T. Thompson
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YogurtProducer wrote:scrabbarista wrote:I have placed my vote for Indiana.
I don’t know man, maybe we should give it some time.
Could be a matter of 24 hours until Haliburton is overrated, mediocre and washed on this board.
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brutalitops wrote:LightTheBeam wrote:It's funny that a good amount of Kings fans here on the boards, on twitter, etc.. Still think that this team should pursue a win now approach or that trading for LaVine was a good idea.
I went through stages with this trade. Initial was didn't love Sabonis, then understood making way for Fox to progress, but when you see what else the two teams did after the trade it just goes to show the difference in a great organization vs the most incompetent organization in all of sports.
Kings hired a clown coach
Kings then added Trey Lyles, Huerter, Sasha Vezenkov, Monk, Derozan, Keegan as the notable acquisitions. Of those, the only two that actually made sense were Keegan and Monk. So 2 players added in 3.5 years.
Pacers have a top 3 coach
Pacers then overhauled the roster nearly top to bottom. Nesmith, Nembhard, Siakam, Toppin, Mathurin, Sheppard, Walker.
One team decided to build around shooting, defense, length. The other team literally had no vision whatsoever. I said it the off-season after we won 48 games, extending Sabonis early, resigning Barnes, and wasting money on Sasha was a nail in the coffin. How they were satisfied after watching that GS series baffles me.
FIRE VIVEK, SELL THE TEAM
Always thought they traded the wrong PG at the time, I didn't think Haliburton would get here. I thought at best he might hit one All nba team, be a maybe an all star year by year, But yeah he crushed those expectations, Tell me he finishes his career as 2 time all nba player, gets to a conference finals once and then an NBA finals I go "yeah he accomplished what I think he could"
But he's 25 and an incredibly gifted PG who will still be able to influence games even if he loses a step of pace, He aint physically dominating, He's just one of the best PG's in the game of setting up team mates and has a great cast around him of Nembhard who can do it all, Siakam who again, jack of all trades, And Nesmith who if hes sharing the court with two of those guys, his lack of creativity really doesnt hinder the team at all
Giving up Hield and Haliburton (Yeah Hield was actively wanting out) to bring back nil shooting was pretty dumb as well (Somehow got Kevin and Monk in career years next season and amazingly replaced this by accident but still amazing)
Fox was better but Haliburton was a better fit in general to build on, and could still push the pace to go win now
it didn't work, But now your 3 best players are 30 and a core of Derozan/Sabonis/Lavine isnt doing much. Sabonis is a great player but almost untradable till 2026-2027.
I would be doing my best to try to sell Keegan Murray right now before you have to think of extending him if you are not going to sign him under 25M, Getting picks for Monk and/or sending Derozan out to a contender for free to get some space to potentially pick up an albatross contract for an asset or two, seeing if Lavine can be traded mid-season with the oppotunity to opt out and get a better deal somewhere else so you can get something, and just start the process from this year of getting a chance to pick up a good player.
I would like to move Sabonis/Derozan/Monk/JVal this summer. Keegan isn't fetching a whole lot, I mean if someone gave me great value sure, but otherwise I'd rather see what he can do without these other ball hogs around.
LaVine to me is damn near untradeable. I mean if we can dump him for expirings I'd take that in a heart beat.
Right now they should keep Carter, Keon, Keegan, and then look to go as young as possible around them. Start to try and build a real team. Keegan isn't the problem, hes being asked to guard the best player 1-4 every night. On offense they camp him in a corner while Monk, Sabonis, LaVine, DeRozan take turns playing iso ball. He's shown tons of flashes, just never been given a real opportunity.
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-Luke- wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:scrabbarista wrote:I have placed my vote for Indiana.
I don’t know man, maybe we should give it some time.
Could be a matter of 24 hours until Haliburton is overrated, mediocre and washed on this board.
Don't forget exposed!
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Re: Woj: Domantas Sabonis, J. Lamb, J. Holiday Traded to Sacramento for Tyrese Haliburton, Buddy Hield, T. Thompson
-Luke- wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:scrabbarista wrote:I have placed my vote for Indiana.
I don’t know man, maybe we should give it some time.
Could be a matter of 24 hours until Haliburton is overrated, mediocre and washed on this board.
And a few months until getting traded for a Draymond Green while healing from a hamstring injury.
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Duffman100 wrote:DroseReturnChi wrote:Duffman100 wrote:
Right now. Yea. In 3-4 years…
are you a fortune teller you can tell 100% hali is better than sabonis?
your making wild projections nothing is a guarantee in tihis league. and this is coming from pro hali before draft.
i will gladly explain why kings smashed this trade. they cant wait that many yrs for 1 guy and their best players are pg they were operating ineffective. they already got a deal way above sabonis worth not sure whats the complaint other than trading fox for sabonis and committing highway robbery.
I guess my wild projection was right
Literally anyone with half a brain should have been able to tell hali is a better player than sabonis even at the time the trade was made.
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Black Jack wrote:Stay strong Kings fans...you are building up karma points and one day you'll get your contending squad.
As a dubs fan losing Webber was devastating, never thought we'd recover from that. Then we got Curry and friends.
I think they are maxed out on karma points at this point
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ShootersShoot wrote:Duffman100 wrote:DroseReturnChi wrote:
are you a fortune teller you can tell 100% hali is better than sabonis?
your making wild projections nothing is a guarantee in tihis league. and this is coming from pro hali before draft.
i will gladly explain why kings smashed this trade. they cant wait that many yrs for 1 guy and their best players are pg they were operating ineffective. they already got a deal way above sabonis worth not sure whats the complaint other than trading fox for sabonis and committing highway robbery.
I guess my wild projection was right
Literally anyone with half a brain should have been able to tell hali is a better player than sabonis even at the time the trade was made.
I don’t think anyone quite expected a prime Nash type offensive game developing though
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Who cares?
Growup who ever dug this up.
Growup who ever dug this up.
