Tatum VS Luka

[floppymoose]

Swing and a miss. I'm not a Tatum "supporter". I'm a Warrior's fan evaluating two opponents.

[Bob8]

Swing and a miss. I'm not a Tatum "supporter". I'm a Warrior's fan evaluating two opponents.

You support Tatum in this thread, aren't you? But you're right, you aren't here to support Tatum, but bash Luka. Just another hater.

[HiDef]

Wasn't gonna deal with the fanboys and get in this thread but I can't take all the god damn winking faces

These playoffs, he has the same # of assists as Tatum, 5 more points on 10% lower TS%. Anyone who thinks Doncic didn't give those 5 points right back please @ me.

Tatum is a closer, Doncic does all his damage in the 1st and watches the game slip away. Doncic gets relentlessly attacked in the 4th because his conditioning is complete ass. Comparing him to Jordan when he hasn't taken his fitness seriously since he came into the league is so insanely disrespectful.

Tatum is better, Luka can make his argument when he gets his fat ass in shape.

[CodeBreaker]

Doncic does all his damage in the 1st and watches the game slip away.

You're describing Tatum right there lol

[SelfishPlayer]

Tatum is significantly better. Luka is overrated. Luka is going to be the next Carmello.... perennial all-star who never crosses the finish line. As a GSW fan, I'm much more concerned with Tatum than I was with Luka.

You're concerned with Tatum or Boston? It's obvious that Boston has much better team than Dallas.

I noticed very interesting thing. Luka's supporters are focusing on Luka. His game, his stats and his achievements. Nothing negative about Tatum. On the other hand, many Tatum supporters are bashing Luka rather than focusing on Tatum. Kinda sad actually.

Prime Carmelo was worse in everything in comparison to young Luka. Just stupid comparison with clear objective.

I always wondered, how moderators can afford trolling comments?

Luka supporters bash his teammates. Even you did it by crediting Boston by having a better team. Every team that Tatum plays on may continue to be better than whatever team Luka is on simply because Tatum doesn't play defenseless hero ball. Tatum makes for a better team even if it's not obvious in the win loss record. It's actual team basketball and not defenseless hero ball which is only beautiful to watch to Luka fans. Defenseless hero ball has never won an NBA championship.

[Luke Skyowner]

Doncic does all his damage in the 1st and watches the game slip away.

You're describing Tatum right there lol

Don't interrupt this magnus opus of a comedy, it's the act of "gonna put dem fanbois where they belong". He didn' t enter before cause it was long way in the making. Just enjoy!

[Bob8]

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Wasn't gonna deal with the fanboys and get in this thread but I can't take all the god damn winking faces

These playoffs, he has the same # of assists as Tatum, 5 more points on 10% lower TS%. Anyone who thinks Doncic didn't give those 5 points right back please @ me.

Tatum is a closer, Doncic does all his damage in the 1st and watches the game slip away. Doncic gets relentlessly attacked in the 4th because his conditioning is complete ass. Comparing him to Jordan when he hasn't taken his fitness seriously since he came into the league is so insanely disrespectful.

Tatum is better, Luka can make his argument when he gets his fat ass in shape.

Did you really round up assists, compare TS% in % of and compare avg. points? 3 different approaches for comparison in the same sentence? Maybe scoring 17% more, assisting 8% more and rebounding 50% more doesn't fit your narrative well enough? Shockingly enough, Luka avg. less TO and has 50% more steals.

I'm comparing Luka's playoffs numbers to Jordan's, because he's the only one close enough to be compared with. Jordan had even much less success in his playoffs early on and was considered like chucker, who is not winning anything. We all know how that ended.

[Bob8]

Tatum is significantly better. Luka is overrated. Luka is going to be the next Carmello.... perennial all-star who never crosses the finish line. As a GSW fan, I'm much more concerned with Tatum than I was with Luka.

You're concerned with Tatum or Boston? It's obvious that Boston has much better team than Dallas.

I noticed very interesting thing. Luka's supporters are focusing on Luka. His game, his stats and his achievements. Nothing negative about Tatum. On the other hand, many Tatum supporters are bashing Luka rather than focusing on Tatum. Kinda sad actually.

Prime Carmelo was worse in everything in comparison to young Luka. Just stupid comparison with clear objective.

I always wondered, how moderators can afford trolling comments?

Luka supporters bash his teammates. Even you did it by crediting Boston by having a better team. Every team that Tatum plays on may continue to be better than whatever team Luka is on simply because Tatum doesn't play defenseless hero ball. Tatum makes for a better team even if it's not obvious in the win loss record. It's actual team basketball and not defenseless hero ball which is only beautiful to watch to Luka fans. Defenseless hero ball has never won an NBA championship.

Boston has better team. This's the fact. Dallas made a gamble and missed with KP, has lost 2 FRP doing that and then had disastrous 2020 draft, consequently more or less all roster is composed by second rounders and undrafted players. They're what they are. I don't believe you seriously believe that Tatum could have won WCF with them. Btw. Dallas had more wins in RS and was 2:0 against Boston.

Did I sad one bashing comment about Tatum? No. Can you said that about majority of Tatum's supporters?

[Mavrelous]

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Wasn't gonna deal with the fanboys and get in this thread but I can't take all the god damn winking faces

These playoffs, he has the same # of assists as Tatum, 5 more points on 10% lower TS%. Anyone who thinks Doncic didn't give those 5 points right back please @ me.

Tatum is a closer, Doncic does all his damage in the 1st and watches the game slip away. Doncic gets relentlessly attacked in the 4th because his conditioning is complete ass. Comparing him to Jordan when he hasn't taken his fitness seriously since he came into the league is so insanely disrespectful.

Tatum is better, Luka can make his argument when he gets his fat ass in shape.

Did you really round up assists, compare TS% in % of and compare avg. points? 3 different approaches for comparison in the same sentence? Maybe scoring 17% more, assisting 8% more and rebounding 50% more doesn't fit your narrative well enough? Shockingly enough, Luka avg. less TO and has 50% more stills.

I'm comparing Luka's playoffs numbers to Jordan's, because he's the only one close enough to be compared with. Jordan had even much less success in his playoffs early on and was considered like chucker, who is not winning anything. We all know how that ended.

Luka has 57.7% and Tatum 58.9% while having equal eFG, reason is FT of course, no idea where he have up with 10%, maybe he meant 1%? And that's basically the only stat other than blocks these PO where Tatum is better than Luka, any other stat (raw stats and per36, PER, WS, ODBM, DBPM, etc...)
The thread is bizarre, with the usual suspects and some new ones.

[giberish]

Obviously different guys.

While Tatum has some playmaking skills, he's not a guy who can run an entire offense. More of a finisher. He also just can't maintain a huge usage rate. So he needs a PG to run an offense and more offense around him. Of course on a good team that's less of problem as you can't rely on one guy completely and win a title. Worse for a bad team as he needs more help, but probably easier to build a very good team around.

[Down3223]

Luka upside Harden comparison andTatum has a chance to be a 6’10 Kobe....uh Kobe over Harden 10 times out of the 10.

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[Bob8]

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Wasn't gonna deal with the fanboys and get in this thread but I can't take all the god damn winking faces

These playoffs, he has the same # of assists as Tatum, 5 more points on 10% lower TS%. Anyone who thinks Doncic didn't give those 5 points right back please @ me.

Tatum is a closer, Doncic does all his damage in the 1st and watches the game slip away. Doncic gets relentlessly attacked in the 4th because his conditioning is complete ass. Comparing him to Jordan when he hasn't taken his fitness seriously since he came into the league is so insanely disrespectful.

Tatum is better, Luka can make his argument when he gets his fat ass in shape.

Did you really round up assists, compare TS% in % of and compare avg. points? 3 different approaches for comparison in the same sentence? Maybe scoring 17% more, assisting 8% more and rebounding 50% more doesn't fit your narrative well enough? Shockingly enough, Luka avg. less TO and has 50% more stills.

I'm comparing Luka's playoffs numbers to Jordan's, because he's the only one close enough to be compared with. Jordan had even much less success in his playoffs early on and was considered like chucker, who is not winning anything. We all know how that ended.

Luka has 57.7% and Tatum 58.9% while having equal eFG, reason is FT of course, no idea where he have up with 10%, maybe he meant 1%? And that's basically the only stat other than blocks these PO where Tatum is better than Luka, any other stat (raw stats and per36, PER, WS, ODBM, DBPM, etc...)
The thread is bizarre, with the usual suspects and some new ones.

The most bizarre thing is that Luka had great stats and Mavs have massively overachieved. Nobody believed they can beat Suns. In previous playoffs, you could at least hold the first round exits against Luka. Not this year. Some people here are acting like only title would have been good enough. Rookie Luka with second rounders and undrafted players should have won against multiple max. players. He didn't, so who cares that he's only 23 years old, his ceiling are career losers Harden and Carmelo.

[TheWhiteMamba]

Tatum is significantly better. Luka is overrated. Luka is going to be the next Carmello.... perennial all-star who never crosses the finish line. As a GSW fan, I'm much more concerned with Tatum than I was with Luka.

Swap Doncic with Tatum and replay WCF... you really are more concerned about that series with Tatum, Brunson, Dinwiddie & co?

[SelfishPlayer]

You're concerned with Tatum or Boston? It's obvious that Boston has much better team than Dallas.

I noticed very interesting thing. Luka's supporters are focusing on Luka. His game, his stats and his achievements. Nothing negative about Tatum. On the other hand, many Tatum supporters are bashing Luka rather than focusing on Tatum. Kinda sad actually.

Prime Carmelo was worse in everything in comparison to young Luka. Just stupid comparison with clear objective.

I always wondered, how moderators can afford trolling comments?

Luka supporters bash his teammates. Even you did it by crediting Boston by having a better team. Every team that Tatum plays on may continue to be better than whatever team Luka is on simply because Tatum doesn't play defenseless hero ball. Tatum makes for a better team even if it's not obvious in the win loss record. It's actual team basketball and not defenseless hero ball which is only beautiful to watch to Luka fans. Defenseless hero ball has never won an NBA championship.

Boston has better team. This's the fact. Dallas made a gamble and missed with KP, has lost 2 FRP doing that and then had disastrous 2020 draft, consequently more or less all roster is composed by second rounders and undrafted players. They're what they are. I don't believe you seriously believe that Tatum could have won WCF with them. Btw. Dallas had more wins in RS and was 2:0 against Boston.

Did I sad one bashing comment about Tatum? No. Can you said that about majority of Tatum's supporters?

Porzingis averaged 20 and 9 while playing Luka Ball, but Luka fans call him a failure. Luka fans attack his teammates.

[Bob8]

Luka supporters bash his teammates. Even you did it by crediting Boston by having a better team. Every team that Tatum plays on may continue to be better than whatever team Luka is on simply because Tatum doesn't play defenseless hero ball. Tatum makes for a better team even if it's not obvious in the win loss record. It's actual team basketball and not defenseless hero ball which is only beautiful to watch to Luka fans. Defenseless hero ball has never won an NBA championship.

Boston has better team. This's the fact. Dallas made a gamble and missed with KP, has lost 2 FRP doing that and then had disastrous 2020 draft, consequently more or less all roster is composed by second rounders and undrafted players. They're what they are. I don't believe you seriously believe that Tatum could have won WCF with them. Btw. Dallas had more wins in RS and was 2:0 against Boston.

Did I sad one bashing comment about Tatum? No. Can you said that about majority of Tatum's supporters?

Porzingis averaged 20 and 9 while playing Luka Ball, but Luka fans call him a failure. Luka fans attack his teammates.

But he was a failure for a max. player. Always injured, not willing to play like real C, disastrous in last playoffs...Mavs had better record without him this year and surprisingly enough they made a run after trade.

[SelfishPlayer]

Boston has better team. This's the fact. Dallas made a gamble and missed with KP, has lost 2 FRP doing that and then had disastrous 2020 draft, consequently more or less all roster is composed by second rounders and undrafted players. They're what they are. I don't believe you seriously believe that Tatum could have won WCF with them. Btw. Dallas had more wins in RS and was 2:0 against Boston.

Did I sad one bashing comment about Tatum? No. Can you said that about majority of Tatum's supporters?

Porzingis averaged 20 and 9 while playing Luka Ball, but Luka fans call him a failure. Luka fans attack his teammates.

But he was a failure for a max. player. Always injured, not willing to play like real C, disastrous in last playoffs...Mavs had better record without him this year and surprisingly enough they made a run after trade.

He averaged two blocks one season for the Mavs. How much defense has Luka been playing?

[Bob8]

Porzingis averaged 20 and 9 while playing Luka Ball, but Luka fans call him a failure. Luka fans attack his teammates.

But he was a failure for a max. player. Always injured, not willing to play like real C, disastrous in last playoffs...Mavs had better record without him this year and surprisingly enough they made a run after trade.

He averaged two blocks one season for the Mavs. How much defense has Luka been playing?

Did you watched last playoffs? They had to play Boban beside him.

[SelfishPlayer]

But he was a failure for a max. player. Always injured, not willing to play like real C, disastrous in last playoffs...Mavs had better record without him this year and surprisingly enough they made a run after trade.

He averaged two blocks one season for the Mavs. How much defense has Luka been playing?

Did you watched last playoffs? They had to play Boban beside him.

This year Luka fans have a problem with the centers that won playoff games without Luka and that took the Mavs to the western conference finals. Sorry, Embiid and Jokic are taken...

[Bob8]

He averaged two blocks one season for the Mavs. How much defense has Luka been playing?

Did you watched last playoffs? They had to play Boban beside him.

This year Luka fans have a problem with the centers that won playoff games without Luka and that took the Mavs to the western conference finals. Sorry, Embiid and Jokic are taken...

You mean Powell with 2/3.

[srhcan]

Luka is a generational player, Tatum is not.