Is Paul George the Most Overrated Player in the NBA?

Red_Bird · Post #81 » by **Red_Bird** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:04 pm

K P 6 wrote:Sorry that title is still with Carmelo Anthony.

I guess you haven't seen how people talk about Melo these days :lol:

CIN-C-STAR · Post #82 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:09 pm

No, instead I think defense is the most underrated aspect of the game for many fans.
Plenty of "superstars" are terrible on defense, and they still win MVP awards and no one blinks an eye.
But if an elite defender is only good on offense everyone loses their mind about how overrated they are.

F N 11 · Post #83 » by **F N 11** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:05 pm

Red_Bird wrote:
K P 6 wrote:Sorry that title is still with Carmelo Anthony.

I guess you haven't seen how people talk about Melo these days

When he left the Knicks people were saying how he would be so good once he is off the Knicks and play with better players. He played worse and got excuses about Westbrook being hard to play with lol.

triple_threat · Post #84 » by **triple_threat** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:16 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:Great 3 and D guy, but yeah he's definitely overrated. A lot of media members keep pronouncing him as a top 15 player when that clearly isn't the case.

Calling him a 3 and D guy is insulting. He is way more versatile than you realize.

Luigi · Post #85 » by **Luigi** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:21 pm

triple_threat wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:Great 3 and D guy, but yeah he's definitely overrated. A lot of media members keep pronouncing him as a top 15 player when that clearly isn't the case.

Calling him a 3 and D guy is insulting. He is way more versatile than you realize.

Agreed. Joe Ingles is so much more than a 3 and D guy. He can also get into the head of a guy like Paul George and make him lose his game in the playoffs. And he has point guard skills despite being so big.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #86 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:33 pm

When Paul George gives a ****, he is underrated. Truly an elite player than can take over on both ends of the floor.

Problem is, he rarely gives a **** and would rather spend most the game camping at the 3 point line and hoisting up bad shots.

I just don't think he loves the game. I don't think he hates it either, or anything like that, but I think its just a job for him. If the game is on National TV, Paul George will most likely show up and dominate. If the game is just local coverage, he is just going to coast through it. PG is a very talented player and him coasting is still better than most in the league, but that mentality wears off on others.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #87 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:37 pm

triple_threat wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:Great 3 and D guy, but yeah he's definitely overrated. A lot of media members keep pronouncing him as a top 15 player when that clearly isn't the case.

Calling him a 3 and D guy is insulting. He is way more versatile than you realize.

Its really not.

Paul George is capable of doing most things on the court, but its rare he actually does it all. As I said in previous post, he spends a lot of games coasting through it.

shza · Post #88 » by **shza** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:50 pm

No, Russell Westbrook is.

DieYoung · Post #89 » by **DieYoung** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:18 pm

He has loads of talent but his shot selection and overall mentality is Carmelo-tier.

Post #90 » by **og15** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:27 pm

Don7 wrote:For his contract not really because he plays to par mostly(Wiggins and others are much worse).

He´s overrated if you feel his top 10 player in the league and that he can be your first option.Because he´s probably not good enough to be second option on championship team even if that team have LeBron , and he caries himself like one.

Does anyone rate Wiggins highly? Minnesota jumped the gun in giving him the extension, but no one really rates him highly

Dominater wrote:I would say Blake, but I'm gathering that secret has already been exposed.

I would have to maybe go KAT here. His defense is so bad that it nullifies all the good he does on offense. Another candidate would be Derozen. He never does anything when it matters

Blake is barely even talked about as a star these days, so I can't really consider him overrated. If you mention Blake most of the talk is about being overrated and/or having declined or not fitting the modern NBA, etc.

In terms of George, consistency is part of being a star. Having spurts of greatness mixed with a lot of mediocre doesn't put you at the top level of stars. Very good player, good 2nd guy depending on the team, great third guy if you can pull that off, but he did get a lot of top 10 sort of burn around him, especially from his short playoff series performances, and realistically he just doesn't give that sort of impact on a regular basis.

Post #91 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:30 pm

I think he’s a bit overrated but he’s still very good and I hope he stays.

Post #92 » by **og15** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:33 pm

CIN-C-STAR wrote:No, instead I think defense is the most underrated aspect of the game for many fans.
Plenty of "superstars" are terrible on defense, and they still win MVP awards and no one blinks an eye.
But if an elite defender is only good on offense everyone loses their mind about how overrated they are.

Doesn't that depend on how they are rated? If they are rated rightly, there's nothing to loose anyone's mind about, but if people are rating George like he's in the class of other guys who also bring it on defense but are also consistently, better/have more impact on offense, then sure, that would be an overrating of him.

ButCanMarkDunk · Post #93 » by **ButCanMarkDunk** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:38 pm

Luigi wrote:
triple_threat wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:Great 3 and D guy, but yeah he's definitely overrated. A lot of media members keep pronouncing him as a top 15 player when that clearly isn't the case.

Calling him a 3 and D guy is insulting. He is way more versatile than you realize.

Agreed. Joe Ingles is so much more than a 3 and D guy. He can also get into the head of a guy like Paul George and make him lose his game in the playoffs. And he has point guard skills despite being so big.

Regardless of what happened last season, I would take George over Ingles every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Never mind a motivated George in LA, if he actually comes.

Luigi · Post #94 » by **Luigi** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:40 pm

ButCanMarkDunk wrote:
Luigi wrote:
triple_threat wrote:
Calling him a 3 and D guy is insulting. He is way more versatile than you realize.

Agreed. Joe Ingles is so much more than a 3 and D guy. He can also get into the head of a guy like Paul George and make him lose his game in the playoffs. And he has point guard skills despite being so big.

Regardless of what happened last season, I would take George over Ingles every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Never mind a motivated George in LA, if he actually comes.

If it's just George and Leonard, we could hope for another first round matchup next year when the Lakers are the 5 seed.

P. George had Westbook and Adams next to him in OKC. He came up very short in the playoffs.

ButCanMarkDunk · Post #95 » by **ButCanMarkDunk** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:45 pm

Seems like playing with GOATbrook isnt what we think it is.

Who knows?

Pachinko_ · Post #96 » by **Pachinko_** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:52 pm

It's pretty sad that so many people believe that all you need for a championship team is 2 or 3 good players. That's where this notion comes from that if you put 2 players together they should make it to the finals as a minimum or they are overrated.

It really reduces basketball to a much less interesting sport than it really is. There's so much more to it than this.

CIN-C-STAR · Post #97 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:54 pm

og15 wrote:
CIN-C-STAR wrote:No, instead I think defense is the most underrated aspect of the game for many fans.
Plenty of "superstars" are terrible on defense, and they still win MVP awards and no one blinks an eye.
But if an elite defender is only good on offense everyone loses their mind about how overrated they are.

Doesn't that depend on how they are rated? If they are rated rightly, there's nothing to loose anyone's mind about, but if people are rating George like he's in the class of other guys who also bring it on defense but are also consistently, better/have more impact on offense, then sure, that would be an overrating of him.

Sure, but I generally see George ranked in the star category, not superstar.
I don't hear people saying he should be considered for MVP or anything. Just that he is a really good player, which he is. I don't hear a lot of people over hyping or anything though.

contestedlayups · Post #98 » by **contestedlayups** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:14 am

This depends on how "overrated" is defined. Is it by contract? If so, Mike Conley, John Wall, Blake Griffin, Andrew Wiggins are all in the mix for that title. If "overrated" is defined by lack of playoff successes, Chris Paul, James Harden, Demar Derozan, Kyle Lowry, Jimmy Butler, Carmelo Anthony are all players that have been to fewer Conference Finals than Paul George. So no, I wouldn't say he's the most overrated.

Luigi · Post #99 » by **Luigi** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:15 am

contestedlayups wrote:This depends on how "overrated" is defined. Is it by contract? If so, Mike Conley, John Wall, Blake Griffin, Andrew Wiggins are all in the mix for that title. If "overrated" is defined by lack of playoff successes, Chris Paul, James Harden, Demar Derozan, Kyle Lowry, Jimmy Butler, Carmelo Anthony are all players that have been to fewer Conference Finals than Paul George. So no, I wouldn't say he's the most overrated.

That is true. George had great playoff runs with the Pacers.

Maybe it's about being overrated right now. Or just for the 2017-18 season. Melo had a worse playoffs than him, but nobody rates him over George right now.

homecourtloss · Post #100 » by **homecourtloss** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:18 am

Pythagoras wrote:He’s not good enough to be the best player on a championship team but he has an incredibly valuable skill set.

Personally I think Embiid is WAY more overrated if we’re talking the most overrated player in the NBA.

Was right with you until I read the bolded.