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So since Durant wants to win badly, it makes more sense to go to a team which just lost the Finals despite home court advantage instead to a back to back champs? Say what?
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If Durant resigns, it will be a multi-year deal. He's not looking for the same **** that is already annoying him (fa circus) to repeat itself.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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BloodNinja wrote:The series was decided in the last minute of game 7 by 4 points. Can we stop the hyperbole claims that Curry needs superstar help. The Warriors were a bounce or two, or a turnover away from being repeat champions. It’s not like they got blasted by the Cavs,
Reminds me of the Seahawks critics that their OC needed to go or Pete Carroll sucks. Christ one yard away from a repeat very similar to the Dubs. No need for a major shake up.

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Durant should go to Golden State and no one should give him **** for it because Lebron did the same thing when he went to Miami. It's all about the rings right?
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Pillendreher wrote:If Durant resigns, it will be a multi-year deal. He's not looking for the same **** that is already annoying him (fa circus) to repeat itself.
I think he misses out on a lot of money not waiting to re sign long term. LeBron is making out much better that way in the long term.

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Pointgod wrote:Durant should go to Golden State and no one should give him **** for it because Lebron did the same thing when he went to Miami. It's all about the rings right?
not quite the same thing.
anyways, i won't hate on Durant if he goes to GS anyways
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Froob wrote:Pillendreher wrote:If Durant resigns, it will be a multi-year deal. He's not looking for the same **** that is already annoying him (fa circus) to repeat itself.
I think he misses out on a lot of money not waiting to re sign long term. LeBron is making out much better that way in the long term.
Yeah but I don't think that KD cares at all about that. The way he's been talking about free agency...it seems like a terribly big nuisance to him. I think Durant really just wants to play ball and not deal with all that kind of ****.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Doubt he goes to GSW but he should. Stop being beholden to past sensibilities regarding staying with a team which was driven primarily by the level (or lack thereof) of free agency available to players in the 80s. Get your titles while you can get them.
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bondom34 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:I would hate to be an OKC fan right now. This could all be BS and he comes back, but these next couple of weeks are going to be nerve wrecking. The franchise's relevancy is hanging in the balance.
Honestly, not worried.
I'd bet a ton of money he stays. I haven't seen a report that I trust, given what he's said.
No matter what it's a tough situation for OKC as a contender. They have avoided the tax in past but injuries depth issues, and trading away young talent has kept OKC from the title.
Questions are
28-38 Durant mil loses out 60 mil or signs 2017
33 mil 2017 Westbrook others contenders easily have max space. Plus 3 stars.
33 mil Max for Ibaka is he kept play has leveled but he is young and best defender.
RFA front good players who can get better.
28 max for Adams Kanter 17 mil is cheaper
8-14 mil for Robertson
8-12 mil Waiters.
OKC faces repeater tax if they retain talent and actually want to add.
All the big deals also escalate eating 2-3 mil in cap annually for each one of the 4.
Cap may shrink causing harder decision.
Spurs, Clippers, Cavs Warriors have more top players signed long term which is an advantage.
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Warriorfan wrote:bondom34 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:I would hate to be an OKC fan right now. This could all be BS and he comes back, but these next couple of weeks are going to be nerve wrecking. The franchise's relevancy is hanging in the balance.
Honestly, not worried.
I'd bet a ton of money he stays. I haven't seen a report that I trust, given what he's said.
No matter what it's a tough situation for OKC as a contender. They have avoided the tax in past but injuries depth issues, and trading away young talent has kept OKC from the title.
Questions are
28-38 Durant mil loses out 60 mil or signs 2017
33 mil 2017 Westbrook others contenders easily have max space. Plus 3 stars.
33 mil Max for Ibaka is he kept play has leveled but he is young and best defender.
RFA front good players who can get better.
28 max for Adams Kanter 17 mil is cheaper
8-14 mil for Robertson
8-12 mil Waiters.
OKC faces repeater tax if they retain talent and actually want to add.
All the big deals also escalate eating 2-3 mil in cap annually for each one of the 4.
Cap may shrink causing harder decision.
Spurs, Clippers, Cavs Warriors have more top players signed long term which is an advantage.
Oh my goodness we know you keep spamming the same thing.
Wait until GSW is paying Barnes 20 mil a year then get back to me.
And again, GSW is not in some amazing financial situation relative to anyone.
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SF_Warriors wrote:bmurph128 wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't think Durant would make the Warriors that much better?
If Curry and Thompson were relegated to just 3 point shooters, then I think they would keep their record around where it is (they can't improve it). But I don't see that happening. Thompson would be relegated to nothing but a 3 and d player.
Also, Iguadala's defense was HUGE in their 3-1 comeback against OKC...now we're basically taking Iggy out??
Durant is one of the greatest players in the nba. And klay and/or curry would thrive as spot up shooters, and of course can be go-to guys when KD is sitting or when he is cold that night. Trust me, having three of the most deadliest shooters in the world who can also create their own shots is not anywhere close to an issue and will open up the game for everyone.
Honestly, if you do not think adding a superstar to a great core is beneficial , than you really do not understand basketball.
For instance, Lebron to miami..sure wade and bosh's stats took a hit, but they won two rings out of it. That's a fair trade off if you ask me. We arent talking about adding aldridge to an aging core. We are talking about adding someone much better to a cor ein its absolute prime here.
Also KD > both HB and Andre combined
I understand the depth concerns, but those can be addressed by vet minimum ring chasers..and that is okay because that is all that will be needed with four all stars, two of them being superstars on the same squad.
As far as record goes, I think the move will be for dominating the playoffs, not the regular season.
Adding Durant would be obviously beneficial in some ways.
LeBron to Miami was different - for one, he's far better than Durant. For another, he came in and was THE guy.
Is that what happens when he comes to Golden State? One of Curry/Thompson/Durant would see a drastic decrease in possessions and stats. This could definitely make the Warriors better...but when they won it all their strength was their defense and Durant is not as good a defender as Iguadala.
This is not like getting LeBron where he can be a lock down defender. You'd be swapping defense for offense when your offense at times couldn't get any better anyways.
Durant would likely guarantee coming out of the West for a while, but I wouldn't crown them right away until I see how their defense looks with that lineup.
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bondom34 wrote:Warriorfan wrote:bondom34 wrote:Honestly, not worried.
I'd bet a ton of money he stays. I haven't seen a report that I trust, given what he's said.
No matter what it's a tough situation for OKC as a contender. They have avoided the tax in past but injuries depth issues, and trading away young talent has kept OKC from the title.
Questions are
28-38 Durant mil loses out 60 mil or signs 2017
33 mil 2017 Westbrook others contenders easily have max space. Plus 3 stars.
33 mil Max for Ibaka is he kept play has leveled but he is young and best defender.
RFA front good players who can get better.
28 max for Adams Kanter 17 mil is cheaper
8-14 mil for Robertson
8-12 mil Waiters.
OKC faces repeater tax if they retain talent and actually want to add.
All the big deals also escalate eating 2-3 mil in cap annually for each one of the 4.
Cap may shrink causing harder decision.
Spurs, Clippers, Cavs Warriors have more top players signed long term which is an advantage.
Oh my goodness we know you keep spamming the same thing.
Wait until GSW is paying Barnes 20 mil a year then get back to me.
And again, GSW is not in some amazing financial situation relative to anyone.
I like how Adams' max is higher than KD's.
The Thunder players might go the Spurs and just start taking less from here on out. I could totally see KD taking less, then Russ and so on.
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bondom34 wrote:Warriorfan wrote:bondom34 wrote:Honestly, not worried.
I'd bet a ton of money he stays. I haven't seen a report that I trust, given what he's said.
No matter what it's a tough situation for OKC as a contender. They have avoided the tax in past but injuries depth issues, and trading away young talent has kept OKC from the title.
Questions are
28-38 Durant mil loses out 60 mil or signs 2017
33 mil 2017 Westbrook others contenders easily have max space. Plus 3 stars.
33 mil Max for Ibaka is he kept play has leveled but he is young and best defender.
RFA front good players who can get better.
28 max for Adams Kanter 17 mil is cheaper
8-14 mil for Robertson
8-12 mil Waiters.
OKC faces repeater tax if they retain talent and actually want to add.
All the big deals also escalate eating 2-3 mil in cap annually for each one of the 4.
Cap may shrink causing harder decision.
Spurs, Clippers, Cavs Warriors have more top players signed long term which is an advantage.
Oh my goodness we know you keep spamming the same thing.
Wait until GSW is paying Barnes 20 mil a year then get back to me.
And again, GSW is not in some amazing financial situation relative to anyone.
Truth be told tho, if GS want Durant, Barnes being let go is one of the ways to do it. And quite honestly, with the way Barnes performed the last 3 games of that series, the Warriors would be crazy bringing him back at that salary. Ezeli too.
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Rafael122 wrote:bondom34 wrote:Warriorfan wrote:
No matter what it's a tough situation for OKC as a contender. They have avoided the tax in past but injuries depth issues, and trading away young talent has kept OKC from the title.
Questions are
28-38 Durant mil loses out 60 mil or signs 2017
33 mil 2017 Westbrook others contenders easily have max space. Plus 3 stars.
33 mil Max for Ibaka is he kept play has leveled but he is young and best defender.
RFA front good players who can get better.
28 max for Adams Kanter 17 mil is cheaper
8-14 mil for Robertson
8-12 mil Waiters.
OKC faces repeater tax if they retain talent and actually want to add.
All the big deals also escalate eating 2-3 mil in cap annually for each one of the 4.
Cap may shrink causing harder decision.
Spurs, Clippers, Cavs Warriors have more top players signed long term which is an advantage.
Oh my goodness we know you keep spamming the same thing.
Wait until GSW is paying Barnes 20 mil a year then get back to me.
And again, GSW is not in some amazing financial situation relative to anyone.
Truth be told tho, if GS want Durant, Barnes being let go is one of the ways to do it. And quite honestly, with the way Barnes performed the last 3 games of that series, the Warriors would be crazy bringing him back at that salary. Ezeli too.
They would, but also Ezeli and some others. They'd lose the bench that made them so deadly, and they'd have zero big men.
His answer to this is always "ring chasing vets". Which is what they had in Andy V. That didn't end well.
Its possible, but to be honest Durant doesn't have that in him, he's spent 9 years being a guy who desperately wants to be loved and be mostly left alone by media. This would be the total opposite of that.
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bondom34 wrote:Warriorfan wrote:bondom34 wrote:Honestly, not worried.
I'd bet a ton of money he stays. I haven't seen a report that I trust, given what he's said.
No matter what it's a tough situation for OKC as a contender. They have avoided the tax in past but injuries depth issues, and trading away young talent has kept OKC from the title.
Questions are
28-38 Durant mil loses out 60 mil or signs 2017
33 mil 2017 Westbrook others contenders easily have max space. Plus 3 stars.
33 mil Max for Ibaka is he kept play has leveled but he is young and best defender.
RFA front good players who can get better.
28 max for Adams Kanter 17 mil is cheaper
8-14 mil for Robertson
8-12 mil Waiters.
OKC faces repeater tax if they retain talent and actually want to add.
All the big deals also escalate eating 2-3 mil in cap annually for each one of the 4.
Cap may shrink causing harder decision.
Spurs, Clippers, Cavs Warriors have more top players signed long term which is an advantage.
Oh my goodness we know you keep spamming the same thing. You keep on posting resigning Durant etc is not a problem.
Wait until GSW is paying Barnes 20 mil a year then get back to me.
They can let him go.
And again, GSW is not in some amazing financial situation relative to anyone.
Stephen Curry contract 12 million 2018 33 mil.
Draymond Green 16.4
Klay Thompson 17.8
Spurs 65 mil Parker 15.4 , Leonard 19 LMA 21.5
Clippers 70 mil Griffin 21.3 CP3 24.2, Jordan 22.5
Clev TT 16.4, Irving 16.9, Love 22.5 LeBron 38 mil.
CP3 and Griffin extended leave flexibility 2017
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Nothing is guaranteed. If Durant goes to GSW, there is no guarantee of titles. We still have a rebounding problem to address and have no salary cap room to address it with.
Don't get me wrong, i'd love to have Durant... but after getting rid of Bogut, Ezeli, and Barnes to sign Durant - we're kinda short on decent centers... and we were exposed by OKC and CLE (and to a lessor extent PDX) in the playoffs for being light up front.
I don't think that GSW is necessarily such a better situation than OKC is for Durant. Now that goes away if the Warriors are able to sign someone like Pau Gasol or basically some other vet to a huge discount (space exception). And that is possible... but not a foregone conclusion.
Don't get me wrong, i'd love to have Durant... but after getting rid of Bogut, Ezeli, and Barnes to sign Durant - we're kinda short on decent centers... and we were exposed by OKC and CLE (and to a lessor extent PDX) in the playoffs for being light up front.
I don't think that GSW is necessarily such a better situation than OKC is for Durant. Now that goes away if the Warriors are able to sign someone like Pau Gasol or basically some other vet to a huge discount (space exception). And that is possible... but not a foregone conclusion.
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Warriorfan wrote:bondom34 wrote:Warriorfan wrote:
No matter what it's a tough situation for OKC as a contender. They have avoided the tax in past but injuries depth issues, and trading away young talent has kept OKC from the title.
Questions are
28-38 Durant mil loses out 60 mil or signs 2017
33 mil 2017 Westbrook others contenders easily have max space. Plus 3 stars.
33 mil Max for Ibaka is he kept play has leveled but he is young and best defender.
RFA front good players who can get better.
28 max for Adams Kanter 17 mil is cheaper
8-14 mil for Robertson
8-12 mil Waiters.
OKC faces repeater tax if they retain talent and actually want to add.
All the big deals also escalate eating 2-3 mil in cap annually for each one of the 4.
Cap may shrink causing harder decision.
Spurs, Clippers, Cavs Warriors have more top players signed long term which is an advantage.
Oh my goodness we know you keep spamming the same thing. You keep on posting resigning Durant etc is not a problem.
Wait until GSW is paying Barnes 20 mil a year then get back to me.
They can let him go.
And again, GSW is not in some amazing financial situation relative to anyone.
Stephen Curry contract 12 million 2018 33 mil.
Draymond Green 15
Klay Thompson 16
Spurs 50 mil Parker 12 , Leonard 16 LMA 21
Clippers 70 mil Griffin 22, CP3 24, Jordan 21
Yes we all know.
And Curry will be paid soon.
And you don't have a single big man on the roster with this plan.
And enjoy paying Barnes.
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bondom34 wrote:Warriorfan wrote:bondom34 wrote:Oh my goodness we know you keep spamming the same thing. You keep on posting resigning Durant etc is not a problem.
Wait until GSW is paying Barnes 20 mil a year then get back to me.
They can let him go.
And again, GSW is not in some amazing financial situation relative to anyone.
Stephen Curry contract 12 million 2018 33 mil.
Draymond Green 15
Klay Thompson 16
Spurs 50 mil Parker 12 , Leonard 16 LMA 21
Clippers 70 mil Griffin 22, CP3 24, Jordan 21
Yes we all know.
And Curry will be paid soon.
And you don't have a single big man on the roster with this plan.
And enjoy paying Barnes.
Don't be mean. I don't think we'll enjoy Barnes for free.
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bondom34 wrote:Warriorfan wrote:bondom34 wrote:Oh my goodness we know you keep spamming the same thing. You keep on posting resigning Durant etc is not a problem.
Wait until GSW is paying Barnes 20 mil a year then get back to me.
They can let him go.
And again, GSW is not in some amazing financial situation relative to anyone.
Stephen Curry contract 12 million 2018 33 mil.
Draymond Green 15
Klay Thompson 16
Spurs 50 mil Parker 12 , Leonard 16 LMA 21
Clippers 70 mil Griffin 22, CP3 24, Jordan 21
Yes we all know.
And Curry will be paid soon.
And you don't have a single big man on the roster with this plan.
And enjoy paying Barnes.
FYI Green is 2nd team all NBA PF and plays C sometimes so yes they have a bigman
. Plus have almost 60 mil to find some more.
If you say GS has 0 big men one can question how much you know about nba besides your own team.
For the record I'd pass on Durant ,1 of my fav players, at 40 mil since GS doesn't need him to get a championship or win a lot of games.
Plus the other contenders except SA don't necessarily need a 4th max player.
Prefer quality depth.
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bmurph128 wrote:SF_Warriors wrote:bmurph128 wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't think Durant would make the Warriors that much better?
If Curry and Thompson were relegated to just 3 point shooters, then I think they would keep their record around where it is (they can't improve it). But I don't see that happening. Thompson would be relegated to nothing but a 3 and d player.
Also, Iguadala's defense was HUGE in their 3-1 comeback against OKC...now we're basically taking Iggy out??
Durant is one of the greatest players in the nba. And klay and/or curry would thrive as spot up shooters, and of course can be go-to guys when KD is sitting or when he is cold that night. Trust me, having three of the most deadliest shooters in the world who can also create their own shots is not anywhere close to an issue and will open up the game for everyone.
Honestly, if you do not think adding a superstar to a great core is beneficial , than you really do not understand basketball.
For instance, Lebron to miami..sure wade and bosh's stats took a hit, but they won two rings out of it. That's a fair trade off if you ask me. We arent talking about adding aldridge to an aging core. We are talking about adding someone much better to a cor ein its absolute prime here.
Also KD > both HB and Andre combined
I understand the depth concerns, but those can be addressed by vet minimum ring chasers..and that is okay because that is all that will be needed with four all stars, two of them being superstars on the same squad.
As far as record goes, I think the move will be for dominating the playoffs, not the regular season.
Adding Durant would be obviously beneficial in some ways.
LeBron to Miami was different - for one, he's far better than Durant. For another, he came in and was THE guy.
Is that what happens when he comes to Golden State? One of Curry/Thompson/Durant would see a drastic decrease in possessions and stats. This could definitely make the Warriors better...but when they won it all their strength was their defense and Durant is not as good a defender as Iguadala.
This is not like getting LeBron where he can be a lock down defender. You'd be swapping defense for offense when your offense at times couldn't get any better anyways.
Durant would likely guarantee coming out of the West for a while, but I wouldn't crown them right away until I see how their defense looks with that lineup.
There were a lot of questions as to Lebron's fit next to wade and who would really be the main option..hell people still have debates on who "the man" is in okc..my answer to how he would fit next to curry, I think it will sort itself out and they can be options 1A and 1B sort of like current day okc
Lebron is a better player, but KD would be joining a better core. And lebron is not "far" superior than KD. KD is an nba superstar for chrissake..And it is arguable that steph and kd are a better fit together than lbj and wade were..klay is more of an ideal 3rd option anyway, and green is better as a fourth option/facilitator.
And andre on defense is great, but we wouldnt need him to guard KD anymore, and its not like he had a great defensive series against lebron anyways..KD is underrated on defense as well. And no they are not swapping offense for defense that is like the most simplistic way of looking at it and a very generic statement
Let me put it this way..absolutely no team would take HB&Andre over KD no matter how bad the defense on the team currently is...that includes the warriors. Besides, they can always find defensive specialists to fill out the roster. Elite players dont come along often, giving up an opportunity to acquire one for fear of fit is just ridiculous. SUperstar players have skillsets that can adapt to most if not all situations.




