Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers for Landry Shamet, Two 1st Rnds, Wilson Chandler

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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers 

Post#81 » by Spens1 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:42 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:While Bullock was a very nice pickup for the Lakers, this deal will probably have even more impact on the Lakers' season.


We just got murdered by the Pacers, we have a better shot at Zion than the playoffs at this point.

The Kings are returning to the playoffs :lol: (just hope they get the Nuggets first round).
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Post#82 » by RUN T M C » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:42 am

Unprotected 1st included. Pretty much what N.O. Is searching for.
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Post#83 » by NoZoLakers » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:42 am

XtremeDunkz wrote:Most likely Philly got a commitment from Tobias to resign to trade all that for him.

highly doubt that, harris played today, doubt harris n his agent even knew
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Post#84 » by CoreyGallagher » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:42 am

cool93 wrote:Two 1sts (one with pretty big upside) and very good rookie traded for the right to overpay **** Harris in summer. Guess Colangelo never left..

He’s only 26 and has been among the most prolific scorers in the league this season. Let’s just see how it looks, third options don’t get much better than him and he has a complimentary skill set.

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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers for Landry Shamet, Two 1st Rnds, Wilson Chandler 

Post#85 » by xBulletproof » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:43 am

Jimmy Butler though.

He was already unhappy with his touches wasn't he? This won't help that.
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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers for Landry Shamet, Two 1st Rnds, Wilson Chandler 

Post#86 » by Kabookalu » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:44 am

Wow, didn't know Miami's pick was unprotected. What did they trade?
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Post#87 » by RUN T M C » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:44 am

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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers 

Post#88 » by Spens1 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:45 am

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Spens1 wrote:Ok i get the logic, still a bad deal from the Clippers though. This is basically Landry Shamet and 2 firsts (the 2020 first won't even be good, that 2021 first probably is top 10 i'll admit) for their best player by far. I know the plan is to go get 2 max guys and they probably do that but they could fail that (Kawhi is comfortable in Toronto, everyone will want KD, Klay most likely stays, Butler could end up staying, Kyrie could stay or go elsewhere), then what, you gave up Tobias Harris for nothing. This is basically what the Knicks did but even they prompted and told that KP wouldn't resign.

For the 76ers, they add another piece to the championship puzzle and didn't even give up anyone of value. I don't see how this isn't a win for them.


No, they gave up Tobias Harris for picks and a young player, not nothing. If they don't land anybody, they also have cap space that can be rented out for more picks. You play a year in the lottery land a pick that doesn't go to Boston and try again the year after. If you aren't comfortable building long term with Tobias Harris as a max player, then this is an absolute no brainer. Hell, they just signed Blake and ended up having to flip him a few months later, because they weren't comfortable long term. It made them look kind of bad. Why not skip that step and do it now.


I mean i agree that Tobias isn't a max player but is this it? basically this is a dime to the dollar in terms of return. I agree they shouldn't have agreed to what Harris wanted but 5/100 wouldn't have been bad and again, like the knicks, they're basically gambling on the fact that they land a F.A (i'd know this, the lakers have been doing this hoping and praying for F.A's to come for years, it really isn't that easy).

Now obviously, if they can lure their 2 max F.A's, than this is a win.

I would have thought that if they wanted to deal anyone to clear up cap, it would be to cash up on Gallinari and trade him for expirings.
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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers for Landry Shamet, Two 1st Rnds, Wilson Chandler 

Post#89 » by Basileus777 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:46 am

Well Philly cashed in again and now they're about to lock themselves into the team they have. I'm not sure I would have given up so much for Harris, but both this and the Butler trade shows that Philly's front office doesn't think they can land anyone in free agency, so I don't hate it.
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Post#90 » by Freighttrain » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:46 am

So the Knicks & Clippers are clearing cap to get max free agents, whilst competing with teams like the Lakers & Boston.. One of these franchises are going to be left out and it's going to be ugly in retrospect.
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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers for Landry Shamet, Two 1st Rnds, Wilson Chandler 

Post#91 » by Young gun 6 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:47 am

Kabookalu wrote:Wow, didn't know Miami's pick was unprotected. What did they trade?


Was in the Phoenix trade with Zhaire Smith for Mikal Bridges

Doesn’t have the value that a 2022 would though as its 1 year before the super draft or high school and college players.
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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers 

Post#92 » by CelticsLV » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:47 am

clyde21 wrote:
CelticsLV wrote:Salary wise doesn't seem to work.


21.8mil for 19.5mil

it works


Am I missing something?

Harris - 14.8
Boban - 7
Scott - 4.3

Total - 26.1
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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers 

Post#93 » by sacking123 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:47 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Clippers just threw the season allowing Kings to make playoffs.

Fixed that for you.
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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers for Landry Shamet, Two 1st Rnds, Wilson Chandler 

Post#94 » by 76ciology » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:48 am

I love Tobias. Glad he's with us now
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Post#95 » by NoZoLakers » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:49 am

Freighttrain wrote:So the Knicks & Clippers are clearing cap to get max free agents, whilst competing with teams like the Lakers & Boston.. One of these franchises are going to be left out and it's going to be ugly in retrospect.

i put $ on my lakers to miss followed by bos with irving :lol:
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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers for Landry Shamet, Two 1st Rnds, Wilson Chandler 

Post#96 » by marcush » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:49 am

Still digesting this as a Sixer fan.

Wow....that’s a lot for another rental. A lot.

I think Tobs liked being the man. He’s not going to be that here.

Half the league has max cap space.

Huge risk
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Post#97 » by Prez » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:49 am

First thoughts are that it makes Philly scary good especially after they pick up a solid buyout vet or two, but it's also a crazy amount of value for an expiring. I suppose if they feel confident they can bring back both him and Jimmy it's fine.

Bigger question..is LAC going all in on AD now? Because SGA + four 1sts including that 2021 Miami unprotected is a serious offer.
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Post#98 » by 76ciology » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:50 am

Actually, Sixers is more excited on the Boban-Embiid frontcourt
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Re: Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers 

Post#99 » by Dupp » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:50 am

Don’t love it for philly. Back up plan for when butler walks I guess.

BVB24 wrote:Clippers getting two 1st-round picks & a young talent in Landry Shamet for a guy they were gonna let walk this Summer anyways.


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Post#100 » by CoreyGallagher » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:50 am

xBulletproof wrote:Jimmy Butler though.

He was already unhappy with his touches wasn't he? This won't help that.

Types of touches, he wanted more pick and rolls, and since then he’s been playing stints at PG and getting more.
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