Phoenex GM Ryan McDonough gets revenge on Danny Ainge for the Isaiah trade, through the draft

[bwgood77]

Meh

Jackson can't shoot.

Tatum is an ISO Chucker who cant shoot 3's or guard NBA SF's.

Meh - easy game to play

This is a stupid game to play that prob is going to end with some comment about Jackson threatening women. Who care's, all these arguements on who drafted the best player are so pathetic. These kids, especially now that everyone is a one and done never exactly pan out as predicted unless you're drafting Duncan or Lebron. I wouldn't be surprised if Smith Jr or Isaac ended up he two best of the draft class. People should at least hold up on the trash talk until we see these kid play some regular season games, because despite what we want to believe, our judgement isn't as good as the GM making decisions(unless you're Billy King). I will also say with most of these kids being freshman coming out maturity and personality are more important than ever.

Amen

[King4Day]

Congrats to the Suns on Josh Jackson but the IT trade has helped the Celtics win more games and go farther than their 20 year old core will in the next 3-5 years.

The IT trade also helped the Suns land Booker and Chriss.
With IT, the Suns likely finish 14th worst and OKC takes Booker.
Without the first, we don't get Chriss.

No doubt the C's won that trade but let's not act like even Boston knew he'd be this good. They will have to pay him soon and have a 4-5 year window to win it all while the Warriors are running the show.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Well the stats say he is better 3pt shooter

And the predictive analytics say that Tatum will be a much better shooter at the next level.

This is really a foolish argument. There are many reasons to argue why you like Jackson better than Tatum. Shooting isn't one of them.

Those analytics also said Booker would be an elite shooter, hasnt turned out that way yet.

So that means that the exception to the rule bears more weight than the rule?

[bwgood77]

Explain revenge.

We still have Thomas.

And we have Tatum and they are stuck with the guy who can't shoot

If the Celtics drafted Jackson instead of Tatum, there's no doubt thst you'd be telling us how Tatum can only score while Jackson does it all.....

Since you'renap opinionated and sure of this.

Use the feature that allows you to search my post.

In fact. Let me point You To the right thread.

2017 draft thread number 2 and watch my explosion of anger towards danny that directly led to my current signature. When it appeared that he traded fultz for Jackson. Lost my mind

No need for Jackson when we already got brown who can't shoot.

Yeah, I felt that way too, because Jackson is very similar in profile to Brown, and you could use some more scoring there, rather than another Brown.

But yeah, I wouldn't be happy if I traded out of Fultz either. I mean maybe I'd be more ok with it as a Phx fan who need a defensive wing, but still thought a Fultz/Booker backcourt would have been nice too.

[Patsfan1081]

25 years ago Ainge left John Paxton 15 feet open.

Yesterday Ainge left Josh Jackson 15 minutes open.

I hope they both end up with championships on the end of it.

He had Tatum #1, man. If you want to convince yourself that your GM manufactured this, knock yourself out. Just know that your lying to yourself.

If he had Tatum #1 then like we said before, this is a non story and is only being brought up by salty celtics fans because they wanted Jackson whether they want to admit it or not.

It's a story because ESPN is trying to make it one, not because a Celtic fan linked it. I wanted Jackson over Tatum, actually I wanted Fultz most of all, that has nothing to do though if I would find possible collusion(which ESPN is attempting to hint at to drum up interest) a interesting story. McDonough's wording was a bit suspect when explaining the situation, I will say that.

[The Corey's]

If the Celtics drafted Jackson instead of Tatum, there's no doubt thst you'd be telling us how Tatum can only score while Jackson does it all.....

Since you'renap opinionated and sure of this.

Use the feature that allows you to search my post.

In fact. Let me point You To the right thread.

2017 draft thread number 2 and watch my explosion of anger towards danny that directly led to my current signature. When it appeared that he traded fultz for Jackson. Lost my mind

No need for Jackson when we already got brown who can't shoot.

Yeah, I felt that way too, because Jackson is very similar in profile to Brown, and you could use some more scoring there, rather than another Brown.

But yeah, I wouldn't be happy if I traded out of Fultz either. I mean maybe I'd be more ok with it as a Phx fan who need a defensive wing, but still thought a Fultz/Booker backcourt would have been nice too.

I just think that fultz, if develops the way he's projected.

He has more value in 2 years if danny truly wanted to trade him.

The theory was he traded him before the draft cause he had other plans for the draft. As it turned out he did not.

I don't think danny got enough.

It's whatever now. Hopefully next year we get a player better than fultz and make up for it.

[The_Hater]

If the Celtics drafted Jackson instead of Tatum, there's no doubt thst you'd be telling us how Tatum can only score while Jackson does it all.....

Since you'renap opinionated and sure of this.

Use the feature that allows you to search my post.

In fact. Let me point You To the right thread.

2017 draft thread number 2 and watch my explosion of anger towards danny that directly led to my current signature. When it appeared that he traded fultz for Jackson. Lost my mind

No need for Jackson when we already got brown who can't shoot.

Yeah, I felt that way too, because Jackson is very similar in profile to Brown, and you could use some more scoring there, rather than another Brown.

But yeah, I wouldn't be happy if I traded out of Fultz either. I mean maybe I'd be more ok with it as a Phx fan who need a defensive wing, but still thought a Fultz/Booker backcourt would have been nice too.

If they drafted Jackson, my guess is Brown would have been out the door as part of a Butler or George deal. Jackson should be the much better NBA player of the two.

[The Corey's]

Since you'renap opinionated and sure of this.

Use the feature that allows you to search my post.

In fact. Let me point You To the right thread.

2017 draft thread number 2 and watch my explosion of anger towards danny that directly led to my current signature. When it appeared that he traded fultz for Jackson. Lost my mind

No need for Jackson when we already got brown who can't shoot.

Yeah, I felt that way too, because Jackson is very similar in profile to Brown, and you could use some more scoring there, rather than another Brown.

But yeah, I wouldn't be happy if I traded out of Fultz either. I mean maybe I'd be more ok with it as a Phx fan who need a defensive wing, but still thought a Fultz/Booker backcourt would have been nice too.

If they drafted Jackson, my guess is Brown would have been out the door as part of a Butler or George deal. Jackson should be the much better NBA player of the two.

Maybe brown would of been traded sure. However it's clear that butler was never in our plans.

Thank God too

[Dan Z]

Phoenex?

[The_Hater]

Yeah, I felt that way too, because Jackson is very similar in profile to Brown, and you could use some more scoring there, rather than another Brown.

But yeah, I wouldn't be happy if I traded out of Fultz either. I mean maybe I'd be more ok with it as a Phx fan who need a defensive wing, but still thought a Fultz/Booker backcourt would have been nice too.

If they drafted Jackson, my guess is Brown would have been out the door as part of a Butler or George deal. Jackson should be the much better NBA player of the two.

Maybe brown would of been traded sure. However it's clear that butler was never in our plans.

Thank God too

Thank God you didn't trade for one of the top 12-14 players in the league? OK....

[bwgood77]

If they drafted Jackson, my guess is Brown would have been out the door as part of a Butler or George deal. Jackson should be the much better NBA player of the two.

Maybe brown would of been traded sure. However it's clear that butler was never in our plans.

Thank God too

Thank God you didn't trade for one of the top 12-14 players in the league? OK....

You know, when I saw his post about "Thank God for not trading for him" it reminded me of a Zach Lowe article I read today about how Butler couldn't stand the laid back coach in Hoiberg and made fun of him (or something along those lines) and that it made other players uncomfortable. Said he craved and needs a hard ass coach.

And I thought of Brad Stevens.

Of course I thought of Earl Watson too only because of course on our trade thread his name pops up even though it makes no sense for us..

[The Corey's]

If they drafted Jackson, my guess is Brown would have been out the door as part of a Butler or George deal. Jackson should be the much better NBA player of the two.

Maybe brown would of been traded sure. However it's clear that butler was never in our plans.

Thank God too

Thank God you didn't trade for one of the top 12-14 players in the league? OK....

We don't need to argue if butler is top 15. Cause he isn't.

Let's stick with yhe argument of if that guy moves the needle for the Celtics. It doesn't. Not even a little.

No need to give the bulls our assets for a guy who doesn't change a thing.

That wolves offer danny could **** out on better than that without even involving Tatum. Brown or the nets or Lakers pick

People want more from us because we have more. Which isn't how it works.

[The_Hater]

Maybe brown would of been traded sure. However it's clear that butler was never in our plans.

Thank God too

Thank God you didn't trade for one of the top 12-14 players in the league? OK....

We don't need to argue if butler is top 15. Cause he isn't.

Let's stick with yhe argument of if that guy moves the needle for the Celtics. It doesn't. Not even a little.

No need to give the bulls our assets for a guy who doesn't change a thing.

That wolves offer danny could **** out on better than that without even involving Tatum. Brown or the nets or Lakers pick

People want more from us because we have more. Which isn't how it works.

You're just full of foolish posts tonight aren't you?

G'night and good luck.

[The Corey's]

Thank God you didn't trade for one of the top 12-14 players in the league? OK....

We don't need to argue if butler is top 15. Cause he isn't.

Let's stick with yhe argument of if that guy moves the needle for the Celtics. It doesn't. Not even a little.

No need to give the bulls our assets for a guy who doesn't change a thing.

That wolves offer danny could **** out on better than that without even involving Tatum. Brown or the nets or Lakers pick

People want more from us because we have more. Which isn't how it works.

You're just full of foolish posts tonight aren't you?

G'night and good luck.

Yea it's foolish to give up Crowder, Bradley, Nets pick and brown for butler.

It was a huge missed opportunity on Ainge part. FIRE HIM!

[DaleyBlind]

I don't think arguing about who is a better shooter between Tatum and Jackson makes sense, because, having been on the Suns forum leading up to the draft, 99% of Suns fans would readily say Tatum is a better shooter. So I'd probably ignore any Suns fan who says otherwise.

Tatum's shot looks better, numbers say Jackson is the better 3pt shooter though.

Yeah, we know the percentages you posted. We're not stupid. But stop derailing this thread with this crap because it's pointless and irritating.

Sorry for pointing out facts.

[visionquest]

Turns out Ainge only wanted the Air Miles.

[no dice]

Why would anyone still use bj Armstrong as an agent? Didn't he screw over some of his players real bad in the past?

[Damkac]

Boston has plenty of athletic defensive wings so they drafted talented scorer.
Phoenix has plenty of talented scorers so they drafted athletic defensive wing.

I don't see any problem. Can we all now hug each other and be friends now?

[ATLTimekeeper]

It doesn't sound like revenge, but McDonough hints he had a part to play. So obviously he felt like the Celtics were interested enough to fly out the whole crew and they'd be so bothered by the cancellation that it would change their thinking on draft night. Not saying that Tatum wasn't their first choice all along, but that a former Celtic exec had an idea on how he might secure the guy he wanted by convincing his former team to pass.

[LakerLegend]

Phoenix should ship out Chandler while he still has some value.