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Magic was terrible at his job as we all know but I think more then anything why he quit and it apparent with what happened afterwards is he didn't have confidence in Luke or Pelinka. He also felt he was being scapegoated for transactions he approved but weren't his brainchild.
Clearly he lost faith in both Pelinka AND Luke but didn't want to oversee a complete reorganization of the FO so he threw up his hands and resigned instead. For all those who put all these bad moves on Magic (I've been guilty of this as well) Pelinka was GM.
Yet somehow he is the one walking away from all this smelling like a rose which to me is baffling.
Clearly he lost faith in both Pelinka AND Luke but didn't want to oversee a complete reorganization of the FO so he threw up his hands and resigned instead. For all those who put all these bad moves on Magic (I've been guilty of this as well) Pelinka was GM.
Yet somehow he is the one walking away from all this smelling like a rose which to me is baffling.
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Gus McCrae wrote:kombayn wrote:Gus McCrae wrote:If Ingram and Ball play full seasons we look much more attractive. The AD/tampering league blackballing the Lakers was probably too much for Magic. On record I think a healthy Lonzo is better than D-Lo. But yeah our front office has issues :/
Someone get their man's here and check to see if this man has dementia. Lonzo a better defender than D-Lo but D-Lo is above and beyond better all around player.
Lonzo is probably the best Pg defender in the league and is a better passer and rebounder than russell and requires way less usage.
If he ever gets healthy you’ll see.
Touche. But D-Lo can change a game through his offense, he's really coming into his own on the offensive side of the ball and the way the NBA is built now, it's in his favor not Lonzo's. We'll never speak of Lonzo's offensive output.
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Magic ran that franchise into the ground then bailed out lol.
Just thinking about all the good/great players he gave away that are currently enjoying the NBA Playoffs like Deangelo Russell, Brook Lopez, Zubac.
Just thinking about all the good/great players he gave away that are currently enjoying the NBA Playoffs like Deangelo Russell, Brook Lopez, Zubac.
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tundraknight wrote:Magic ran that franchise into the ground then bailed out lol.
Just thinking about all the good/great players he gave away that are currently enjoying the NBA Playoffs like Deangelo Russell, Brook Lopez, Zubac.
Was just thinking the same thing watching Russell play a key part in this win over Philly. They gave away the wrong guys, and they signed the wrong FAs including giving KCP two big single season deals just because he shares an agent with Lebron.
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Antinomy wrote:No-more-rings wrote:BodieB wrote:Good on Magic. That's why respect is due to the man.
Weird. If anything he loses a small amount of respect from me because all this shows is he can't handle the stress.
If he was a regular person like you or i, he strikes me as someone who would quit a job after 2 weeks or something because he doesn't like it.
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it. Doesn’t make you a bad person. Having confidence & self-preservation allows you do stuff like that. Unlike people who hate their jobs yet walk in every day & do nothing to change it.
Magic, after being there for about 2 years, realized the job wasn’t for him & bailed. Not only that, but he knew he didn’t NEED the position after he wasn’t allowed to make certain positions.
If you were incredibly wealthy & had a job you couldn’t stand doing, you’re telling me you just stick it out for no real reason? I don’t blame him.

You don't just get up and walk out of a position like that one day without telling anybody at all, let the head coach know afterwards via text message and then start publicly trying to mend fences with the owner on Twitter without even the decency of a personal meeting. That's an absolute clown move - it's the kind of stuff high school girls pull when they're tired of flipping burgers at the mall food court but are too scared or lazy to tell their manager face to face.
It sounds like Magic wasn't really competent at most of the day to day duties of the job anyway, though, so it's not surprising he'd display such a lack of professionalism and character with his decision to cut and run on the Lakers with no prior notice.
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mccluskey wrote:Antinomy wrote:No-more-rings wrote:Weird. If anything he loses a small amount of respect from me because all this shows is he can't handle the stress.
If he was a regular person like you or i, he strikes me as someone who would quit a job after 2 weeks or something because he doesn't like it.
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it. Doesn’t make you a bad person. Having confidence & self-preservation allows you do stuff like that. Unlike people who hate their jobs yet walk in every day & do nothing to change it.
Magic, after being there for about 2 years, realized the job wasn’t for him & bailed. Not only that, but he knew he didn’t NEED the position after he wasn’t allowed to make certain positions.
If you were incredibly wealthy & had a job you couldn’t stand doing, you’re telling me you just stick it out for no real reason? I don’t blame him.
we aren't talking about making sandwiches at Subway or working at a call center, guy, this is one of the most visible and important positions in big money sports and requires a certain standard of professional conduct. That doesn't mean you can't quit the job if it's not working out, but when you have a commitment to an organization at that level there are rules for how to bow out gracefully. At the very least he should have notified the owner and the other high level front office staff ahead of time to allow them to prepare a media response and work out an interim plan for running the team.
You don't just get up and walk out of a position like that one day without telling anybody at all, let the head coach know afterwards via text message and then start publicly trying to mend fences with the owner on Twitter without even the decency of a personal meeting. That's an absolute clown move - it's the kind of stuff high school girls pull when they're tired of flipping burgers at the mall food court but are too scared or lazy to tell their manager face to face.
It sounds like Magic wasn't really competent at most of the day to day duties of the job anyway, though, so it's not surprising he'd display such a lack of professionalism and character with his decision to cut and run on the Lakers with no prior notice.
You make a lot of assumptions about something you know so little about.
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People still talking about this dude?
Raul
“The other day I saw one of his games. He was running with the ball at a hundred per cent full speed, I don’t know how many touches he took, maybe five or six, but the ball was glued to his foot. It’s practically impossible.”
“The other day I saw one of his games. He was running with the ball at a hundred per cent full speed, I don’t know how many touches he took, maybe five or six, but the ball was glued to his foot. It’s practically impossible.”
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mccluskey wrote:Antinomy wrote:No-more-rings wrote:Weird. If anything he loses a small amount of respect from me because all this shows is he can't handle the stress.
If he was a regular person like you or i, he strikes me as someone who would quit a job after 2 weeks or something because he doesn't like it.
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it. Doesn’t make you a bad person. Having confidence & self-preservation allows you do stuff like that. Unlike people who hate their jobs yet walk in every day & do nothing to change it.
Magic, after being there for about 2 years, realized the job wasn’t for him & bailed. Not only that, but he knew he didn’t NEED the position after he wasn’t allowed to make certain positions.
If you were incredibly wealthy & had a job you couldn’t stand doing, you’re telling me you just stick it out for no real reason? I don’t blame him.
we aren't talking about making sandwiches at Subway or working at a call center, guy, this is one of the most visible and important positions in big money sports and requires a certain standard of professional conduct. That doesn't mean you can't quit the job if it's not working out, but when you have a commitment to an organization at that level there are rules for how to bow out gracefully. At the very least he should have notified the owner and the other high level front office staff ahead of time to allow them to prepare a media response and work out an interim plan for running the team.
You don't just get up and walk out of a position like that one day without telling anybody at all, let the head coach know afterwards via text message and then start publicly trying to mend fences with the owner on Twitter without even the decency of a personal meeting. That's an absolute clown move - it's the kind of stuff high school girls pull when they're tired of flipping burgers at the mall food court but are too scared or lazy to tell their manager face to face.
It sounds like Magic wasn't really competent at most of the day to day duties of the job anyway, though, so it's not surprising he'd display such a lack of professionalism and character with his decision to cut and run on the Lakers with no prior notice.
Exactly yeah.
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kombayn wrote:Gus McCrae wrote:kombayn wrote:
Someone get their man's here and check to see if this man has dementia. Lonzo a better defender than D-Lo but D-Lo is above and beyond better all around player.
Lonzo is probably the best Pg defender in the league and is a better passer and rebounder than russell and requires way less usage.
If he ever gets healthy you’ll see.
Touche. But D-Lo can change a game through his offense, he's really coming into his own on the offensive side of the ball and the way the NBA is built now, it's in his favor not Lonzo's. We'll never speak of Lonzo's offensive output.
Is playmaking and passing no longer considered part of the offense?
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Antinomy wrote:No-more-rings wrote:BodieB wrote:Good on Magic. That's why respect is due to the man.
Weird. If anything he loses a small amount of respect from me because all this shows is he can't handle the stress.
If he was a regular person like you or i, he strikes me as someone who would quit a job after 2 weeks or something because he doesn't like it.
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it. Doesn’t make you a bad person. Having confidence & self-preservation allows you do stuff like that. Unlike people who hate their jobs yet walk in every day & do nothing to change it.
Magic, after being there for about 2 years, realized the job wasn’t for him & bailed. Not only that, but he knew he didn’t NEED the position after he wasn’t allowed to make certain positions.
If you were incredibly wealthy & had a job you couldn’t stand doing, you’re telling me you just stick it out for no real reason? I don’t blame him.
With that mindset, why should anyone hire you? Leaving a job after one day is a MAJOR red flag.
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Antinomy wrote:No-more-rings wrote:BodieB wrote:Good on Magic. That's why respect is due to the man.
Weird. If anything he loses a small amount of respect from me because all this shows is he can't handle the stress.
If he was a regular person like you or i, he strikes me as someone who would quit a job after 2 weeks or something because he doesn't like it.
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it.
Weird flex
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mccluskey wrote:Antinomy wrote:No-more-rings wrote:Weird. If anything he loses a small amount of respect from me because all this shows is he can't handle the stress.
If he was a regular person like you or i, he strikes me as someone who would quit a job after 2 weeks or something because he doesn't like it.
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it. Doesn’t make you a bad person. Having confidence & self-preservation allows you do stuff like that. Unlike people who hate their jobs yet walk in every day & do nothing to change it.
Magic, after being there for about 2 years, realized the job wasn’t for him & bailed. Not only that, but he knew he didn’t NEED the position after he wasn’t allowed to make certain positions.
If you were incredibly wealthy & had a job you couldn’t stand doing, you’re telling me you just stick it out for no real reason? I don’t blame him.
we aren't talking about making sandwiches at Subway or working at a call center, guy, this is one of the most visible and important positions in big money sports and requires a certain standard of professional conduct. That doesn't mean you can't quit the job if it's not working out, but when you have a commitment to an organization at that level there are rules for how to bow out gracefully. At the very least he should have notified the owner and the other high level front office staff ahead of time to allow them to prepare a media response and work out an interim plan for running the team.
You don't just get up and walk out of a position like that one day without telling anybody at all, let the head coach know afterwards via text message and then start publicly trying to mend fences with the owner on Twitter without even the decency of a personal meeting. That's an absolute clown move - it's the kind of stuff high school girls pull when they're tired of flipping burgers at the mall food court but are too scared or lazy to tell their manager face to face.
It sounds like Magic wasn't really competent at most of the day to day duties of the job anyway, though, so it's not surprising he'd display such a lack of professionalism and character with his decision to cut and run on the Lakers with no prior notice.
Lol. But he just did though. Get off your high horse.
Fact is, when you have options in life, you can do whatever the hell you want to. Whether it’s “making sandwiches at subway” or deciding you don’t want to be the president of a large organization.
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NyKnicks1714 wrote:Antinomy wrote:No-more-rings wrote:Weird. If anything he loses a small amount of respect from me because all this shows is he can't handle the stress.
If he was a regular person like you or i, he strikes me as someone who would quit a job after 2 weeks or something because he doesn't like it.
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it.
Weird flex
You should try it. It’s very liberating.
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NY2k1 wrote:Antinomy wrote:No-more-rings wrote:Weird. If anything he loses a small amount of respect from me because all this shows is he can't handle the stress.
If he was a regular person like you or i, he strikes me as someone who would quit a job after 2 weeks or something because he doesn't like it.
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it. Doesn’t make you a bad person. Having confidence & self-preservation allows you do stuff like that. Unlike people who hate their jobs yet walk in every day & do nothing to change it.
Magic, after being there for about 2 years, realized the job wasn’t for him & bailed. Not only that, but he knew he didn’t NEED the position after he wasn’t allowed to make certain positions.
If you were incredibly wealthy & had a job you couldn’t stand doing, you’re telling me you just stick it out for no real reason? I don’t blame him.
With that mindset, why should anyone hire you? Leaving a job after one day is a MAJOR red flag.
What do you mean? If I quit a job on the first day (or in the first 3 months), I never put it on my resume or even mention it to potential employers.
You must be one of those people who thought your permanent record in school was real

It’s like dating. If you went out a woman & realized she wasn’t what you were looking for, why would you continue wasting time with her afterwards?
Jobs will cut your ass in second if it helps their bottom line. I work for myself now but I’ve seen it happen to tons of people.
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Antinomy wrote:mccluskey wrote:Antinomy wrote:
Lol. I’ve left jobs on the first day because I didn’t like it. Doesn’t make you a bad person. Having confidence & self-preservation allows you do stuff like that. Unlike people who hate their jobs yet walk in every day & do nothing to change it.
Magic, after being there for about 2 years, realized the job wasn’t for him & bailed. Not only that, but he knew he didn’t NEED the position after he wasn’t allowed to make certain positions.
If you were incredibly wealthy & had a job you couldn’t stand doing, you’re telling me you just stick it out for no real reason? I don’t blame him.
we aren't talking about making sandwiches at Subway or working at a call center, guy, this is one of the most visible and important positions in big money sports and requires a certain standard of professional conduct. That doesn't mean you can't quit the job if it's not working out, but when you have a commitment to an organization at that level there are rules for how to bow out gracefully. At the very least he should have notified the owner and the other high level front office staff ahead of time to allow them to prepare a media response and work out an interim plan for running the team.
You don't just get up and walk out of a position like that one day without telling anybody at all, let the head coach know afterwards via text message and then start publicly trying to mend fences with the owner on Twitter without even the decency of a personal meeting. That's an absolute clown move - it's the kind of stuff high school girls pull when they're tired of flipping burgers at the mall food court but are too scared or lazy to tell their manager face to face.
It sounds like Magic wasn't really competent at most of the day to day duties of the job anyway, though, so it's not surprising he'd display such a lack of professionalism and character with his decision to cut and run on the Lakers with no prior notice.
Lol. But he just did though. Get off your high horse.
Fact is, when you have options in life, you can do whatever the hell you want to. Whether it’s “making sandwiches at subway” or deciding you don’t want to be the president of a large organization.
"high horse"

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mccluskey wrote:Antinomy wrote:mccluskey wrote:
we aren't talking about making sandwiches at Subway or working at a call center, guy, this is one of the most visible and important positions in big money sports and requires a certain standard of professional conduct. That doesn't mean you can't quit the job if it's not working out, but when you have a commitment to an organization at that level there are rules for how to bow out gracefully. At the very least he should have notified the owner and the other high level front office staff ahead of time to allow them to prepare a media response and work out an interim plan for running the team.
You don't just get up and walk out of a position like that one day without telling anybody at all, let the head coach know afterwards via text message and then start publicly trying to mend fences with the owner on Twitter without even the decency of a personal meeting. That's an absolute clown move - it's the kind of stuff high school girls pull when they're tired of flipping burgers at the mall food court but are too scared or lazy to tell their manager face to face.
It sounds like Magic wasn't really competent at most of the day to day duties of the job anyway, though, so it's not surprising he'd display such a lack of professionalism and character with his decision to cut and run on the Lakers with no prior notice.
Lol. But he just did though. Get off your high horse.
Fact is, when you have options in life, you can do whatever the hell you want to. Whether it’s “making sandwiches at subway” or deciding you don’t want to be the president of a large organization.
"high horse"when someone's work experience consists of the type of jobs where people routinely walk out on day one, it's gonna be tough to comprehend the kind of professionalism required for an executive position.
More assumptions by you

Don’t get so worked up. I’m doing just fine for myself. Thanks for worrying.
But please, do tell me about the amount of professionalism you needed for that executive position you have.
Since you most likely don’t have one, you don’t know a damn thing. All theoretical bullsh*t.
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Antinomy wrote:mccluskey wrote:Antinomy wrote:
Lol. But he just did though. Get off your high horse.
Fact is, when you have options in life, you can do whatever the hell you want to. Whether it’s “making sandwiches at subway” or deciding you don’t want to be the president of a large organization.
"high horse"when someone's work experience consists of the type of jobs where people routinely walk out on day one, it's gonna be tough to comprehend the kind of professionalism required for an executive position.
More assumptions by you
Don’t get so worked up. I’m doing just fine for myself. Thanks for worrying.
But please, do tell me about the amount of professionalism you needed for that executive position you have.
Since you most likely don’t have one, you don’t know a damn thing. All theoretical bullsh*t.

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mccluskey wrote:Antinomy wrote:mccluskey wrote:
"high horse"when someone's work experience consists of the type of jobs where people routinely walk out on day one, it's gonna be tough to comprehend the kind of professionalism required for an executive position.
More assumptions by you
Don’t get so worked up. I’m doing just fine for myself. Thanks for worrying.
But please, do tell me about the amount of professionalism you needed for that executive position you have.
Since you most likely don’t have one, you don’t know a damn thing. All theoretical bullsh*t.
you said something dumb and got called out on it, it's not that big of a deal man.
What did I say that was dumb? I simply spoke my truth.
You’re the one speaking on a ton of things you have absolutely zero experience in & no real clue about

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That's enough. Back on topic.
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tundraknight wrote:Magic ran that franchise into the ground then bailed out lol.
Just thinking about all the good/great players he gave away that are currently enjoying the NBA Playoffs like Deangelo Russell, Brook Lopez, Zubac.
This post is not good
Cheers.
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