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hagredionis wrote:NZB2323 wrote:hagredionis wrote:
The award is called "most valuable player" not "leader of advanced stats". Nobody ever had a +33ppg, +9.2 rpg, +9.8 apg season before. Ever. In the history of the NBA.
Has anyone ever had a 26.5 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 9.0 apg, 65 TS% season before?
The answer is yes. Oscar had a better season with 30.8 / 12.5 / 11.4
Thaddy wrote:I can tell you right now the Bulls will collapse by mid season and will be fighting in or for the play in.
Remember it.
hagredionis wrote:NZB2323 wrote:Petergrifindor wrote:
Those numbers speak for themselves.
Clear MVP.
If you want to talk about numbers, Jokic is 1st in PER, Win Shares, BPM, and VORP.
Luka is 4th, 5th, 2nd and 2nd in those categories. Luka had a great season, might win it all, and could win MVP next year, but this year the MVP goes to Jokic.
The award is called "most valuable player" not "leader of advanced stats". Nobody ever had a +33ppg, +9.2 rpg, +9.8 apg season before. Ever. In the history of the NBA.
AleksandarN wrote:hagredionis wrote:NZB2323 wrote:
If you want to talk about numbers, Jokic is 1st in PER, Win Shares, BPM, and VORP.
Luka is 4th, 5th, 2nd and 2nd in those categories. Luka had a great season, might win it all, and could win MVP next year, but this year the MVP goes to Jokic.
The award is called "most valuable player" not "leader of advanced stats". Nobody ever had a +33ppg, +9.2 rpg, +9.8 apg season before. Ever. In the history of the NBA.
The award is not called leader of pts rebs and assists. Your reply is pretty limited in intellectual content and reasoning
Mr B wrote:NZB2323 wrote:Petergrifindor wrote:
Those numbers speak for themselves.
Clear MVP.
If you want to talk about numbers, Jokic is 1st in PER, Win Shares, BPM, and VORP.
Luka is 4th, 5th, 2nd and 2nd in those categories. Luka had a great season, might win it all, and could win MVP next year, but this year the MVP goes to Jokic.
Luka leads in points and assists. Luka leads in actual production as opposed to would have, could have, should have stats.
AleksandarN wrote:hagredionis wrote:NZB2323 wrote:
If you want to talk about numbers, Jokic is 1st in PER, Win Shares, BPM, and VORP.
Luka is 4th, 5th, 2nd and 2nd in those categories. Luka had a great season, might win it all, and could win MVP next year, but this year the MVP goes to Jokic.
The award is called "most valuable player" not "leader of advanced stats". Nobody ever had a +33ppg, +9.2 rpg, +9.8 apg season before. Ever. In the history of the NBA.
The award is not called leader of pts rebs and assists. Your reply is pretty limited in intellectual content and reasoning
hagredionis wrote:AleksandarN wrote:hagredionis wrote:
The award is called "most valuable player" not "leader of advanced stats". Nobody ever had a +33ppg, +9.2 rpg, +9.8 apg season before. Ever. In the history of the NBA.
The award is not called leader of pts rebs and assists. Your reply is pretty limited in intellectual content and reasoning
I already explained numerous times that you can't compare the advanced stats of a center to a pg. btw please avoid personal attacks.
hagredionis wrote:AleksandarN wrote:hagredionis wrote:
The award is called "most valuable player" not "leader of advanced stats". Nobody ever had a +33ppg, +9.2 rpg, +9.8 apg season before. Ever. In the history of the NBA.
The award is not called leader of pts rebs and assists. Your reply is pretty limited in intellectual content and reasoning
I already explained numerous times that you can't compare the advanced stats of a center to a pg. btw please avoid personal attacks.
Thaddy wrote:I can tell you right now the Bulls will collapse by mid season and will be fighting in or for the play in.
Remember it.
Mr B wrote:NZB2323 wrote:Petergrifindor wrote:
Those numbers speak for themselves.
Clear MVP.
If you want to talk about numbers, Jokic is 1st in PER, Win Shares, BPM, and VORP.
Luka is 4th, 5th, 2nd and 2nd in those categories. Luka had a great season, might win it all, and could win MVP next year, but this year the MVP goes to Jokic.
Luka leads in points and assists. Luka leads in actual production as opposed to would have, could have, should have stats.
CobraCommander wrote:Jokic again - good season all-
Can’t wait to see who wins the ring
Mrakar wrote:Can anyone find "grenade" stats as who throws the ball to teammate in impossible situations. Jokic takes all the bad shots at the end of shotclock for Denver, and i mean ALL. Not sure the others are doing the same.
Bob8 wrote:Mrakar wrote:Can anyone find "grenade" stats as who throws the ball to teammate in impossible situations. Jokic takes all the bad shots at the end of shotclock for Denver, and i mean ALL. Not sure the others are doing the same.
You might check quality of shots and how many are assisted between Luka and Jokic. You're right the difference is enormous.
Jokic 59.6% FGM assisted, Luka 22% FGM assisted.
Jokic 80.7% 3PM assisted, Luka 29.9% 3PM assisted.
Maybe people will now understand why Jokic is a little more efficient .
Mrakar wrote:Bob8 wrote:Mrakar wrote:Can anyone find "grenade" stats as who throws the ball to teammate in impossible situations. Jokic takes all the bad shots at the end of shotclock for Denver, and i mean ALL. Not sure the others are doing the same.
You might check quality of shots and how many are assisted between Luka and Jokic. You're right the difference is enormous.
Jokic 59.6% FGM assisted, Luka 22% FGM assisted.
Jokic 80.7% 3PM assisted, Luka 29.9% 3PM assisted.
Maybe people will now understand why Jokic is a little more efficient .
Because he doesn't let the ball stick, that is why are they so good.
Bob8 wrote:Mrakar wrote:Bob8 wrote:
You might check quality of shots and how many are assisted between Luka and Jokic. You're right the difference is enormous.
Jokic 59.6% FGM assisted, Luka 22% FGM assisted.
Jokic 80.7% 3PM assisted, Luka 29.9% 3PM assisted.
Maybe people will now understand why Jokic is a little more efficient .
Because he doesn't let the ball stick, that is why are they so good.
You mean 3rd and Mavs 5th?
Bob8 wrote:Mrakar wrote:Bob8 wrote:
You might check quality of shots and how many are assisted between Luka and Jokic. You're right the difference is enormous.
Jokic 59.6% FGM assisted, Luka 22% FGM assisted.
Jokic 80.7% 3PM assisted, Luka 29.9% 3PM assisted.
Maybe people will now understand why Jokic is a little more efficient .
Because he doesn't let the ball stick, that is why are they so good.
You mean 3rd and Mavs 5th?
Crunch 99 wrote:He's got no real chance to win, but bettors are giving Brunson some recognition, moving him to number four in the MVP race. If the Bucks, who are playing without Giannis, lose today and the Knicks win, the Knicks finish second in the East. That would be an impressive finish considering they've played most of their games since the All Star break without 3/5 of their starting lineup, including zero games with second leading scorer Julius Randle.