Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination?

eagereyez · Post #81 » by **eagereyez** » Tue May 29, 2018 4:38 am

KHRICH wrote:
thelarrybirdx wrote:They’re the worst team in the NBA and located in Phoenix lol. This isn’t rocket science

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Whats wrong with PHX? I understand players not going to that losing culture as of late but the location itself is wonderful.

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ChuckChilly · Post #82 » by **ChuckChilly** » Tue May 29, 2018 4:42 am

What happened to the days of everyone wanting to go to Phoenix because of having the best training staff and good health inducing weather in the league?

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PhilBlackson · Post #83 » by **PhilBlackson** » Tue May 29, 2018 4:43 am

They just finished with the worst record in the league would likely be the first reason.

OzzyAZ · Post #84 » by **OzzyAZ** » Tue May 29, 2018 5:19 am

Wilber85 wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:
You can't be serious. Ever hear of the Grand freaking Canyon?

Yea I know about that, but what else is there?

Desert (Dirt bikes, Four Wheeling), Lakes, Float the river, Casinos, Fun Night life, Good places to eat, hiking, mountains, beautiful women

Also outside of phoenix

Sedona, Hiking, Red Rocks, Flagstaff, skiing, grand canyon, havasupai falls, antelope canyon, cliff jumping, beaver falls, Jerome Ghost Town, Tombstone, Sand Dunes out in Yuma, Lake Havasu, colorado river

Are you from Brooklyn or NYC? TBH all you can do there is Eat, Sporting events, go out at night, and site see the architecture.

This, plus great bass fishing surrounding the city and trout/pike fishing a bit up north. Anyone who lives in The Valley and finds it boring is doing it wrong.

saintEscaton · Post #85 » by **saintEscaton** » Tue May 29, 2018 7:45 pm

Ryan McDonough is a clown

Optms · Post #86 » by **Optms** » Tue May 29, 2018 7:48 pm

ChuckChilly wrote:What happened to the days of everyone wanting to go to Phoenix because of having the best training staff and good health inducing weather in the league?

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Who didn't want to play with Nash during his reign? He was getting a lot of role players paid. Those days are long gone.

Revived · Post #87 » by **Revived** » Tue May 29, 2018 11:22 pm

My Main Man wrote:
KHRICH wrote:
thelarrybirdx wrote:They’re the worst team in the NBA and located in Phoenix lol. This isn’t rocket science

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Whats wrong with PHX? I understand players not going to that losing culture as of late but the location itself is wonderful.

As a Minnesotan, when people talk about the awful cold in the north, I always wonder why Phoenix doesn’t get a similarly bad rap. I genuinely enjoy snow and cold and much prefer it to heat. My brother lived in Phoenix for a few years. I visited him in August one time and I swear to god I thought I was going to die. Give me 20 degrees and snow over 100+ heat any day.

Because in the summer NBA players usually leave and go hangout in their hometown cities or in LA or whatever anyway. In the winter, they can't get away like that because its in the middle of the season.

NashtyNas · Post #88 » by **NashtyNas** » Tue May 29, 2018 11:30 pm

Laimbeer wrote:A half century with no titles and desert heat. What more could you want?

Almost every fan in Cleveland would move to Phoenix if given the chance.

RunSunRun · Post #89 » by **RunSunRun** » Wed May 30, 2018 12:00 am

Hi, I feel like I need to inform people that we have these wonderful inventions called air conditioners out here in pretty much every building. We also have somehow managed to put bodies of water in our backyards called "pools".

People acting like we're living in the early 1900s out here. Yeah, the heat can be a little rough, but its easy to deal with. As someone who moved here from Jersey, I'll take the heat over the snow anyday.

flintsky21 · Post #90 » by **flintsky21** » Wed May 30, 2018 12:26 am

I think they've got the best shooter in the league outside of the Splash Brothers in Devin Booker, so if they want to go the Houston Rockets "live and die by the 3" route (which as the Rockets have shown, is the only way any team can have a puncher's chance against the Warriors), then they've already got a great starting piece. Obviously they'll need much more but having the top pick is another good step. Get Ayton and you got a freakish 5 that can shoot the 3. Or get Doncic and you can have a 6'8" PG that can also shoot the 3 well. And maybe Dragan Bender might take that next step in his development. Move guys like Warren and Chriss for some 3 and D guys and maybe you got yourself a Houston Rockets lite but much younger.

R-DAWG · Post #91 » by **R-DAWG** » Thu May 31, 2018 12:25 am

Because teams loaded with young guys don't win in the playoffs. I know you say look at Philly and look at Boston and I say look at the rest of the East. If Boston and Philly were in the West they aren't the 2-3 seeds, they are the 6-7 seeds, and likely lose to Portland and New Orleans in the first round (PLEASE NOTE THIS YEARS TEAMS WITH THE SAME HEALTH).

Revived · Post #92 » by **Revived** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:25 pm

Scalabrine wrote:Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination?

They are being talked as a max FA destination. Capela has been linked to them many times.

8on · Post #93 » by **8on** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:27 pm

Larry Legend 33 wrote:Because people are clamoring to join a team who has a 25% winning record over the past ~3-4 years. Look at Philly

I couldn’t agree more

8on · Post #94 » by **8on** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:29 pm

Optms wrote:
ChuckChilly wrote:What happened to the days of everyone wanting to go to Phoenix because of having the best training staff and good health inducing weather in the league?

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Who didn't want to play with Nash during his reign? He was getting a lot of role players paid. Those days are long gone.

This is particularly relevant because Miami and Cleveland were doing great before LeBron came back

8on · Post #95 » by **8on** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:30 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:They just finished with the worst record in the league would likely be the first reason.

You have no idea what it’s like to triple your wins.

Wait....

8on · Post #96 » by **8on** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:33 pm

nedleeds wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
nedleeds wrote:Because they have **** up their draft so badly they have basically no compelling young stars to play with. Perhaps if they draft Doncic this year and don't screw it up with Ayton they can salvage things.

2012 - Kendall Marshall #13 ... out of the league
2013 - Alex Len at **** #5 ... renounced and incinerated as though they never had a pick
2014 - TJ Warren at #14 ... rotation wing who shoots 22% from 3 after his 4th year in the league
2015 - Devin Booker at at #13 ... a good pick and maybe the best reason to come play here. If he had a good PG or creator you'd think he could be a more positive player and less of a chucker. Doesn't play defense, but not for lack of size or athleticism.
2016 - Dragan Bender at #4 and threw Bogdan, Skal and Papa-G to move up and take Chriss. Chriss is the dumbest knucklehead I've ever seen in team sports history. A Morriss twin with none of their basketball skills. Bender is a least not mentally impaired, but hasn't shown a ton he's barely 21 though. Again nothing any free agent is going to consider an asset.
2017 - Josh Jackson at #4 ... another medium size wing who can't hit water with an oar. Unplayable offensive player whose defense amounted to a -1.2 DPM. His form is wretched and broken, barring a massive overhaul he'll never be an average shooter. Sign me up to throw passes to that guy in the corner.

Constantly being in the lottery and never having an all star come from it is why.

And the knicks are good.

Cracks me up.

TJ Warren is a good scorer and has improved
Josh Jackson had a good rookie season, and got better every game (He would be the #2 on the knicks behind Porzingis)
Booker - Stud!

Where did I mention the Knicks being good? They are awful and should be tanking. Unfortunately it's hard to tank with a healthy KP. The Suns obviously don't have that problem since nobody on their roster is remotely as good. The ACL came too late for the Knicks to catch the Suns massive tank.

The philosophy was pretty simple since 2013: get two stars. Don’t settle. We whiffed a couple times, absolutely, but Bender and Chriss are improving (both 20 years old) and Jackson had a wonderful second half to his rookie season.

Jadoogar · Post #97 » by **Jadoogar** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:34 pm

Wilber85 wrote:
nedleeds wrote:Because they have **** up their draft so badly they have basically no compelling young stars to play with. Perhaps if they draft Doncic this year and don't screw it up with Ayton they can salvage things.

2012 - Kendall Marshall #13 ... out of the league
2013 - Alex Len at **** #5 ... renounced and incinerated as though they never had a pick
2014 - TJ Warren at #14 ... rotation wing who shoots 22% from 3 after his 4th year in the league
2015 - Devin Booker at at #13 ... a good pick and maybe the best reason to come play here. If he had a good PG or creator you'd think he could be a more positive player and less of a chucker. Doesn't play defense, but not for lack of size or athleticism.
2016 - Dragan Bender at #4 and threw Bogdan, Skal and Papa-G to move up and take Chriss. Chriss is the dumbest knucklehead I've ever seen in team sports history. A Morriss twin with none of their basketball skills. Bender is a least not mentally impaired, but hasn't shown a ton he's barely 21 though. Again nothing any free agent is going to consider an asset.
2017 - Josh Jackson at #4 ... another medium size wing who can't hit water with an oar. Unplayable offensive player whose defense amounted to a -1.2 DPM. His form is wretched and broken, barring a massive overhaul he'll never be an average shooter. Sign me up to throw passes to that guy in the corner.

Constantly being in the lottery and never having an all star come from it is why.

And the knicks are good.

Cracks me up.

TJ Warren is a good scorer and has improved
Josh Jackson had a good rookie season, and got better every game (He would be the #2 on the knicks behind Porzingis)
Booker - Stud!

I don't agree with the OP about Jackson but that's a weird response (the other point are all fair). No where did he mention the knicks being good. Just because he supports a different team means he can't criticize another team?

8on · Post #98 » by **8on** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:34 pm

Karate Diop wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:They're terrible defensively and don't have a core which has proven they can come close to challenging for a playoff spot.

Maybe in a year if Ayton is the real deal they'll be able to garner interest but as is... Why would a max free agent choose Phoenix?

They are filled with young, athletic, shooters and with Ayton and Booker they have two young - future star level players. It's a perfect situation for an existing All-Star alpha to step in and take them to the next level.

I'd take their core over the core of the Lakers for example. Especially as far as complimentary players go.

They're beyond terrible defensively that's going to scare legitimate stars away.

This is relevant because LeBron never had success with two stars like that.

8on · Post #99 » by **8on** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 pm

This thread is going to be hilarious in October.

Scalabrine · Post #100 » by **Scalabrine** » Fri Jun 1, 2018 2:10 pm

Revived wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination?

They are being talked as a max FA destination. Capela has been linked to them many times.

I think giving Capela the max would be a major mistake for them. I'm talking about the true max guys.

LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Paul George, Chris Paul and MAYBE DeMarcus Cousins are the only true max guys.

Guys like Gordon, Capela, Randle, Parker, Lavine, Nurkic are fake max guys that may get close because they are RFA's.