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Post#761 » by ILikeLollies » Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:40 pm

Lalouie wrote:a few weeks ago windhorst's pod did a wemby special. you can still catch it of course

specifically they were talking about the trainers surrounding wemb and all the routines he goes through to strengthen his body as it relates to physical stress,,,and also any weaknesses his body has displayed. also, of course, they are training him to be elite in the game

ummm, to be honest it sounded a whole lot like todd marinovich and his dad. not what they're doing per se, but how devoted they are to elevating his game


And Barcelona put Messi on a course of steroids. **** works out sometimes.
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Post#762 » by Ruma85 » Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:52 pm

ILikeLollies wrote:
Lalouie wrote:a few weeks ago windhorst's pod did a wemby special. you can still catch it of course

specifically they were talking about the trainers surrounding wemb and all the routines he goes through to strengthen his body as it relates to physical stress,,,and also any weaknesses his body has displayed. also, of course, they are training him to be elite in the game

ummm, to be honest it sounded a whole lot like todd marinovich and his dad. not what they're doing per se, but how devoted they are to elevating his game


And Barcelona put Messi on a course of steroids. **** works out sometimes.


Huh??
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Post#763 » by JJ_PR » Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:13 pm

The draft lottery is going to be hilarious. I can't wait to see the faces of the representatives who barely miss out on the first pick.
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Post#764 » by remi_222 » Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:54 am

Ruma85 wrote:
ILikeLollies wrote:
Lalouie wrote:a few weeks ago windhorst's pod did a wemby special. you can still catch it of course

specifically they were talking about the trainers surrounding wemb and all the routines he goes through to strengthen his body as it relates to physical stress,,,and also any weaknesses his body has displayed. also, of course, they are training him to be elite in the game

ummm, to be honest it sounded a whole lot like todd marinovich and his dad. not what they're doing per se, but how devoted they are to elevating his game


And Barcelona put Messi on a course of steroids. **** works out sometimes.


Huh??


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1492546-lionel-messi-and-hgh-the-truth-about-the-best-footballer-in-the-world

Not for the same reason obviously
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Post#765 » by Lalouie » Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:15 am

remi_222 wrote:
Ruma85 wrote:
ILikeLollies wrote:
And Barcelona put Messi on a course of steroids. **** works out sometimes.


Huh??


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1492546-lionel-messi-and-hgh-the-truth-about-the-best-footballer-in-the-world

Not for the same reason obviously


i was just reminded of the precautions marinovich's dad went thru to prepare his son when i heard about wemby's entourage
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Post#766 » by moderndarwin » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:19 am

so anything new with him these days? feel like the hype train was slowed down significantly whereas with american prospects usually it’s exploding at this time due to the Madness
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Post#767 » by Gordon » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:54 am

He is down to 46.7% FG and 29.9% 3FG against inferior competition. He is much closer to Porzingis type of player, then someone who is going to be a generational player.
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Post#768 » by VDT » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:28 am

I havent really watched him so i may be completely off, but his body type scares me and not just because of the potential injury concerns.

He has the frame of Porzinghis which is ok for blocking shots and maybe shooting over opponents but he is never going to be a dynamic scorer because it is very hard to see him putting the ball on the floor or using his height to dominate in the paint. So a Porzinghis type or even somewhat better is ok but not all that much in the grand scheme of things, especially when factoring in the injury concerns.
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Post#769 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:08 pm

Gordon wrote:He is down to 46.7% FG and 29.9% 3FG against inferior competition. He is much closer to Porzingis type of player, then someone who is going to be a generational player.

I got kinda mobbed a couple of pages back for saying he's everything except a good shooter, but I'll let you guys make up your own mind next year.
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Post#770 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:36 pm

Gordon wrote:He is down to 46.7% FG and 29.9% 3FG against inferior competition. He is much closer to Porzingis type of player, then someone who is going to be a generational player.


His defensive talent is generational. And his shot form is tremendous for his size. He will get better with him. He is taking alot of pretty stupid / highly difficult long 2's and 3's.
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Post#771 » by UcanUwill » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:58 pm

VDT wrote:I havent really watched him so i may be completely off, but his body type scares me and not just because of the potential injury concerns.

He has the frame of Porzinghis which is ok for blocking shots and maybe shooting over opponents but he is never going to be a dynamic scorer because it is very hard to see him putting the ball on the floor or using his height to dominate in the paint. So a Porzinghis type or even somewhat better is ok but not all that much in the grand scheme of things, especially when factoring in the injury concerns.


He just turned 19, and his body and athleticism improvement just from 2 years ago is very noticeable.
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Post#772 » by UcanUwill » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:23 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
Gordon wrote:He is down to 46.7% FG and 29.9% 3FG against inferior competition. He is much closer to Porzingis type of player, then someone who is going to be a generational player.

I got kinda mobbed a couple of pages back for saying he's everything except a good shooter, but I'll let you guys make up your own mind next year.


Inferior competition is indeed inferior, but thats in my opinion the wrong point to go. Maybe I will be wrong, but Wemby looks like one of those guys with obvious NBA talent, where scoring will only be easier for him in the NBA rather than Europe. No, his 3 point shooting wont automatically get better, it might be brutal at first, but him in wider open court, with no lumbering centers who camp and 2-3 zone with no defensive 3 seconds, who will contain this guy? He is one of those guys, whose numbers should go up in the NBA from day one, NBA is stronger, but it doesnt mean everyones numbers will automaticall decrease, it doesnt work that way. Like guess what, put current Doncic back in Spain right now, his numbers would decrease, if you think he is 30 ppg NBA scorer, so he would be 40 ppg. socrer, or more efficient at least, it doesnt work that way.

Porzingis as 20 year old, averaged 10.8 points in Sevilla, 47 FG%, 31 3PT%. And he was a top 5 pick and kind off an NBA star from day one.
Wemby as 19 year old, 21.5 ppg, 9+ rpg, 3+ bpg. I dont think you people realize how ridiculous this guy is. He was hyped beyond belief last year when he average 5 points on 32 FG%, just because his tools are beyond belief. Now he completely shattering competition, mostly 6-10 year older than him, come on people, if he also had Jokic percentages, you could put him in a hall already. He is 19, he is already looks like NBA ready to say the least, but he suppose to be a project, he was a project all his life and people still drooled over him, now he is putting Doncic to shame, and people complain that he just has flaws in his game now, you realize how high the bar got? Matas Buzelis is only 9 months younger, and he is in damn Christian highscool playing 10th graders, and people hyping him now as number 1 pick next year, Wemby is putting 21/9/3 in one of the better professional leagues in the world.

No, this guy is not Porzingis as prospect, he could end up no better than Porzingis, because Porzingis probably overachieved before injuries, and if everything goes wrong for Wemby, who the hell knows, but as a prospect, as a potential guy, he is way better than Porzingis, its not even a conversation. Wemby is absolute beast on both ends, Porzingis was a corner specialist. I mean bless all the socuts that saw Porzingis' potential to be more than that in more open, faster NBA setting, but naw man, Wemby has all timer potential, this is just not the same.

I think Porzingis proved that with insane height, good jumper and great speed and coordination for the size, you can be NBA star, Now Wemby, has all that, maybe minus the jumper 20+ feet out, but he also has handle, he was inside game, he has DPOY level defense, he has passing, he has more fearsome above the rim game and he wants it more.
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Post#773 » by VDT » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
VDT wrote:I havent really watched him so i may be completely off, but his body type scares me and not just because of the potential injury concerns.

He has the frame of Porzinghis which is ok for blocking shots and maybe shooting over opponents but he is never going to be a dynamic scorer because it is very hard to see him putting the ball on the floor or using his height to dominate in the paint. So a Porzinghis type or even somewhat better is ok but not all that much in the grand scheme of things, especially when factoring in the injury concerns.


He just turned 19, and his body and athleticism improvement just from 2 years ago is very noticeable.


He has a very long and narrow frame, even if he tries to build some muscle he will never become a dominant force in the paint, just like Porzinghis. Again, i dont see how he becomes a dynamic scorer. It is unlikely that he is going to be a low post force and i am not sure how he can put the ball on the floor and have a more wing-like game. Durant and Giannis have been able to do it but they are several inches shorter. That's not to say that he is not going to be good but if he cant be a go to scorer, this puts a certain ceiling on his potential.
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Post#774 » by Bum Adebayo » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:06 pm

VDT wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
VDT wrote:I havent really watched him so i may be completely off, but his body type scares me and not just because of the potential injury concerns.

He has the frame of Porzinghis which is ok for blocking shots and maybe shooting over opponents but he is never going to be a dynamic scorer because it is very hard to see him putting the ball on the floor or using his height to dominate in the paint. So a Porzinghis type or even somewhat better is ok but not all that much in the grand scheme of things, especially when factoring in the injury concerns.


He just turned 19, and his body and athleticism improvement just from 2 years ago is very noticeable.


He has a very long and narrow frame, even if he tries to build some muscle he will never become a dominant force in the paint, just like Porzinghis. Again, i dont see how he becomes a dynamic scorer. It is unlikely that he is going to be a low post force and i am not sure how he can put the ball on the floor and have a more wing-like game. Durant and Giannis have been able to do it but they are several inches shorter. That's not to say that he is not going to be good but if he cant be a go to scorer, this puts a certain ceiling on his potential.


He won't be playing back to the basket that's for sure, he will have to improve his midrange and face-up game, because it looks like he won't be that good of a 3pt shooter I think, maybe Embiid level at best, which of course is not that good, but will at least be able to be a shot maker from 3 from what I think instead of just being able to shoot when unguarded, dude has the footwork to do it.
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Post#775 » by sisibilio » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:42 pm

ILikeLollies wrote:
Lalouie wrote:a few weeks ago windhorst's pod did a wemby special. you can still catch it of course

specifically they were talking about the trainers surrounding wemb and all the routines he goes through to strengthen his body as it relates to physical stress,,,and also any weaknesses his body has displayed. also, of course, they are training him to be elite in the game

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And Barcelona put Messi on a course of steroids. **** works out sometimes.

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Post#776 » by zimpy27 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:59 pm

Gordon wrote:He is down to 46.7% FG and 29.9% 3FG against inferior competition. He is much closer to Porzingis type of player, then someone who is going to be a generational player.


He is pre-ACL porzingis with better defense potential.

I think that is close to generational.

He's not the guy to take over a game offensively for his team to get them buckets down the stretch. He can be that guy on defense.
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Post#777 » by moderndarwin » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:12 am

He can be the next Kareem - just that chance means he’s got the generational tag if that’s a possibility
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Post#778 » by sisibilio » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:02 am

zimpy27 wrote:
He is pre-ACL porzingis with better defense potential.

He's way better creating offense than Porzingis ever was, and a much more adept passer.
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Post#779 » by KokoKaizer » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:18 pm

Gordon wrote:He is down to 46.7% FG and 29.9% 3FG against inferior competition. He is much closer to Porzingis type of player, then someone who is going to be a generational player.


I hope you don't think NCAA is better :lol:
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Post#780 » by sfernald » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:27 pm

I have had this feeling that our lives are like circles that repeat over and over. Maybe 5 hundred trillion years between repeating our lives, but does the amount of time really matter? So considering this, have you ever had this weird premonition that something has happened before and you remember it so well last time you lived that you can't forget it in this life?

For some reason, I think Amen Thompson is going to be the next great player. We are talking about the next Jordan but even better and breaking all the records in the book? We will all be in for a show.. Is this possible or am I just losing it?

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