Is Iggy a Hall of Famer

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Will Iguodola make the HOF?

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No
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Total votes: 394

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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#81 » by BigShaq34 » Sat May 18, 2019 6:24 am

pagal wrote:If bums like Pierce are going to eventually end up there, I don't see any reason why Iggy shouldn't make it. The standards are quite low for Basketball HoF compared to other major sports.

Paul pierce had a much better career than Iggy wtf
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#82 » by Winsome Gerbil » Sat May 18, 2019 6:24 am

Anticon wrote:
dho4ever wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Would Howard at his peak be a more effective defensive player than Iguodala is on Golden State? For comparison even a peak Boogie Cousins without injury I don't think is close to Iguodala in effectiveness on Golden State.


Sure but that doesn't change the fact that Dwight Howard was a top player in the league at sometime in his career and is deserving of the hall of fame.


I still find this to be the most insane thinking. Clear first ballot for a team killer with no meaningful skills...compared to a FMVP and critical defensive wing on a team that re-defined basketball. Losing in the finals is not a hall of fame achievement.

I know there's no criteria for the hall so people go by box score and awards, but this is totally crazy.


Your criteria would not appear to have anything to do with the actual HOF criteria.

Being somebody's good roleplayer is totally and completely irrelevant for HOF purposes. Being an All-NBA superstar is completely relevant for HOF purposes. Iggy will be a who? to future generations. Dwight is no Shaq, but he'll still be the best remembered C of his generation.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#83 » by Anticon » Sat May 18, 2019 6:27 am

Winsome Gerbil wrote:
Anticon wrote:
dho4ever wrote:
Sure but that doesn't change the fact that Dwight Howard was a top player in the league at sometime in his career and is deserving of the hall of fame.


I still find this to be the most insane thinking. Clear first ballot for a team killer with no meaningful skills...compared to a FMVP and critical defensive wing on a team that re-defined basketball. Losing in the finals is not a hall of fame achievement.

I know there's no criteria for the hall so people go by box score and awards, but this is totally crazy.


Your criteria would not appear to have anything to do with the actual HOF criteria.

Being somebody's good roleplayer is totally and completely irrelevant for HOF purposes. Being an All-NBA superstar is completely relevant for HOF purposes. Iggy will be a who? to future generations. Dwight is no Shaq, but he'll still be the best remembered C of his generation.


So what are the actual criteria? I'm not sure they actually exist, and "best remembered" is definitely not a compelling metric, lol.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#84 » by WarriorGM » Sat May 18, 2019 6:27 am

Winsome Gerbil wrote:
Anticon wrote:
dho4ever wrote:
Sure but that doesn't change the fact that Dwight Howard was a top player in the league at sometime in his career and is deserving of the hall of fame.


I still find this to be the most insane thinking. Clear first ballot for a team killer with no meaningful skills...compared to a FMVP and critical defensive wing on a team that re-defined basketball. Losing in the finals is not a hall of fame achievement.

I know there's no criteria for the hall so people go by box score and awards, but this is totally crazy.


Your criteria would not appear to have anything to do with the actual HOF criteria.

Being somebody's good roleplayer is totally and completely irrelevant for HOF purposes. Being an All-NBA superstar is completely relevant for HOF purposes. Iggy will be a who? to future generations. Dwight is no Shaq, but he'll still be the best remembered C of his generation.


What is the best lineup in NBA history? Is Iguodala on it? The Warriors have a lineup that has become iconic enough that it has a name. The Death Lineup. The Hamptons 5. There are a lot of little things like that that might give Iguodala a shot.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#85 » by Anticon » Sat May 18, 2019 6:29 am

WarriorGM wrote:
Winsome Gerbil wrote:
Anticon wrote:
I still find this to be the most insane thinking. Clear first ballot for a team killer with no meaningful skills...compared to a FMVP and critical defensive wing on a team that re-defined basketball. Losing in the finals is not a hall of fame achievement.

I know there's no criteria for the hall so people go by box score and awards, but this is totally crazy.


Your criteria would not appear to have anything to do with the actual HOF criteria.

Being somebody's good roleplayer is totally and completely irrelevant for HOF purposes. Being an All-NBA superstar is completely relevant for HOF purposes. Iggy will be a who? to future generations. Dwight is no Shaq, but he'll still be the best remembered C of his generation.


What is the best lineup in NBA history? Is Iguodala on it?


I was honestly kidding about this discussions but people have waltzed into it. It's insane.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#86 » by Rainwater » Sat May 18, 2019 7:32 am

Seriously? There is no way Iggy makes the hall of Fame. It's like saying Ron Harper should make the hall of fame. Btw Shawn Marion won't make the Hall the fame either. If guys like Ben Wallace, Chris Webber, Tim Hardaway, and Billups are having a hard time getting in, how the hell will Iggy get in.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#87 » by Rainwater » Sat May 18, 2019 7:37 am

pagal wrote:If bums like Pierce are going to eventually end up there, I don't see any reason why Iggy shouldn't make it. The standards are quite low for Basketball HoF compared to other major sports.


I am not the biggest fan of Paul Pierce but never compare him to Iggy.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#88 » by Jesus Juice » Sat May 18, 2019 7:41 am

that finals MVP validates the kind of impact Iggy has had on the court. When we look back on this GS run we people remember Klay, Steph, KD, Green, real basketball fans will remember Iggy but the Hall shouldn’t.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#89 » by Rainwater » Sat May 18, 2019 7:45 am

Winsome Gerbil wrote:The fact the vote is so close just shows how completely out of touch people are with the HOF standards.

The Answer is no, and it's not a close or gray area no.


Yeah, I don't understand why this is so close. Iggy is not a hall of Farmer. I know the NBA is really liberal with it's selections but they are not that liberal. BasketballReferences.com is really good with percentages of making the HOF and he is at 6% and that seems about right, lol.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#90 » by Rainwater » Sat May 18, 2019 7:55 am

Myth wrote:I think he should get in. There is a small push for Toni Kukoc to be nominated for HOF, and I think they have had similar careers, but Iggy has a a few things putting him over Toni, including an all-star game, a couple all-defensive team nods, and most importantly a FMVP.


Seriously? Toni is not getting in either.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#91 » by mcmokken » Sat May 18, 2019 8:23 am

Obviously not. Many of the arguments here are cringey and embarrassing.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#92 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat May 18, 2019 8:55 am

Yes. He's underrated, super smart, still a great athlete and always has been. Can pass, rebound, defend and even score when need be.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#93 » by jonjames » Sat May 18, 2019 11:29 am

Igoudala? Hell no.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#94 » by iggymcfrack » Sat May 18, 2019 12:28 pm

If Jamaal Wilkes and KC Jones can get in largely on the back of winning rings, I don't see why Iggy can't. 4-time NBA champion (assuming the premise of this thread), Finals MVP, part of the best 5-man lineup in NBA history, 2-time all-defense, all-star, #3 in the league in RPM in 2014, 27th all-time in steals, 40th all-time in VORP. He's got a pretty well-rounded resume. I know that for the voting, it's mainly the first 2 things that matter, but still. As voters become more analytically aware, it can only help him IMO.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#95 » by Arteezy » Sat May 18, 2019 12:58 pm

Why shouldnt he? I mean, Chris Bosh is gonna be at the HoF and was a way worse player and less important in his team rings.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#96 » by Sprewell4Three » Sat May 18, 2019 1:01 pm

Iggy should be in the hall of very good. Never did we consider Iggy a top player in the league.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#97 » by Galloisdaman » Sat May 18, 2019 1:08 pm

WarriorGM wrote:
Winsome Gerbil wrote:
Anticon wrote:
I still find this to be the most insane thinking. Clear first ballot for a team killer with no meaningful skills...compared to a FMVP and critical defensive wing on a team that re-defined basketball. Losing in the finals is not a hall of fame achievement.

I know there's no criteria for the hall so people go by box score and awards, but this is totally crazy.


Your criteria would not appear to have anything to do with the actual HOF criteria.

Being somebody's good roleplayer is totally and completely irrelevant for HOF purposes. Being an All-NBA superstar is completely relevant for HOF purposes. Iggy will be a who? to future generations. Dwight is no Shaq, but he'll still be the best remembered C of his generation.


What is the best lineup in NBA history? Is Iguodala on it? The Warriors have a lineup that has become iconic enough that it has a name. The Death Lineup. The Hamptons 5. There are a lot of little things like that that might give Iguodala a shot.


Iggy has had his share of good moments as a Warrior but he has averaged around 7 ppg as a Warrior. He is not what makes the Warriors the Warriors. I rooted hard for the Clippers. I wanted the ball in Iggys hands. Curry, Durant, Klay, Green, and Looney all scared me when they had the ball. Iggy did not. Not even close to a hall of famer but still has had a good career that anyone should be proud of imo.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#98 » by Galloisdaman » Sat May 18, 2019 1:13 pm

Arteezy wrote:Why shouldnt he? I mean, Chris Bosh is gonna be at the HoF and was a way worse player and less important in his team rings.


Iggy was a better player than Chris Bosh now? As well as better than Paul Pierce?

Is there a version of Iggy that I have not seen?
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#99 » by wallsfamily » Sat May 18, 2019 1:16 pm

Based on the precendent of Dennis Johnson Silk and especially the 60's Celtics he should be no doubt.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#100 » by Galloisdaman » Sat May 18, 2019 1:18 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:If Jamaal Wilkes and KC Jones can get in largely on the back of winning rings, I don't see why Iggy can't. 4-time NBA champion (assuming the premise of this thread), Finals MVP, part of the best 5-man lineup in NBA history, 2-time all-defense, all-star, #3 in the league in RPM in 2014, 27th all-time in steals, 40th all-time in VORP. He's got a pretty well-rounded resume. I know that for the voting, it's mainly the first 2 things that matter, but still. As voters become more analytically aware, it can only help him IMO.


Is Iggy a better player than Jamal Wilkes?

KC Jones I do not get. If a guy takes around 30 years to get inducted then there is probably a reason.
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