2016-17 Rookie Watch thread

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Who will make the All Rookie 1st Team?

Brogdon
100
19%
Brown
25
5%
Chriss
43
8%
Embiid
94
18%
Ferrell
5
1%
WILLY Hernangomez
36
7%
Hield
64
12%
Ingram
14
3%
Murray
39
7%
Saric
106
20%
 
Total votes: 526

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#741 » by jrob23 » Sat Jan 7, 2017 8:48 am

Jaylen Brown benched for the night when he got a steal than turned the ball over on a fastbreak..after a whopping 5 minutes. Brad Stevens is not the guy you want in charge of your rebuild. Danny better trade the house and get this coach a star because we could draft Fultz next year and he'd play 10 minutes a night. No thanks.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#742 » by Marcus » Sat Jan 7, 2017 9:24 am

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Dan Z wrote:Caris LaVert with 19 points tonight against the Cavs. How did he look?




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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#743 » by Chuck Everett » Sat Jan 7, 2017 9:27 am

jrob23 wrote:Jaylen Brown benched for the night when he got a steal than turned the ball over on a fastbreak..after a whopping 5 minutes. Brad Stevens is not the guy you want in charge of your rebuild. Danny better trade the house and get this coach a star because we could draft Fultz next year and he'd play 10 minutes a night. No thanks.


But that has nothing to do with whether or not Fultz or whoever it is can play and everything to do with having established vets who can play on the perimeter. If the Celtics draft a guard with the Nets pick, I would hope that the expectation isn't that the 19 year old rookie is going to get more minutes than Thomas, Bradley, Smart and Rozier. It's just not happening. Crowder isn't going to just concede minutes to a rookie wing either.

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#744 » by Kabookalu » Sat Jan 7, 2017 11:15 am

Coaches don't get rewarded for developing players, however they will get fired for losing games. I love seeing young guys play, but I can't blame coaches for favoring more experienced veterans over them.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#745 » by GimmeDat » Sat Jan 7, 2017 9:52 pm

Both LaVert and Whitehead were great draft picks by Brooklyn.

Yes, they've been in a position to get ample opportunity, but they also have great potential to turn in to solid, all around players.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#746 » by jrob23 » Sat Jan 7, 2017 11:24 pm

Choker wrote:Coaches don't get rewarded for developing players, however they will get fired for losing games. I love seeing young guys play, but I can't blame coaches for favoring more experienced veterans over them.


tell that to the coach of PHO, PHI, MN presently and OKC, GSW years back. The only difference between those rebuilding teams and the Celtics rebuilding team is that unlike their coaches, Brad refuses to tank. That potentially cost us Embid, Booker and Miles Turner over the past few years. So in lieu of drafting studs like that we got Smart and Rozier yay!!! So Danny went out and got some veterans via trade that makes it look like we are contenders but we're really not.

Nobody is beating CLE or GSW so what's the point of pretending? Why not get young guys like Brown minutes. It's not like he will cost them games that matter. We aren't winning it all anyway. IT is a stud so obviously Danny isn't going to draft a PG and if he did, Stevens wouldn't play him. But Crowder is average personified. We're talking about a guy who averages 13-5-2. He played 30 minutes last night and scored ZERO points. You telling me Brown should be playing 5 minutes like last night? Brad may be a good young coach, but he's absolutely the wrong guy to lead a rebuild. He's on record saying he wants no part of it. And for people who think this is business as usual for teams trying to win...OKC and MEM play multiple rookies more minutes than BOS does Brown.

He's the only coach I've ever seen stare down a rookie with disgust in his eyes and immediately bench him for the night because he turned the ball over on a fast break after he stole the ball. I actually haven't seen many coaches, even hard nosed angry coaches like Bill Cowher ever look at young guys with disgust. They get angry but it's a teaching moment. And if you read Brown's tweets after benchings like this you'd see that Brad has lost him. This kid, even if he eventually starts and makes an all star...is gone the moment he can get away. He's so over it. That's the danger you face when you are **** at developing young players. If you can't be bothered to coach them up then don't draft them in the first place.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#747 » by Kabookalu » Sun Jan 8, 2017 1:15 am

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Choker wrote:Coaches don't get rewarded for developing players, however they will get fired for losing games. I love seeing young guys play, but I can't blame coaches for favoring more experienced veterans over them.


tell that to the coach of PHO, PHI, MN presently and OKC, GSW years back. The only difference between those rebuilding teams and the Celtics rebuilding team is that unlike their coaches, Brad refuses to tank. That potentially cost us Embid, Booker and Miles Turner over the past few years. So in lieu of drafting studs like that we got Smart and Rozier yay!!! So Danny went out and got some veterans via trade that makes it look like we are contenders but we're really not.

Nobody is beating CLE or GSW so what's the point of pretending? Why not get young guys like Brown minutes. It's not like he will cost them games that matter. We aren't winning it all anyway. IT is a stud so obviously Danny isn't going to draft a PG and if he did, Stevens wouldn't play him. But Crowder is average personified. We're talking about a guy who averages 13-5-2. He played 30 minutes last night and scored ZERO points. You telling me Brown should be playing 5 minutes like last night? Brad may be a good young coach, but he's absolutely the wrong guy to lead a rebuild. He's on record saying he wants no part of it. And for people who think this is business as usual for teams trying to win...OKC and MEM play multiple rookies more minutes than BOS does Brown.

He's the only coach I've ever seen stare down a rookie with disgust in his eyes and immediately bench him for the night because he turned the ball over on a fast break after he stole the ball. I actually haven't seen many coaches, even hard nosed angry coaches like Bill Cowher ever look at young guys with disgust. They get angry but it's a teaching moment. And if you read Brown's tweets after benchings like this you'd see that Brad has lost him. This kid, even if he eventually starts and makes an all star...is gone the moment he can get away. He's so over it. That's the danger you face when you are **** at developing young players. If you can't be bothered to coach them up then don't draft them in the first place.


You seriously sound like every single fanbase regarding their coaches lol. I didn't say every single rookie deserves to be benched, but fans always think they have it out for their rookies.




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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#748 » by jrob23 » Sun Jan 8, 2017 4:08 am

Choker wrote:
jrob23 wrote:
Choker wrote:Coaches don't get rewarded for developing players, however they will get fired for losing games. I love seeing young guys play, but I can't blame coaches for favoring more experienced veterans over them.


tell that to the coach of PHO, PHI, MN presently and OKC, GSW years back. The only difference between those rebuilding teams and the Celtics rebuilding team is that unlike their coaches, Brad refuses to tank. That potentially cost us Embid, Booker and Miles Turner over the past few years. So in lieu of drafting studs like that we got Smart and Rozier yay!!! So Danny went out and got some veterans via trade that makes it look like we are contenders but we're really not.

Nobody is beating CLE or GSW so what's the point of pretending? Why not get young guys like Brown minutes. It's not like he will cost them games that matter. We aren't winning it all anyway. IT is a stud so obviously Danny isn't going to draft a PG and if he did, Stevens wouldn't play him. But Crowder is average personified. We're talking about a guy who averages 13-5-2. He played 30 minutes last night and scored ZERO points. You telling me Brown should be playing 5 minutes like last night? Brad may be a good young coach, but he's absolutely the wrong guy to lead a rebuild. He's on record saying he wants no part of it. And for people who think this is business as usual for teams trying to win...OKC and MEM play multiple rookies more minutes than BOS does Brown.

He's the only coach I've ever seen stare down a rookie with disgust in his eyes and immediately bench him for the night because he turned the ball over on a fast break after he stole the ball. I actually haven't seen many coaches, even hard nosed angry coaches like Bill Cowher ever look at young guys with disgust. They get angry but it's a teaching moment. And if you read Brown's tweets after benchings like this you'd see that Brad has lost him. This kid, even if he eventually starts and makes an all star...is gone the moment he can get away. He's so over it. That's the danger you face when you are **** at developing young players. If you can't be bothered to coach them up then don't draft them in the first place.


You seriously sound like every single fanbase regarding their coaches lol. I didn't say every single rookie deserves to be benched, but fans always think they have it out for their rookies.


ha ha ha you're probably right!!!
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

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Post#750 » by Zombiesonics » Sun Jan 8, 2017 8:08 pm

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Anybody who watches embiid sees how special the guy is. This is totally an okc esque scenario if they can get fultz/DSJ/Ball, we also all need to see simmons (he was awesome in SL).
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#751 » by Sixersftw » Sun Jan 8, 2017 8:16 pm

Zombiesonics wrote:
Anybody who watches embiid sees how special the guy is. This is totally an okc esque scenario if they can get fultz/DSJ/Ball, we also all need to see simmons (he was awesome in SL).


Lakers pick also gives them another pretty high bite at the Apple. Things are looking pretty solid.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#752 » by XtotheDeezy » Sun Jan 8, 2017 10:40 pm

What the hell is going on with Bembry? This guy was supposed to be a steal in the draft, but haven't heard much out of Atlanta? Too much talent in front of him in the rotation? Let's go, come on! DeAndre BEMBRY.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#753 » by yanuary » Mon Jan 9, 2017 4:39 am

Im so glad that Sixers not select Ingram. BI would be great.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#754 » by akhan786 » Mon Jan 9, 2017 5:02 am

Everything Ingram does is pretty.

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#755 » by yanuary » Mon Jan 9, 2017 8:33 am

Future is bright.

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#756 » by dreadhead_htx » Mon Jan 9, 2017 2:59 pm

bertan plays well almost every game in very limited minutes. He looks like he could be a sleeper if he stays healthy. hes a very stiff looking white guy but hes no stiff. his mobility and athleticism catch me off guard all the time. Could see the frustration in hibberts face when he blew past him for that second dunk attempt couple nights ago. he had that (Im not letting this skinny dude dunk on me face) :lol:
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Post#757 » by Lauri_Legend » Mon Jan 9, 2017 3:25 pm

None of which will be superstars besides possibly Embiid and/or Simmons.
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Post#758 » by skones » Mon Jan 9, 2017 3:45 pm



Steady as he goes.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#759 » by NormanDale » Mon Jan 9, 2017 4:28 pm

jrob23 wrote:
tell that to the coach of PHO, PHI, MN presently and OKC, GSW years back. The only difference between those rebuilding teams and the Celtics rebuilding team is that unlike their coaches, Brad refuses to tank.


Wait, are you really saying that the Celtics should be tanking this year?
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#760 » by gaspar » Mon Jan 9, 2017 6:07 pm



Chriss was pretty awesome during the Suns big run against the Cavs last night. Solid defense and very good decision making in transition. Game is clearly slowing down for Marquese. Fouls are trending down too.

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