Which team has the brightest future?

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Which team has the brightest future in the next 5 years?

Denver Nuggets
0
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Minnesota Timberwolves
143
47%
Orlando Magic
48
16%
Philadelphia Sixers
46
15%
Phoenix Suns
18
6%
Sacramento Kings
11
4%
Utah Jazz
37
12%
 
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Post#81 » by JazzMatt13 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:01 am

Top 3: Wolves, Jazz and Bucks. (no order, all equally doing good, in one way or another)

Wovles have made good moves, and have taken advantage of draft, however they have been in playoff drought for years, but they have decent guy now in Flip, so hopefully that will change. Wiggins is key here, Wolves got a solid 2-3 years worth of time to build around him, before Wiggins is hitting it hard for playoffs. They already have Lavine, Dieng, Muhammad, and Bennet, all young talent waiting to develop. Adding the old their present looks good also, with Pek and Rubio. However, they don't own 2 future 1st round picks and have no picks coming in, so they are going to need their current group more than any of the 3 to be the stars, or to use them for future assets. I don't think Wolves are great at drafting or developing as the other two, but they do have solid players already.

Jazz have always drafted for their stars and have a great organization built around good basketball. They have a head start with Hayward, Favors and Booker all from 2010 draft all developed and handling Western Starters, but of the 3 teams, I think they have the weaker chance of hitting highest (like a finals run), unless they draft super power in next 2-3 drafts. They know how to develop players, and they have 6 young talented players (Burks, Gobert, Burke, Exum, Ingles and Millsap), all rookies and sophomores except Burks. It is just a matter if they can develop a number of real stars for playoff contention in West. Considering Jazz own all their future picks, plus many more on top in next 3 drafts (I think I counted 12 picks that aren't Jazz's 1st and 2nd), that is insane trading power to land very talented players. Between the current assets and future ones, not to mention the 3 solid international players they have rights to, Jazz have immense power to build a playoff team, even in West (if in East, with their weaker schedules, Jazz would already be playoff ready).

Bucks also have a great man in charge. Giannis is the ticket here, and with Jabari Parker, they are bound to be a real solid team soon, especially since in the East Conference! Of the 3 teams I think they are the most likeliest to get the highest (finals run). On top they got Middleton and Plumlee who are also young, and looking good. Bucks also own all their future picks for next couple years like Jazz, and have a few 2nd rounds coming in, so they have room to upgrade through draft and trading power. They are like Wolves building off very new players, so it could take 2-3 years before hitting deep playoffs.
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Post#82 » by JazzMatt13 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:13 am

Hayward, Favors and Gobert is probably the best young front court group. Given 1-2 years, they could be best in NBA. Hayward is already top 20 in PPG in NBA this season. Favors and Gobert have room to improve to get into top ranks, but they have great defense combined.

Considering they haven't had Burks at SG most of the year, and relying solely on rookies and sophomores in the back court for starters and bench, it isn't surprising to see them in bottom of league, not to mention they are in West. Burke and Exum 2 very young and inexperienced players are the best in back court, with "old" rookies Ingles and Millsap as the SG's, they make up one of the weakest and most inexperienced back courts in NBA (3 rookies, 1 sophomore). Given time to develop with this front court, it won't be shocking to see this team in playoffs in future, especially if they draft quality Shooting Guards and get some solid bench players.
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Post#83 » by irie » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:28 am

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Hendrix wrote:I'm sort of surprised that the Kings have so few votes. Cousins is still the best player on any of these teams, and I don't see much evidence that any of the other teams have guys that project to be better. Embiid for example, hopes one day he can be as good as Cousins, but no guarantee he'll get there. Kinda like how Blazers fans said they'd take Oden over Dwight because of potential, after that draft.

Because Cousins is really all they have. Stauskas looks bad so far, Mclemore is all right. They've had three coaches this season already. Tough to put much trust into their future when their front office has shown so much incompetence.

But yeah, Cousins is the best player on any of these teams. Having him is the only thing that even gets them in the conversation.


Rudy Gay would far and away be the best player on the Celtics. Dismissing him because of reputation or age?

Yeah, he would be the best player on the Celtics. There's a reason they don't even make the cut to get into a poll like this. I don't know what the Celtics have to do with this topic though.
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Post#84 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:30 am

We're talking about potential and in the future right? Then it's 76ers.

Short term, Noel's probably up there with the best players in these teams. Potential DPOY?

Mid term, Embiid highest potential to be a franchise player out of all the teams.

And for the future, sixers top 3 pick plus Heat's lotto this year. Then Sixers top 3 pick plus Lakers' top 5, next year.

Sixers got two projected 1st overalls in the past two drafts. Promising role players with the 2nds like Jerami Grant. Then tons of promising picks in the future.

Last time, most criticisms were about the health of Noel and Embiid. I'm wondering what's the criticism would be now?
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Post#85 » by Gomagic44 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:06 am

76ciology wrote:We're talking about potential and in the future right? Then it's 76ers.

Short term, Noel's probably up there with the best players in these teams. Potential DPOY?

Mid term, Embiid highest potential to be a franchise player out of all the teams.

And for the future, sixers top 3 pick plus Heat's lotto this year. Then Sixers top 3 pick plus Lakers' top 5, next year.

Sixers got two projected 1st overalls in the past two drafts. Promising role players with the 2nds like Jerami Grant. Then tons of promising picks in the future.

Last time, most criticisms were about the health of Noel and Embiid. I'm wondering what's the criticism would be now?


The criticism being that you just traded your ROY for another pick?

How is nothing to show and or lack of anything at all equal to potential? Those picks (37 in last 3 years, wow) are yet to even materialize. I agree that Hinkie seems to be playing the Morey card, but until that happens......your a D-league team with incredible future flexibility and multiple picks, though most are second rounders. The sixers are the team you'd love to be in NBA 2k Franchise mode, not in real life.
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Post#86 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:22 am

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76ciology wrote:We're talking about potential and in the future right? Then it's 76ers.

Short term, Noel's probably up there with the best players in these teams. Potential DPOY?

Mid term, Embiid highest potential to be a franchise player out of all the teams.

And for the future, sixers top 3 pick plus Heat's lotto this year. Then Sixers top 3 pick plus Lakers' top 5, next year.

Sixers got two projected 1st overalls in the past two drafts. Promising role players with the 2nds like Jerami Grant. Then tons of promising picks in the future.

Last time, most criticisms were about the health of Noel and Embiid. I'm wondering what's the criticism would be now?


The criticism being that you just traded your ROY for another pick?

How is nothing to show and or lack of anything at all equal to potential? Those picks (37 in last 3 years, wow) are yet to even materialize. I agree that Hinkie seems to be playing the Morey card, but until that happens......your a D-league team with incredible future flexibility and multiple picks, though most are second rounders. The sixers are the team you'd love to be in NBA 2k Franchise mode, not in real life.


Have you tried comparing sixers and magic's record in this year and last's? They're not far apart. So does this mean our dleague guys are not far talented from your team's?

FWIW, MCW is ranked 50th in efficiency. Not in the entire league. But in the PG position. He's 23-24, got two years remaining in his contract. Most likely has reached his ceiling and would be difficult to trade next season. That Lakers pick in 2016 might turn into Thon Maker or Jaylen Brown, who knows?

Then going back to this thread, we're talking about the brightest future right? I'd go with the Sixers. I do think our team has mixture of quantity and quality in terms of talent.

Our FO and coaching staff have been execeptional, no firings because they can't deliver. All guys play hard and plays to win. Jerami Grant and Jakarr Sampson's development into good shooters, speaks volume of our player development. And when you are up there in terms of record with way talented teams (have u checked the difference of our team's win loss record yet? Around just 4 games apart right?) and at the same time be able to acquire the projected top players in the last two drafts, while robbing team's assets on gun point. What's not to like?
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Post#87 » by Dcebucks11 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:32 am

wow i just noticed vucevic was on philly before.. they also stole tobias from the bucks..

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Post#88 » by City of Trees » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:05 am

Minnesota and Milwaukee

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Post#89 » by bondom34 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:13 am

Minnesota, Milwaukee, then Philly or Utah.

And for anyone ragging on Philly for trading MCW, if I told you a week ago the Lakers traded their pick for MCW, you'd say I was insane. But that's what they got for him.
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Post#90 » by Domejandro » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:16 am

I think the Timberwolves can start competing in two years.

Young Talent:

Ricky Rubio
Andrew Wiggins/Zach LaVine/Glenn Robinson
Shabazz Muhammad/Robbie Hummel
Anthony Bennett/Adreian Payne
Gorgui Dieng

That core by itself (though I lack confidence in a couple of them), is pretty insane. Ricky Rubio is a phenomenal player who will have a whole summer for the first time since he has been in the league (injuries and Euro-ball) to reconstruct his shot.

Andrew Wiggins is clearly a superstar in the near future, I honestly am not sure how anyone could not see that. No offense to Philadelphia fans, but I am not sure how you could claim Joel Embiid to be the best piece to have in a rebuilding team. I loved Embiid in college, but right now if a team had to choose Joel or Andrew, the choice would be very simple to make.

Zach LaVine is Pogo-Stick who really needs to learn basketball.

Glenn Robinson is a young player on a cheap contract (all teams have these).

Shabazz Muhammad is amazing, the dude is really, really good at basketball. At worst you have a Sixth Man of the Year quality player, he has been one of two bright spots (along with Andrew) this season. Great work ethic.

Robbie Hummel is the Nick Collison of the team. Nothing spectacular, but he just seems to do things right on the court. Good tenth man.

Anthony Bennett makes me bang my head against a wall. If the dude had some intensity and would stay around the basket he would be a really nice piece, but I just do not know if he can mentally get over the hump and become an NBA player.

I loved Adreian Payne in college, and I was pleased with what I saw last night in his rather abrupt (Bennett hurt himself) debut. He was far from spectacular, but he did not make mistakes and played solid defense. We have no idea what we have with him yet, but he is a young player and therefor makes the list.

I believe Gorgui Dieng is our Power-Forward of the future, but I got laughed off the Minnesota forum, so just wait and see, haha.



Where we really thrive as a team is the fact that we have more than just young players. We have people that have not only proven to be NBA worthy, but have thrived in the league!

Nikola Pekovic gives the Minnesota Timberwolves something that most teams in the league do not have and cannot defend... low-post scoring. In addition, he is an excellent team rebounder (we went from an awful rebounding to very good rebounding team when he came back) and he is a very good man-to-man defender. Though his help defense is flawed, we are actually a much better defensive team because he is absolutely massive. He is injury prone, but if healthy for the playoffs, he is a deadly asset to have.

Kevin Martin did something last night that I have never, and I repeat NEVER seen him do before. He played defense. Whether it is a fluke or not, Kevin Martin is an elite scorer that can create baskets on and off the ball, draws fouls, and is highly efficient. His defense has been atrocious, but his scoring ability is absolutely superb.

Kevin Garnett is as old as dirt and has been run into the ground, but he still does three things at an elite level. Defend, rebound, and pass. With his intensity and ability to develop big-men (Jared Sullinger, Mason Plumlee, Greg Steimsma, etc.) he will help the young players immensely. In addition, I personally believe him coming to the team is the one reason why Kevin Martin actually played (and dare I say it?) good defense! People often believe that influence is overrated, but I am optimistic that this experience will override that.

We also have a European player named Nemanja Bjelica that we are likely bringing over this off-season. He is lighting up Europe currently with his play. He is six foot ten, is an excellent ball-handler, has shown he can shoot the three-ball, is a good passer, knows how to play team-defense, and is just entering his prime as he is currently twenty-six. He is really flawed due to his poor athleticism, but he is very intriguing to say the least.

If the Minnesota Timberwolves find a way to get both Karl Towns and Tyus Jones in this Draft, the Timberwolves roster next year will look like (some Timberwolves fans may disagree, but the only thing that I believe could be different is if we start Kevin Garnett instead of Gorugi Dieng)...

Without the Draft...

Ricky Rubio/Lorenzo Brown (Not Guaranteed Contract)
Kevin Martin/Zach LaVine/Glenn Robinson (Bird Rights)
Andrew Wiggins/Shabazz Muhammad/Nemanja Bjelica (Draft Rights)
Gorgui Dieng/Adreian Payne/Anthony Bennett
Nikola Pekovic/Kevin Garnett (Rumoured Extension)

Simply slot in Karl Anthony-Towns and Tyus Jones (no way we get him for nothing, but I will dream on), and we would be set!

The excellent thing is that the team is really good without the Draft and Free-Agency, so the Timberwolves have something to look forwards to for once. After traversing the longest tunnel ever made, it seems we have finally found the light.
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Post#91 » by Domejandro » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:17 am

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Post#92 » by Gomagic44 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:19 am

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Gomagic44 wrote:
76ciology wrote:We're talking about potential and in the future right? Then it's 76ers.

Short term, Noel's probably up there with the best players in these teams. Potential DPOY?

Mid term, Embiid highest potential to be a franchise player out of all the teams.

And for the future, sixers top 3 pick plus Heat's lotto this year. Then Sixers top 3 pick plus Lakers' top 5, next year.

Sixers got two projected 1st overalls in the past two drafts. Promising role players with the 2nds like Jerami Grant. Then tons of promising picks in the future.

Last time, most criticisms were about the health of Noel and Embiid. I'm wondering what's the criticism would be now?


The criticism being that you just traded your ROY for another pick?

How is nothing to show and or lack of anything at all equal to potential? Those picks (37 in last 3 years, wow) are yet to even materialize. I agree that Hinkie seems to be playing the Morey card, but until that happens......your a D-league team with incredible future flexibility and multiple picks, though most are second rounders. The sixers are the team you'd love to be in NBA 2k Franchise mode, not in real life.


Have you tried comparing sixers and magic's record in this year and last's? They're not far apart. So does this mean our dleague guys are not far talented from your team's?

FWIW, MCW is ranked 50th in efficiency. Not in the entire league. But in the PG position. He's 23-24, got two years remaining in his contract. Most likely has reached his ceiling and would be difficult to trade next season. That Lakers pick in 2016 might turn into Thon Maker or Jaylen Brown, who knows?

Then going back to this thread, we're talking about the brightest future right? I'd go with the Sixers. I do think our team has mixture of quantity and quality in terms of talent.

Our FO and coaching staff have been execeptional, no firings because they can't deliver. All guys play hard and plays to win. Jerami Grant and Jakarr Sampson's development into good shooters, speaks volume of our player development. And when you are up there in terms of record with way talented teams (have u checked the difference of our team's win loss record yet? Around just 4 games apart right?) and at the same time be able to acquire the projected top players in the last two drafts, while robbing team's assets on gun point. What's not to like?


Correct, we are similar. Correct, I am not that high on ALL of our youth. I was never a big fan of MCW, so thankyou for confirming my bias. That was a decent pickup, it just doesn't convey a purpose. When does your plan materialize? Is it a 3 year plan, 5 year, 7 year? How patient are you? I'm mad after 2.5 seasons of sucking!
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Post#93 » by GallagherArt » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:24 am

As a Sixers' fan I love what we've done and I do believe that our future is certainly bright, however until things become more tangible I can't claim that it's the brightest or brighter than some other teams.
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Post#94 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:31 am

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The criticism being that you just traded your ROY for another pick?

How is nothing to show and or lack of anything at all equal to potential? Those picks (37 in last 3 years, wow) are yet to even materialize. I agree that Hinkie seems to be playing the Morey card, but until that happens......your a D-league team with incredible future flexibility and multiple picks, though most are second rounders. The sixers are the team you'd love to be in NBA 2k Franchise mode, not in real life.


Have you tried comparing sixers and magic's record in this year and last's? They're not far apart. So does this mean our dleague guys are not far talented from your team's?

FWIW, MCW is ranked 50th in efficiency. Not in the entire league. But in the PG position. He's 23-24, got two years remaining in his contract. Most likely has reached his ceiling and would be difficult to trade next season. That Lakers pick in 2016 might turn into Thon Maker or Jaylen Brown, who knows?

Then going back to this thread, we're talking about the brightest future right? I'd go with the Sixers. I do think our team has mixture of quantity and quality in terms of talent.

Our FO and coaching staff have been execeptional, no firings because they can't deliver. All guys play hard and plays to win. Jerami Grant and Jakarr Sampson's development into good shooters, speaks volume of our player development. And when you are up there in terms of record with way talented teams (have u checked the difference of our team's win loss record yet? Around just 4 games apart right?) and at the same time be able to acquire the projected top players in the last two drafts, while robbing team's assets on gun point. What's not to like?


Correct, we are similar. Correct, I am not that high on ALL of our youth. I was never a big fan of MCW, so thankyou for confirming my bias. That was a decent pickup, it just doesn't convey a purpose. When does your plan materialize? Is it a 3 year plan, 5 year, 7 year? How patient are you? I'm mad after 2.5 seasons of sucking!


This is just our second year in the rebuilding process. Can probably get 4-6 star/superstar potential players by next year.

Biid
Noel
Sixers 2015 and 2016 picks
Heat's pick this year (lotto?)
Lakers' pick next year (lotto?)


Sixers fan are unknown to be unreasonable, but around 80-90% of the fanbase supports hinkie because we do see result. And we believe this is the best way not to just compete for play-offs but to build a title team.

I think timing is just wrong with the Magic. They got a high pick in a bad draft class. Then run out of star potential player in last year's draft in their position. I also think the ownerside had a short leash in terms of risk and timeframe for Hennigan, due to his big investement in facilities in anticipation of title runs with D12.

Anyway, looks like a legit play-off team in the play-offs. I'm a big fan of Vucevic when most Sixers fans were not high on him. Dipo should be a SG to be efficient. Not high on Payton and Gordon, two very flawed players to have high upside but should be blue chips role players.
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Post#95 » by Xsy » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:35 am

The Jazz have the youngest and most inexperienced roster in the league, and are doing better than most of the teams in this poll.

Just sayin'.






Bucks are doing way better though, and are just barely any older. Idk why they're not on this poll. They should be getting talked about a lot more.
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Post#96 » by Elden Payton » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:36 am

Kevin Johnson wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:For the record Charlotte is a young team who will most likely make the playoffs in consecutive seasons for the first time in franchise history, yeah our future sucks.

Charlotte has a young core of Kemba/MKG/Zeller/Vonleh/Hairston and Biyombo


I apologize, you're right

>Scraping into the Eastern Conference playoffs last year and hopefully this year is a great accomplishment.

>Future with a young core of "Kemba/MKG/Zeller/Vonleh/Hairston and Biyombo" will definitely be a bright one. These other rebuilding teams must be green with envy.


>Scraping into the playoffs whilst rebuilding>>lacking any improvement years into a rebuild.

>Future with a young core with flexibility>>lacking any improvement years into a rebuild.

>I'm not saying that anyone should be jealous of Charltotte's rebuild?

>What do posts from the Charlotte Board have to do with the GB? (such as the one you posted)

>Some Charlotte fans believe we have the third best current rebuild in the NBA behind Minnesota and/or Milwaukee, personally I believe it is Utah.
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Post#97 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:43 am

Xsy wrote:The Jazz have the youngest and most inexperienced roster in the league, and are doing better than most of the teams in this poll.

Just sayin'.






Bucks are doing way better though, and are just barely any older. Idk why they're not on this poll. They should be getting talked about a lot more.


You see any players in the Jazz roster being perenial all-stars? Favors and Hayward have toppish ceiling. Burke and Exum looks average. There's Gobert, but how much better can he get?
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Post#98 » by Fresh360Waves » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:52 am

I like the core they're building out there in Minny. Orlando is a close 2nd because they've drafted and traded well thus far. Who would've guessed Orlando would end up on top in the Dwight Howard trade?
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Post#99 » by Xsy » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:58 am

76ciology wrote:
Xsy wrote:The Jazz have the youngest and most inexperienced roster in the league, and are doing better than most of the teams in this poll.

Just sayin'.






Bucks are doing way better though, and are just barely any older. Idk why they're not on this poll. They should be getting talked about a lot more.


You see any players in the Jazz roster being perenial all-stars? Favors and Hayward have toppish ceiling. Burke and Exum looks average. There's Gobert, but how much better can he get?


Hayward and Favors could become All Stars for sure. If the Jazz were an eastern conference team, Hayward would have probably made the squad already. Favors is pretty underrated, and should only get better now that he's back at the 4 position. They've been in the league since 2010, but they're still only 24 and 23 respectively. Still a few years away from hitting their prime, and we've locked them up for a good couple of years. Good situation with both of these guys.

Gobert is ... well, quite possibly the best defensive player in the league. I'm gonna give him a year as a starter before I really crown him as such, but hot damn, I am so hype about this guy.

Tbh, I really shouldn't even be giving you my opinion on Gobert, since my homerism and hype levels are so high right now.

Sorry, I've just been excited about Gobert and the Jazz since we traded Kanter... ignore everything I just said.

I just really like these three players. I can talk real about Buke and Exum, tho.

Burke is too small and too slow to truly be anything special. Which is kind of a bummer. But I really don't mind him coming off the bench. I haven't heard him complain once about his "demotion", either, which really makes me appreciate his professionalism. He knows he can be effective off the bench, and I think he's doing a good job doing so. If he can embrace a sixth man role, I would love to keep him around to wreak havoc on opposing team's benches.

As for Exum, well, he's the epitome of of a project player. I'm getting tired of defending this pick, but bleh, I'll do it again. Exum was drafted on physical tools, not NBA skill. There's a good chance he can learn to use his tools to build a really solid career. There's also a chance he can't bring everything together, and become the PG version of Hasheem Thabeet. As of now, he's a solid defensive player, especially for a rookie PG. On top of that, his passing is good, and his court vision is good. If he busts, I don't think it'll be a career ending bust. If he booms, it could be a huge **** boom. Only time will tell with this one.
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Post#100 » by NashtyNas » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:27 am

Takingbaconback wrote:Yeah Utah has a possible superstar in the making too in Gobert...

Just realized how much fantasy points Gobert is going to get me in the 2nd half of the season :P


Star? Maybe, depends how you define star. Not sure he ever becomes much more than a defensive anchor type, like Hibbert was for Indy in their deep playoff runs. Don't see the potential for much more IMO. Not saying they have a similar style because Gobert is way quicker and more athletic but he is probably best suited in a similar role while being a Chandler or Jordan on offense. If he develops a quality mid range game that'll help him a LOT, but I'm not sure if he's got the touch.

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