Dante Exum: How good can he be?

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Re: Dante Exum: How good can he be? 

Post#81 » by hege53190 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:30 pm

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How is that disrespectful? Parker has never been known for having great passing ability or court vision.


Because you would make such a crazy assessment. He is a HOF point guard and you just said based on ONE summer league game that this guys vision and passing is on a tier above. You must comprehend why that's an incredibly premature thing to say...right?


I don't believe Parker is a HOF pg but if he does make the HOF it will not be because of his passing. Tony Parker is great because of his ability to hit the midrange J and finish in the paint. Not his passing ability. Put a pg with great court vision like Chris Paul on a team with that many shooters and he averages 14 assists a game. That isn't a knock on Parker. He just has a different strength as a pg.That doesn't mean he isn't a good passer but he definitely doesn't have great court vision and passing ability.


Doesn't have great court vision or passing ability is a far cry from "His (Exum's) court vision and passing ability looks to be on a different level than those guys (Parker)."

Parker does not show off elite level passing but it is damn good. To say that Exum is on another level after one summer league game is just ridiculous.

Edit- Thinking Parker is not a HOF PG just speaks to how little respect Parker gets.
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Re: Dante Exum: How good can he be? 

Post#82 » by tiderulz » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:39 pm

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durden_tyler wrote:Orlando should have drafted him methinks.

Yeah I agree, while I love Payton, he looks like the real deal. Gordon looks like the typically tweener who can't do anything well. I'm going to give him a slight pass right now considering how young the kid is, suprisingly he is younger than Exum.

Personally I think the Magic should have just went with Exum at 4, kept Saric at 12, so we didn't have to overpay to move up 2 spots to grab Payton.


what is the need to judge 18 yr olds as finished products right now? Ibaka, for example, didnt exactly look great his rookie year at 19.
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Re: Dante Exum: How good can he be? 

Post#83 » by KillMonger » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:42 pm

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durden_tyler wrote:Orlando should have drafted him methinks.

Yeah I agree, while I love Payton, he looks like the real deal. Gordon looks like the typically tweener who can't do anything well. I'm going to give him a slight pass right now considering how young the kid is, suprisingly he is younger than Exum.

Personally I think the Magic should have just went with Exum at 4, kept Saric at 12, so we didn't have to overpay to move up 2 spots to grab Payton.


what is the need to judge 18 yr olds as finished products right now? Ibaka, for example, didnt exactly look great his rookie year at 19.

Seems like he took his axe from the Orlando boards and wants to grind it here, Gordon's only weakness was shooting. His combination of Ball-handing/Passing/Defense is damn near peerless at his size out of all of the Rookies.
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Re: Dante Exum: How good can he be? 

Post#84 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:45 pm

I don't know about a superstar but I think the idea that he could be a major bust based on being an int'l player is idiotic. He'll be a good starter at worst. It's a good thing some of you aren't scouts because you don't actually evaluate what's happening on the court in front of you and listen to narratives instead.
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Re: Dante Exum: How good can he be? 

Post#85 » by mksp » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:53 pm

I think everyone needs to step back for a second and remember that this was DANTE EXUM'S FIRST COMPETITIVE GAME IN A YEAR.

And he still looked like the best player on the floor.

Before Embiid got hurt I was pimping Philly to take him ahead of Parker and I 100% stand by that. He has elite tools.

I feel bad for Magic fans trying to talk themselves into Aaron Gordon already, its only going to get worse from here. ("It's only one game" -- "It's only Summer League" -- "Once the league figures him out....." -- "He was inefficient on his way to ROY" -- "Aaron Gordon is still developing" -- "F***!!!!")
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Post#86 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:02 pm

He'll be an absolute monster if he's allowed to have the ball in his hands the majority of the time. Did y'all see that razor sharp one-handed pass he made? That was sick.
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Re: Dante Exum: How good can he be? 

Post#87 » by loserX » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:03 pm

Obviously looking good in Summer League is better than looking bad in Summer League, but it still doesn't amount to very much.

Last year in the SL, Dennis Schroeder looked like an all-star while Trey Burke didn't even look like an NBA player; people were ready to give up on the latter before his career even started. Regular season turned out differently.

I still have high hopes for Exum, obviously, I'm a Jazz fan. And his ceiling is certainly high. But let's not put too much stock into one game in a league that doesn't mean anything.
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Post#88 » by Mumbles » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:04 pm

Classic prisoner of the moment. He could easily struggle in his next games. Then what are people going to say? It's only Summer League :lol:
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Post#89 » by KillMonger » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:08 pm

mksp wrote:I think everyone needs to step back for a second and remember that this was DANTE EXUM'S FIRST COMPETITIVE GAME IN A YEAR.

And he still looked like the best player on the floor.

Before Embiid got hurt I was pimping Philly to take him ahead of Parker and I 100% stand by that. He has elite tools.

I feel bad for Magic fans trying to talk themselves into Aaron Gordon already, its only going to get worse from here. ("It's only one game" -- "It's only Summer League" -- "Once the league figures him out....." -- "He was inefficient on his way to ROY" -- "Aaron Gordon is still developing" -- "F***!!!!")

OR you can just wait and see, you can't project anything from summer league which is true. Dwight Howard didn't look particular good in Summer League and people said he was still developing....well did he develop or not? Von Wafer played very well in summer League? where is he at now? Can't get too high or too low in these things what you CAN take out of it imo is Feel for the game and Exum does have it and his quickness. Can't say a fanbase is regretting something already when they haven't even tested their mettle versus REAL Nba players. We will see the real value of these players a few years down the line and that's obvious to anyone imo.
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Post#90 » by idajazz » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:12 pm

I'm very pleased as a Jazz fan, but I will temper my enthusiasm until he had played a few regular season games.
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Post#91 » by YouMustBeJoakim » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:12 pm

Other than his obvious dynamic in-game skills, he seems to carry himself pretty well.

He comes off as a genuine, light-hearted guy that's easy to coach and get along with. He'll easily get more endorsements as the years go on. You can even tell in his foot locker commercials, that's he's super-marketable.
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Post#92 » by tiderulz » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:16 pm

mksp wrote:I think everyone needs to step back for a second and remember that this was DANTE EXUM'S FIRST COMPETITIVE GAME IN A YEAR.

And he still looked like the best player on the floor.

Before Embiid got hurt I was pimping Philly to take him ahead of Parker and I 100% stand by that. He has elite tools.

I feel bad for Magic fans trying to talk themselves into Aaron Gordon already, its only going to get worse from here. ("It's only one game" -- "It's only Summer League" -- "Once the league figures him out....." -- "He was inefficient on his way to ROY" -- "Aaron Gordon is still developing" -- "F***!!!!")


i feel bad for Exum. Kid is still so young and after 1 SL game, people like you are crowning him as this superstar. When he goes thru some tough stretches, and he will as everyone does, he will get some undue criticism from his fans.

And with a thread about how good Exum can be, why do you feel the need to drag another team in to it? What does the development of Gordon have to do with how good Exum can be? it seems that you feel some need to try and needle another fan base.
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Post#93 » by SOUL » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:17 pm

RealGM has a lot of summer league scouts. It's pretty annoying hearing people proclaim how Orlando messed up when their careers haven't started yet.

I wish Exum well, but I know Magic fans are absolutely enthralled with Payton and have high hopes for Gordon.
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Post#94 » by Nycballa2k » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:31 pm

TeaM DimE wrote:How do you guys feel about a Rondo comparison? They both are lengthy guards with elite court vision and solid finishing abilities. Much like Rondo i see Exum as a walking triple double.


I see Payton being more like Rondo
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Post#95 » by mksp » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:39 pm

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mksp wrote:I think everyone needs to step back for a second and remember that this was DANTE EXUM'S FIRST COMPETITIVE GAME IN A YEAR.

And he still looked like the best player on the floor.

Before Embiid got hurt I was pimping Philly to take him ahead of Parker and I 100% stand by that. He has elite tools.

I feel bad for Magic fans trying to talk themselves into Aaron Gordon already, its only going to get worse from here. ("It's only one game" -- "It's only Summer League" -- "Once the league figures him out....." -- "He was inefficient on his way to ROY" -- "Aaron Gordon is still developing" -- "F***!!!!")


i feel bad for Exum. Kid is still so young and after 1 SL game, people like you are crowning him as this superstar. When he goes thru some tough stretches, and he will as everyone does, he will get some undue criticism from his fans.

And with a thread about how good Exum can be, why do you feel the need to drag another team in to it? What does the development of Gordon have to do with how good Exum can be? it seems that you feel some need to try and needle another fan base.


You understand that Exum + Gordon will be linked throughout their careers, right? You don't think Atlanta still wonders what Chris Paul would look like in a Hawks uniform?
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Post#96 » by Nycballa2k » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:41 pm

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tiderulz wrote:
mksp wrote:I think everyone needs to step back for a second and remember that this was DANTE EXUM'S FIRST COMPETITIVE GAME IN A YEAR.

And he still looked like the best player on the floor.

Before Embiid got hurt I was pimping Philly to take him ahead of Parker and I 100% stand by that. He has elite tools.

I feel bad for Magic fans trying to talk themselves into Aaron Gordon already, its only going to get worse from here. ("It's only one game" -- "It's only Summer League" -- "Once the league figures him out....." -- "He was inefficient on his way to ROY" -- "Aaron Gordon is still developing" -- "F***!!!!")


i feel bad for Exum. Kid is still so young and after 1 SL game, people like you are crowning him as this superstar. When he goes thru some tough stretches, and he will as everyone does, he will get some undue criticism from his fans.

And with a thread about how good Exum can be, why do you feel the need to drag another team in to it? What does the development of Gordon have to do with how good Exum can be? it seems that you feel some need to try and needle another fan base.


You understand that Exum + Gordon will be linked throughout their careers, right? You don't think Atlanta still wonders what Chris Paul would look like in a Hawks uniform?


What if Payton becomes a cornerstone and future all-star? Then no one will question the Gordon pick because they still ended up with one of the top point guards.

Regardless all of this is stupidly premature.
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Post#97 » by SOUL » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:48 pm

mksp wrote:
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mksp wrote:I think everyone needs to step back for a second and remember that this was DANTE EXUM'S FIRST COMPETITIVE GAME IN A YEAR.

And he still looked like the best player on the floor.

Before Embiid got hurt I was pimping Philly to take him ahead of Parker and I 100% stand by that. He has elite tools.

I feel bad for Magic fans trying to talk themselves into Aaron Gordon already, its only going to get worse from here. ("It's only one game" -- "It's only Summer League" -- "Once the league figures him out....." -- "He was inefficient on his way to ROY" -- "Aaron Gordon is still developing" -- "F***!!!!")


i feel bad for Exum. Kid is still so young and after 1 SL game, people like you are crowning him as this superstar. When he goes thru some tough stretches, and he will as everyone does, he will get some undue criticism from his fans.

And with a thread about how good Exum can be, why do you feel the need to drag another team in to it? What does the development of Gordon have to do with how good Exum can be? it seems that you feel some need to try and needle another fan base.


You understand that Exum + Gordon will be linked throughout their careers, right? You don't think Atlanta still wonders what Chris Paul would look like in a Hawks uniform?


That can happen.

So can Gordon panning out and Exum not.

Or both of them.
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Post#98 » by LeonSmith » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:49 pm

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Risk101 wrote:You guys need to move Trey Burke and let Exum run the show at the point guard spot. I don't see those 2 co-existing with one another.


I was thinking the same thing last year with Dragic and Bledsoe but it turn out well for the Suns. I think they can co-exist at the both sides on the floor.

Dragic/Bledsoe works because they're both comfortable being combo guards and don't care who 'runs the show'

With Burke/Exum, you have two guys who are really only comfortable at the 1. And with their duo, one guy looks like a natural point guard, and the other guy looks like a midget chucker trying to prove himself.. hmm I wonder what Utah should do here?


After one game you're ready to say Exum and/or Burke is a midget chucker? Jerry West should resign immediately so you can take his job then.

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Post#99 » by Forbes » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:50 pm

That was the first vid I have watched of Exum and I'll go ahead and say they need to get rid of Burke. Exum's game offensively is seriously advanced. I will def be keeping an eye on him this season. How the Magic didn't take him to pair with Oladipo in the backcourt Is absurd.
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Post#100 » by jernigan » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:55 pm

Forbes wrote:That was the first vid I have watched of Exum and I'll go ahead and say they need to get rid of Burke. Exum's game offensively is seriously advanced. I will def be keeping an eye on him this season. How the Magic didn't take him to pair with Oladipo in the backcourt Is absurd.
He can't be whatever he wants an I hope he keeps putting in work


They wanted to pair Oladipo with Elfrid Payton and from the look of things, they made the right decision. Payton is an absolute stud. Exum as well. Bodes well for the future of the PG position.

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