am i the only one that is not impressed by kobes 40 point

markjay · Post #81 » by **markjay** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:44 am

KB8MVP wrote:
They have played a very soft schedule so far to boot.

The Lakers rank 10th in SOS. That's above teams like Miami, Dallas, Chicago and San Antonio.

Don't confuse him with facts.

ecnirp · Post #82 » by **ecnirp** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:45 am

MitchellUK wrote:
IG2 wrote:He's a Top 3 player in the league along with Rose and Durant, but there's nothing more contrived than jacking up 30+ shots to achieve 40 points against cupcake defensive teams.

Subtle.

Ahhh...Did he think he could fool a Corleone?

RocketPower23 · Post #83 » by **RocketPower23** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:45 am

bballcool34 wrote:I'm impressed, but it seems a little odd that the Lakers are playing this way since it's basically counter to how they should play in the playoffs to win.

Bryant knows this btw, he doesn't tend to go as crazy in the playoffs, but yet he insists on carrying out these shooting sprees at various, odd times in his career.

I'll worry if this trend continues as the season goes on. The Laker defense is good, but the offense has to be functioning. And even though I'm not a fan of Kobe taking as many shots as he has been, the team shooting has been pretty poor thus far. I'm hopeful the Lakers can a move or two, bring in a decision maker and shooter to strengthen the team. I'm more concerned with Kobe's minutes to be honest. He knows his body though, hopefully he doesn't overextend himself.

KB24TBOTB · Post #84 » by **KB24TBOTB** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:46 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:Kobe was shooting well over 50% in this game and in fact his shooting actually helped the Cavs keep the game close. The real advantage that the Lakers had was inside where Bynum was abusing the defense.

Talk about a hater lol. If you watched the game the Cavs went on that 8-0 run when Kobe was out of the game so I don't really know how he could possibly be shooting while being on the bench. Some people just act so arrogant at times :roll:

doremi · Post #85 » by **doremi** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:47 am

fart wrote:If you watched tonight's game, you'll notice the lakers offensive execution was awful. Every play was Kobe shooting a contested shot. This offense is going to be the end of them come playoff time.

Edit: Also Bynum started the first quarter on fire, and he had 4 more shot attempts the rest of the game. WTF?

9-14 in the first half. OMG STOP SHOOTING!

Post #86 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:48 am

See this is where you are making a mistake. I said nothing about Kobe being on the floor. I didn't say take him out the game. Have him in the game and feed the bigs is when they play the best.

Ghosttown · Post #87 » by **Ghosttown** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:48 am

markjay wrote:Michael Jordan's career average: 1.316 points per field goal attempt
Kobe Bryant tonight: 1.355 points per field goal attempt

Yeah, Kobe's playing great.

KB8MVP wrote:A TS% of 59 is pretty good.

KiDeezy wrote:Now if they LOSE those games, everyone has every right to hate on Kobe. But they have WON those 3 games where he scored 40+, and wins are what matters.

And for the heck of it, here are some of MJ's games at age 33:

36 point on 34 shots: http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 40NJN.html

36 points on 31 shots: http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 90NYK.html

44 points on 32 shots: http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 30UTA.html

But was anyone on Michael's sack? Nah MJ's still the GOAT

ComboGuardCity wrote:not impressed because he's not shooting efficiently? You do realize the highest team TS% in the league is 57% and Kobe is near 59%? That means Kobe can't take enough shots.

chubby_1_kenobi wrote:
IG2 wrote:
D Nice wrote:I guess people didn't see how god-awful the Lakers offense was when Kobe was on the bench tonight. Especially in the 4th.

Uhh, you think that might have something to do with the unprecedented level of chucking on Kobe's part? How's the rest of the team supposed get in rhythm?

LA's offense ranks a mediocre 13th this year, and likely to get worse after tonight's game. How's a core of Kobe/Bynum/Gasol + floor spacers in Barnes/Blake/Fisher/Kapono so mediocre offensively? They have played a very soft schedule so far to boot.

LAL's team assists tonight: 30
Heat's team assists tonight: 19

How'd that happen?

KB8MVP wrote:
They have played a very soft schedule so far to boot.

The Lakers rank 10th in SOS. That's above teams like Miami, Dallas, Chicago and San Antonio.

I love how people love to post stats that diminish Kobe or provide reasoning why his feats aren't impressive but fail to reply to (let alone acknowledge) posts that are contrary to what they say or beleive.

chubby_1_kenobi · Post #88 » by **chubby_1_kenobi** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:49 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:See this is where you are making a mistake. I said nothing about Kobe being on the floor. I didn't say take him out the game. Have him in the game and feed the bigs is when they play the best.

And when the defense collapse on the bigs?

BattleTested · Post #89 » by **BattleTested** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:49 am

bballcool34 wrote:I'm impressed, but it seems a little odd that the Lakers are playing this way since it's basically counter to how they should play in the playoffs to win.

Bryant knows this btw, he doesn't tend to go as crazy in the playoffs, but yet he insists on carrying out these shooting sprees at various, odd times in his career.

Nothing various or odd about them at all. The 9 straight 40+ games were during a Shaq injury when the team was garbage 3 through 12. The 35 PPG season was endorsed by Phil, because the team really had no one besides a wildly inconsistent Lamar Odom who could create any offense. The 4 straight 50 point games came after a 6 game losing streak. Kobe's come out shooting this year because it's a new system and the team is still getting its bearings. Plus I think he's pissed about the Paul trade and losing Lamar and the divorce.

KB24TBOTB · Post #90 » by **KB24TBOTB** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:50 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:See this is where you are making a mistake. I said nothing about Kobe being on the floor. I didn't say take him out the game. Have him in the game and feed the bigs is when they play the best.

You said Kobe shooting kept the Cavs in the game. When really Kobe's shooting helped them pull away

Original Baller · Post #91 » by **Original Baller** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:50 am

I don't know why people get offended because a guy likes to score alot. When I played basketball I enjoyed scoring more than passing. I'm sure alot of other people do as well. Why are people mad that Kobe likes to score alot?

If he was losing and shooting a low percentage it would be one thing but he's winning and shooting 50%.

If you are nitpicking Kobe on this stretch, your just exposing yourself as a hater.

kblo247 · Post #92 » by **kblo247** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:51 am

Wasn't going for it today.

He took really took 29 shots as 2 were passes off himself to the backboard to **** with Parker. He basically sat, with the other starters and the bench got blitzed when they should have not had to play the fourth.

You saw those bench stats, if you didn't:

Total Points - 97
Starters - 93
Bench - 4

Total Rebounds - 36
Starters - 31
Bench - 5

Total Assists - 30
Starters - 23
Bench - 7

Total Steals - 10
Starters - 8
Bench - 2

Total Blocks - 5
Starters - 5
Bench - 0

They scored a total of 4 points and had a total of 5 rebounds. They just really struggled to high hell without Blake, who was announced as being out for a month during the game . McRoberts also is on a minute plan by doctors so he won't really play for weeks.

This looks like it will have to be a nightly thing for a month more, not just for him but the starters as a whole, unless LA makes a trade, uses the TPE, or signs Arenas.

Metta World Crap also got benched tonight for the full game ... Doghouse

DrewBynum77 · Post #93 » by **DrewBynum77** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:53 am

markjay wrote:Michael Jordan's career average: 1.316 points per field goal attempt
Kobe Bryant tonight: 1.355 points per field goal attempt

Yeah, Kobe's playing great.

KB8MVP wrote:A TS% of 59 is pretty good.

KiDeezy wrote:Now if they LOSE those games, everyone has every right to hate on Kobe. But they have WON those 3 games where he scored 40+, and wins are what matters.

And for the heck of it, here are some of MJ's games at age 33:

36 point on 34 shots: http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 40NJN.html

36 points on 31 shots: http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 90NYK.html

44 points on 32 shots: http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 30UTA.html

But was anyone on Michael's sack? Nah MJ's still the GOAT

ComboGuardCity wrote:not impressed because he's not shooting efficiently? You do realize the highest team TS% in the league is 57% and Kobe is near 59%? That means Kobe can't take enough shots.

chubby_1_kenobi wrote:
IG2 wrote:
D Nice wrote:I guess people didn't see how god-awful the Lakers offense was when Kobe was on the bench tonight. Especially in the 4th.

Uhh, you think that might have something to do with the unprecedented level of chucking on Kobe's part? How's the rest of the team supposed get in rhythm?

LA's offense ranks a mediocre 13th this year, and likely to get worse after tonight's game. How's a core of Kobe/Bynum/Gasol + floor spacers in Barnes/Blake/Fisher/Kapono so mediocre offensively? They have played a very soft schedule so far to boot.

LAL's team assists tonight: 30
Heat's team assists tonight: 19

How'd that happen?

KB8MVP wrote:
They have played a very soft schedule so far to boot.

The Lakers rank 10th in SOS. That's above teams like Miami, Dallas, Chicago and San Antonio.

[quote="Ghosttown"]
"I love how people love to post stats that diminish Kobe or provide reasoning why his feats aren't impressive but fail to reply to (let alone acknowledge) posts that are contrary to what they say or beleive."

haha, great collection of posts ghost...

That one comparing kobe's and jordan's points per FGA was also very niiice.

Asianiac_24 · Post #94 » by **Asianiac_24** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:56 am

kblo247 wrote:Wasn't going for it today.

He took really took 29 shots as 2 were passes off himself to the backboard to **** with Parker. He basically sat, with the other starters and the bench got blitzed when they should have not had to play the fourth.

You saw those bench stats, if you didn't:

Total Points - 97
Starters - 93
Bench - 4

Total Rebounds - 36
Starters - 31
Bench - 5

Total Assists - 30
Starters - 23
Bench - 7

Total Steals - 10
Starters - 8
Bench - 2

Total Blocks - 5
Starters - 5
Bench - 0

They scored a total of 4 points and had a total of 5 rebounds. They just really struggled to high hell without Blake, who was announced as being out for a month during the game . McRoberts also is on a minute plan by doctors so he won't really play for weeks.

This looks like it will have to be a nightly thing for a month more, not just for him but the starters as a whole, unless LA makes a trade, uses the TPE, or signs Arenas.

Metta World Crap also got benched tonight for the full game ... Doghouse

I don't understand why those passes to yourself off the backboard should be counted as a missed shot. It's clearly not a shot attempt

markjay · Post #95 » by **markjay** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:57 am

Dwayne Wade scored 12 points on 14 shots tonite. I haven't seen any threads about people not being impressed by that.

Jeremy Lin 7 · Post #96 » by **Jeremy Lin 7** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:58 am

KB24TBOTB wrote:
TheOUTLAW wrote:See this is where you are making a mistake. I said nothing about Kobe being on the floor. I didn't say take him out the game. Have him in the game and feed the bigs is when they play the best.

You said Kobe shooting kept the Cavs in the game. When really Kobe's shooting helped them pull away

Yeah did it help them win in OT vs the Jazz? He almost shot themselves out of the game due to that. Sooner or later he has to realize he can't keep doing this. Its only going to hurt them in the long run.

Ghosttown · Post #97 » by **Ghosttown** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:59 am

KB24TBOTB wrote:
TheOUTLAW wrote:See this is where you are making a mistake. I said nothing about Kobe being on the floor. I didn't say take him out the game. Have him in the game and feed the bigs is when they play the best.

You said Kobe shooting kept the Cavs in the game. When really Kobe's shooting helped them pull away

Don't bother. Someone who argues that Kobe's shooting was losing them the game was either not watching the game and hating on Kobe for the sake of it; or has no understanding of how the sport of basketball works and needs to study some more games before he posts again.

Blkbrd671 · Post #98 » by **Blkbrd671** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:00 am

Yup pretty much sure you are. Lebron Homer?

astrallite · Post #99 » by **astrallite** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:01 am

markjay wrote:Michael Jordan's career average: 1.316 points per field goal attempt
Kobe Bryant tonight: 1.355 points per field goal attempt

Yeah, Kobe's playing great.

1) Let's try points per possession instead. Then try again with turnovers included :lol:

chubby_1_kenobi · Post #100 » by **chubby_1_kenobi** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:01 am

Jeremy Lin 7 wrote:
KB24TBOTB wrote:
TheOUTLAW wrote:See this is where you are making a mistake. I said nothing about Kobe being on the floor. I didn't say take him out the game. Have him in the game and feed the bigs is when they play the best.

You said Kobe shooting kept the Cavs in the game. When really Kobe's shooting helped them pull away

Yeah did it help them win in OT vs the Jazz? He almost shot themselves out of the game due to that. Sooner or later he has to realize he can't keep doing this. Its only going to hurt them in the long run.

The bench has to prove themselves to Kobe. They have to be able to maintain leads or even extending it. Until then, Kobe will keep shooting. He's been that way for 16 years, he's not gonna change all of a sudden.