Lakers no longer require extension from Dwight Howard

[Shaheen]

Last time I checked that phone call was a rumor but either way the whole point of this topic isn't that he would resign or not it was the uncertainty of his back that was keeping him from being traded to the Lakers...

But your still clinging to the hope that he gets traded to the nets for their garbage and believe that its in someway a better deal then swapping out the 1st and 2nd best center in the league...

You can define garbage however you want.

The Magic are interested in our offer they just like your offer better. If we were offering "garbage" then why are they still talking to us?

[[The-Warriors]]

Last time I checked that phone call was a rumor but either way the whole point of this topic isn't that he would resign or not it was the uncertainty of his back that was keeping him from being traded to the Lakers...

But your still clinging to the hope that he gets traded to the nets for their garbage and believe that its in someway a better deal then swapping out the 1st and 2nd best center in the league...

You can define garbage however you want.

The Magic are interested in our offer they just like your offer better. If we were offering "garbage" then why are they still talking to us?

Marshon Brooks, Brook Lopez, and filler seems like an extremely "doo doo" offer. I'd fire the new Magic's GM on the spot if he were to accept that.

[SheedsWeed]

I would be surprised if the Magic are interested in the Net's offer. They would be better off letting Dwight walk.

[spearsy23]

I would be surprised if the Magic are interested in the Net's offer. They would be better off letting Dwight walk.

Not really, they're screwed no matter what. You either become a 6-7th seed with Bynum, or a 8-11 seed with Lopez/Brooks.

[SheedsWeed]

I would be surprised if the Magic are interested in the Net's offer. They would be better off letting Dwight walk.

Not really, they're screwed no matter what. You either become a 6-7th seed with Bynum, or a 8-11 seed with Lopez/Brooks.

Which is why it would be better to let Dwight walk and not gather filler and mediocre players and contracts. More importantly it allows the Magic to bottom out and get a high draft pick and hopefully get a star. Look what happened to New Orleans this year. Their future is incredibly more brighter with Anthony Davis + Austin Rivers than it would have been with Odom, Scola, etc.

[Yo Ditch]

Hahaha I like how this shaheen kid really believes he knows more about Dwight's thinking and mindset more then Dwight does. I mean everyone's a little bias towards the team they like but your taking it to a whole new level :lol::lol:

What are you talking about?

I proposed a theory for why Dwight does not want to play in LA which is supported by fact. Kobe made a phone call that Dwight would be a third option on LA and that is what soured him on LA.

Dwight has not wanted to play for LA in the past so I'm not being bias at all. If he wanted to play in LA he would not say "I will only sign with Brooklyn."

You are just being short sighted and delusional.

First of all, Dwight hasn't said one thing about this, EVER.

Second, you watch espn? Did you hear the clips of Steve Nash actually saying he can't see himself putting on a Lakers uniform and playing for the enemy? He said that the last week of June.

Talk about delusional.

[Zona Zoo]

I would be surprised if the Magic are interested in the Net's offer. They would be better off letting Dwight walk.

Exactly, any picks of their own the Net's have to offer are worthless if they have Dwight, any players they can get back from the nets are crap (won't get you playoffs, won't help you tank), the Nets are just.... meh here without a 3rd team.

And this is coming from somebody that wants to see Dwight on the Nets, purely for the crosstown rivalry and it's implications in the atlantic division and potentially a credible rival with the Heat

[Mamba Venom]

...limit 3 quotes

That's not true and you know it.

Shaq's mouth got him traded.

NAILED IT! The last straw was the "pay me" pre-season game. It should be up there w/the Decision and the Celebration for being a watershed moment in the NBA.

Buss was sitting court side w/ his young hot date. Every time Shaq grabbed a rebound, scored, blocked a shot or even hustled he ran up to Buss and yelled PAY ME in his deep baritone voice. You could Shaq yelling very loudly (boom) way back before they put all the fancy mics on the hardwood. It was Larry David-esc meaning it was an 11 on the awkward meeter. The camera would show Buss trying not to react, but Buss - the master poker player, could not hide his emotions. There were daggers in his eyes. Buss was furious. You don't call me out, I'm your boss, I own this bitch, I paid you $200,000,000, this is on TV and I'm on a date.

Shaq wanted 30+ mil per year and was trying to get it using some strange tactics. If we were all on RealGM back then, we would have crashed the page.

When Kobe went after Shaq, it was only for not working hard. Basketball stuff. Shaq said "I got hurt (last season) on company time, so I will heal (this season) on company time." A team leader (especially one that learned from the Zen Master) has to call a guy out for healing on company time. That is not a winning attitude. Kobe also called Shaq out for being out of shape and for not practicing hard. Again basketball stuff.

But Shaq went after Kobe in a retaliatory way and questioned his man-hood, loyalty, being 2-faced, Kobe's ability to lead, Kobe's basketball skill, his IQ, and his marriage. As a huge fan of both I was like, I thought we were talking about basketball, how did we get from point A to B? And it became a divorce like atmosphere for Laker fans. Instead of being a fan of your 2 best players, you had to chose one or the other. It was all kinds of strange and weird.

I'm one of the hugest Shaq fans out there. I prided myself on being a Shaq AND Kobe guy. Not a Shaq OR Kobe guy.

But Shaq has 2 Achilles heals. (1) Work Ethic and (2) retaliatory hurtful drama. Shaq takes drama to the next level. Whether it is his other all-star teammates (Penny, Wade, Nash) or people in his personal life. Sometimes the drama can be funny because Shaq has so much carisma. But in the end it just hurts his basketball career. In 2010-2011 Shaq was not welcomed back to the Heat (who have no center) or the Lakers because of (2) retaliatory hurtful drama.

If Shaq were a harder worker and was not a drama-king, he would be the GOAT. Hands down. He would have won 7 or 8 chips. If Shaq conquered (1) Work Ethic and (2) retaliatory hurtful drama it woul = more skills & *more mental toughness = he could close basketball games in the 4th and be completely dominant GOAT.

But Shaq is a champ. He did it his way. But Shaq's way lead to Buss choosing the young hard worker for his future plans after the "PAY ME!" game.

[GoldenKnight]

Last time I checked that phone call was a rumor but either way the whole point of this topic isn't that he would resign or not it was the uncertainty of his back that was keeping him from being traded to the Lakers...

But your still clinging to the hope that he gets traded to the nets for their garbage and believe that its in someway a better deal then swapping out the 1st and 2nd best center in the league...

You can define garbage however you want.

The Magic are interested in our offer they just like your offer better. If we were offering "garbage" then why are they still talking to us?

To have more leverage for the trade. Who would want Brooklyn's horrible deal?

[Ronito]

Good news is the Magic won't be drawing out this process. I'd bet Dwight gets moved over next few days.

FWIW, RealGM's very own Jarrod Rudolph, said Dwight will be a Net by Tuesday.

[Don Draper]

The Lakers are about to turn the Chris Paul veto into Nash and Dwight.

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[Mamba Venom]

D-12 not wanting to be a Laker works in D-12s favor in the long term. People wont label him a Shaq clone. That is what Howard fears most. He got carried away, he stole the Superman nickname and then he lost the approval of one of his childhood heroes.

But since Howard fought the Lakers move, if he comes to LA, it will be part of a trade, not a flat out free agency coop, so it won't be the exact same situation anymore.

It will be on Howards terms. Howard wants to go where he chooses, but he wants the Magic to get something back for him. Why else would he have signed an extension.

[Mamba Venom]

The Lakers are about to turn the Chris Paul veto into Nash and Dwight.

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[Ronito]

It will be on Howards terms. Howard wants to go where he chooses, but he wants the Magic to get something back for him. Why else would he have signed an extension.

Because he has no idea what he's doing or because he "got bad advice."

[MannyRam99]

D-12 not wanting to be a Laker works in D-12s favor in the long term. People wont label him a Shaq clone. That is what Howard fears most. He got carried away, he stole the Superman nickname and then he lost the approval of one of his childhood heroes.

But since Howard fought the Lakers move, if he comes to LA, it will be part of a trade, not a flat out free agency coop, so it won't be the exact same situation anymore.

It will be on Howards terms. Howard wants to go where he chooses, but he wants the Magic to get something back for him. Why else would he have signed an extension.

He wants to go to Brooklyn, he only opted-in because he's a pansy and wants to come out looking like the good guy.

[T-mac_1_175]

I would be surprised if the Magic are interested in the Net's offer. They would be better off letting Dwight walk.

Exactly, any picks of their own the Net's have to offer are worthless if they have Dwight, any players they can get back from the nets are crap (won't get you playoffs, won't help you tank), the Nets are just.... meh here without a 3rd team.

And this is coming from somebody that wants to see Dwight on the Nets, purely for the crosstown rivalry and it's implications in the atlantic division and potentially a credible rival with the Heat

So has Daryl Morey done enough to please the magic with the Lowry trade?
Seems like he will offer the pick from the Raptors, 1st rounder from Dallas, I expect another future first? Kev Martins expiring deal, and a selection of young players aquired Lamb, White, Jones, Montijunas, Patterson?? I doubt it happens but as far as youth and picks are concerned it's an ok deal and Magic get rid of Hedos fat deal without taking on significant capspace.

[Spottieottie]

Well I'd say Dwight has nothing to do with the CP3 veto... everyone figured him going to LAL was inevetible once the Lakers got CP3.

[GoldenKnight]

Good news is the Magic won't be drawing out this process. I'd bet Dwight gets moved over next few days.

FWIW, RealGM's very own Jarrod Rudolph, said Dwight will be a Net by Tuesday.

He has been going back & forth, everything points to Dwight to L.A, don't be scared.

[spearsy23]

I would be surprised if the Magic are interested in the Net's offer. They would be better off letting Dwight walk.

Not really, they're screwed no matter what. You either become a 6-7th seed with Bynum, or a 8-11 seed with Lopez/Brooks.

Which is why it would be better to let Dwight walk and not gather filler and mediocre players and contracts. More importantly it allows the Magic to bottom out and get a high draft pick and hopefully get a star. Look what happened to New Orleans this year. Their future is incredibly more brighter with Anthony Davis + Austin Rivers than it would have been with Odom, Scola, etc.

I agree, hell I'd go one step farther and keep him on the team but not play him. Start the tank now. Either that or go with the ultimate f*ck you and trade him to any crappy team with some big expirings and a couple first round picks. People say you can't do it, because it's 'holding a player hostage' which is complete BS, if he's willing to hold the organization hostage, play hardball and show players that you're looking for a certain type of guy in your organization. I don't want to see him go to LA because in the end it's the best possible situation for him, if he leaves people will laugh because the Lakers are the Yankees of basketball and people hate them, if he wins a championship then obviously he wins, no matter what there isn't a downside other than he doesn't get to go to Brooklyn. Does Charlotte have any expirings big enough get him?

[Josephpaul]

So close to VOLTRON