[2017 NBA Draft Discussion] - (1: PHI, 2: LAL, 3: BOS)!

sule · Post #81 » by **sule** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:17 am

PockyCandy wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:Danny Ainge to the competition

He had a better throwing motion than Tebow.

He was drafted by the Blue Jays and played 3 years in the minors as a 2B.

Pr0nzingis · Post #82 » by **Pr0nzingis** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:18 am

robbie84 wrote:He's set up the C's for a very, very nice future. Still a way to go but he's done an amazing job getting them to this point from the KG/Pierce trade.

Anyway, just hope Mr. Ainge gets recognition he deserves.

It wasn't him, it was Billy King. He is like the modern day Isiah Thomas, setting other teams for success.

sule · Post #83 » by **sule** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:26 am

shangrila wrote:It would be a little funny if they got Ball, though his dad promises to provide lols no matter where Lonzo ends up

I want Sacramento to move up the lottery and get the 2nd pick. The lulz to be had between Vivek and Lavar Ball would be endless.

MotownMadness · Post #84 » by **MotownMadness** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:51 am

Must be nice

OrlandoDream · Post #85 » by **OrlandoDream** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:57 am

sule wrote:
shangrila wrote:It would be a little funny if they got Ball, though his dad promises to provide lols no matter where Lonzo ends up

I want Sacramento to move up the lottery and get the 2nd pick. The lulz to be had between Vivek and Lavar Ball would be endless.

Won't happen. Philly has the right to switch picks with Sacramento. If Kings land the #2, philly would just take that and give the Kings wherever Philly lands.

Post #86 » by **Froob** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:59 am

rogers49 wrote:Brooklyn picks are nearing to the end and so long all draftees have been busts.

Brown has been a bust? :lol:

Tigersrule · Post #87 » by **Tigersrule** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:33 am

Refs are gonna rig it for the Lakers lol..just wait

SMTBSI · Post #88 » by **SMTBSI** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:49 am

rogers49 wrote:Brooklyn picks are nearing to the end and so long all draftees have been busts.

James Young: 17th in '14. Yup, he busted. Sucks, but picks in that range are a crap shoot.
Jaylen Brown: Rookie season not even over, has had his ups and downs. Long, long way from "busted" though.
'17BRK: Hasn't suited up yet. Best odds at #1 overall.
'18BRK: Remains to be seen, but very likely to be at least a decent pick.

Tell me again how the gravy train is "nearing to the end". It won't be over until all those players have a.) busted, b.) arrived, or c.) been transformed into other assets.

Pr0nzingis wrote:It wasn't him, it was Billy King. He is like the modern day Isiah Thomas, setting other teams for success.

So, we went from 25 wins to 51-and-counting in three seasons, without any of King's picks even contributing yet... how? The King picks are super-sweet, but dude hasn't exactly been resting on his laurels while waiting for them.

TinmanZBoy · Post #89 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:50 am

could be a curse for the Celtics...

wigglestrue · Post #90 » by **wigglestrue** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:52 am

MartinToVaught wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:Doc Rivers is absolutely in the conversation with Billy King.

Did doc rivers trade a lottery pick to rent a bench player for three months on a team with no playoff hopes and then overpay that same guy in free agency?

He traded a first-round pick to rent Jeff Green, who was absolute garbage, for a couple months and then not even resign him. He traded another first round pick in order to dump Jared Dudley after a year. And he cost us an unprotected first-rounder to begin with. He's wasted the picks he's had on redundant low-ceiling prospects who don't even get to play. He traded Eric Bledsoe for trash. He gave Jamal Crawford $42 million last offseason.

I still think King's worse, but Doc is up there.

Your signature reminds me of a YTMND page I created over a decade ago. If it helps you feel better, Doc then pwned me by coaching us to a championship. On the other hand, he is apparently a much much worse GM than a coach. So, yeah.

http://firedoc.ytmnd.com

robbie84 · Post #91 » by **robbie84** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:56 am

TinmanZBoy wrote:could be a curse for the Celtics...

After missing out on Durant and having Len Bias and Reggie Lewis pass away, you cannnot get any more cursed than the Celtics.
Thank christ there are 5 solid picks in this draft even if we do get shafted by the bball gods.

Alonzo_Morning · Post #92 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:14 am

They've got Brooklyn's 2018 pick too? Unprotected?

Stop stop he's already dead

GreenBloodedC · Post #93 » by **GreenBloodedC** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:21 am

robbie84 wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:could be a curse for the Celtics...

After missing out on Durant and having Len Bias and Reggie Lewis pass away, you cannnot get any more cursed than the Celtics.
Thank christ there are 5 solid picks in this draft even if we do get shafted by the bball gods.

Don't forget Duncan

baldur · Post #94 » by **baldur** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:33 am

who are they going to pick assuming 3rd or 4th spot they grab and ball-fultz duo is gone? jackson or tatum?

rugbyrugger23 · Post #95 » by **rugbyrugger23** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:11 am

Since Ainge didn't trade for a Butler, Cousins or George at '17 deadline, it's obvious what his plan is this offseason. He will clear cap holds, NG contracts, etc. for a all-in big name free agent offseason. Hayward is the leader in the clubhouse.

My hope is he has the contracts left over to ALSO consolidation trade for Butler. Walking away with Butler and Hayward (even at cost of Brown and BKN 2017 1st) is an awesome offseason.

baldur · Post #96 » by **baldur** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:14 am

sorry, multiple posts.

nybluemeadow · Post #97 » by **nybluemeadow** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:18 am

Boston should draft Ball and either keep him (pair him up with IT) or trade him to the Lakers for #2, #33, and Ivica Zubac

robbie84 · Post #98 » by **robbie84** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:19 am

rugbyrugger23 wrote:Since Ainge didn't trade for a Butler, Cousins or George at '17 deadline, it's obvious what his plan is this offseason. He will clear cap holds, NG contracts, etc. for a all-in big name free agent offseason. Hayward is the leader in the clubhouse.

My hope is he has the contracts left over to ALSO consolidation trade for Butler. Walking away with Butler and Hayward (even at cost of Brown and BKN 2017 1st) is an awesome offseason.

I don't think we give up that much for Butler.
Maybe the 2018 Brooklyn pick and Avery Bradley+other later 1st round picks. Only way we give up the 2017 pick is if it falls to #3 or #4.
I think Brown is untouchable in a PG or Butler trade btw.

ajones9219 · Post #99 » by **ajones9219** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:05 pm

rogers49 wrote:Brooklyn picks are nearing to the end and so long all draftees have been busts.

James Young. Jaylen Brown is FAR from a bust

rugbyrugger23 · Post #100 » by **rugbyrugger23** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:20 pm

robbie84 wrote:
rugbyrugger23 wrote:Since Ainge didn't trade for a Butler, Cousins or George at '17 deadline, it's obvious what his plan is this offseason. He will clear cap holds, NG contracts, etc. for a all-in big name free agent offseason. Hayward is the leader in the clubhouse.

My hope is he has the contracts left over to ALSO consolidation trade for Butler. Walking away with Butler and Hayward (even at cost of Brown and BKN 2017 1st) is an awesome offseason.

I don't think we give up that much for Butler.
Maybe the 2018 Brooklyn pick and Avery Bradley+other later 1st round picks. Only way we give up the 2017 pick is if it falls to #3 or #4.
I think Brown is untouchable in a PG or Butler trade btw.

Its good to want things. Problem is the asking price isn't determined by buyer (Ainge) rather seller. And with other teams bidding, who also have a staggering amounts of assets, like Lakers (if keep pick)-Nuggets-Suns-and my sleeper team Magic, Celtics will have to pay.

BTW that isn't even what Love fetched and Butler will require more.