2019 NBA Finals Thread #4: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TIED AT 1

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Who will win the series?

Golden State in 5
28
13%
Golden State in 6
71
32%
Golden State in 7
8
4%
Toronto in 5
37
17%
Toronto in 6
32
15%
Toronto in 7
44
20%
 
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Post#81 » by HBK_Kliq_33 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:37 am

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34 points on 8/20 shooting..he had 16fts

Dont make it sound like he was being efficient. he also added 5 TO's.


Getting to the freethrow line 16 times is what superstars do and that's part of being efficient.



funny, u weren't saying that last game when Steph dropped 14 at the FT line


I never knocked Curry last game? Curry played better game 1 but Kawhi played better game 2.
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Post#82 » by will » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:37 am

Those cheap fouls called on the Raps in the first half...compared to what wasn't called on the Warriors was crazy.
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Post#83 » by Son Goku 25 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:38 am

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Son Goku 25 wrote:LOL Most stacked team ever wins with the help of the refs.

I think raps messed up quite a bit, letting them go on that 18-0 and missing wide open looks but other then that, if Lowry can stop being an idiot on some of those fouls and refs not trying to take over the game, raps should be fine.

It'll be tough in Oakland though, usually, guys just shoot better at home so lets see.


'most stacked team ever' beat you trotting out Cook jerebko and mckinnie


Hey man, I'll take the L gladly unlike some posters on here from other teams.

Raps lost, they had a great opportunity to win. I will say though, the refs were on a mission though multiple raps in foul trouble which changed the complexion of the game. They still had a shot after all of that but weren't able to pull one. No one stepped us aside from an injured Kawhi and a bit of FVV.
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Post#84 » by HBK_Kliq_33 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:38 am

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34 points on 8/20 shooting..he had 16fts

Dont make it sound like he was being efficient. he also added 5 TO's.


Getting to the freethrow line 16 times is what superstars do and that's part of being efficient.


Sure but each trip to the line is a scoring attempt/uses up a possession.

He had 18 points on 20 shots.

He had 34 points on 28 scoring attempts/possessions.


Freethrows don't count as a shot attempt, I'm not sure where you're getting that from.
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Post#85 » by LKN » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:38 am

It's hard for me to take much away from that game - the reffing was so atrocious in the first half. It had a huge impact on who could be on the floor and how aggressive they could be. The Raptors did have an offensive disappearing act like they did against Philly several times which really hurt them; they certainly did themselves no favors.

I certainly will avoid watching any more games with Brothers/Foster officiating.... that game was painful to watch. If the NBA wonders why their ratings struggle sometimes games like tonight are a prime example. Terrible flow of the game and wildly inconsistent calls make for a very poor experience for fans.
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Post#86 » by Dnt hate » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:39 am

Jaqua92 wrote:Curry is the best player in this series

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Post#87 » by sixerswillrule » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:39 am

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HBK_Kliq_33 wrote:
Getting to the freethrow line 16 times is what superstars do and that's part of being efficient.


Sure but each trip to the line is a scoring attempt/uses up a possession.

He had 18 points on 20 shots.

He had 34 points on 28 scoring attempts/possessions.


Freethrows don't count as a shot attempt, I'm not sure where you're getting that from.


I never said they did.
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Post#88 » by LKN » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:39 am

HBK_Kliq_33 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:
HBK_Kliq_33 wrote:
Getting to the freethrow line 16 times is what superstars do and that's part of being efficient.


Sure but each trip to the line is a scoring attempt/uses up a possession.

He had 18 points on 20 shots.

He had 34 points on 28 scoring attempts/possessions.


Freethrows don't count as a shot attempt, I'm not sure where you're getting that from.


FTs aren'ta shot attempt but they do use a possession.
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Post#89 » by Useyourhead » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:40 am

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HBK_Kliq_33 wrote:Kawhi was the best player on the floor tonight but had no help from anybody on his team. Draymond was by far the warriors best player tonight. The big story is Klay Thompson's injury and how hurt he is as he was playing great today. I wouldn't count out raptors yet as they been down in every series this year and still came back and won, it's only 1-1 and Klay couldn't even walk post game so I doubt he plays game 3.


K. Leonard had a mediocre game at best. I was surprised he only had 5 turnovers because it seemed like 10. He butchered getting the ball out of traps and missed so many open guys sometimes it was hard to watch. The warriors really must have scouted him well because he is clueless at times when it comes to passing out of a double team or hard trap. For a player of his caliber saying he played average is pretty generous. If he doesnt figure out these traps the Raptors are doomed.


Agreed, he did not play that well, had a lot of bad posessions
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Post#90 » by Clyde Frazier » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:40 am

Kerr smarter than me leaving cousins in in the 4th even though he looked gassed. His passing was phenomenal.
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Post#91 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:41 am

Vlade Divac wrote:Raptors beat themselves! If we shot our playoff average on threes we win this game. Refs help Dubs in first half when they should have been -20 at the half. We missed so many open threes while keeping them not to score. I do believe we are taking one in Auckland.


I hate this stuff. The warriors are a better playoff defense than the bucks. This is largely because the warriors give up 3's to the right players in the right places. They also have a feel for hot shooting or poor shooting. This is a constant with most really good defenses. More importantly teams generally don't shoot "their average" but have good and bad nights to some degree, often the result of well defense.

For the most part the warriors guarded the 3 well and they gassed the raptors players as the raptors were playing their hearts out trying to stop Curry. FVF absolutely lost some of his legs due to all the work he had on curry. The warriors made life hell for Leonard and he was tired as a result. Sure they could have had a better game shooting, but so could Curry. Curry while he played wonderfully overall still missed a lot of very makable shots for him. Some of that was also his work on defense...curry was seriously locked in and a part of stopping some of those 3s.
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Post#92 » by HBK_Kliq_33 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:41 am

sixerswillrule wrote:
HBK_Kliq_33 wrote:
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Sure but each trip to the line is a scoring attempt/uses up a possession.

He had 18 points on 20 shots.

He had 34 points on 28 scoring attempts/possessions.


Freethrows don't count as a shot attempt, I'm not sure where you're getting that from.


I never said they did.


Counting those attempts are irrelevant when he's getting fouled while doing them.
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Post#93 » by cpower » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:41 am

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Curry started 0-5 and didn't even end with good shooting percentages, 23 points on 17 shots average game for his standards.


Sure, but his screens, his off ball movement...you know all the reasons we never stop talking about how great curry is. He was KILLING it with all that. All that stuff the leads fans to drool over how great curry is and leads to people who don't understand basketball to quote box score metrics in the finals.

This was as classic a "GOAT" off ball level game as it comes from Curry.


I didn't see a great game from Curry tonight, it was Draymond\Klay who were keeping the Warriors going while Curry was struggling.

he had a good game, only 1 TO is huge and also getting so many hockey assists, including Bogut lobs and Livingston/Green layups. Still the most impactful player on the court
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Post#94 » by TheGOATWill » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:41 am

Raps looked tired from the tip. They may have emptied most of the clip in game 1.
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Post#95 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:42 am

HBK_Kliq_33 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
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Kawhi was much better offensively as he had 34 points despite getting double teamed half the game, Draymond just gets single coverage and sometimes not even being guarded at all.


Kawhi's 34/14 were quite non-impactful. Looked better on the boxscore.


Curry only had 1 turnover, I doubt he was double teamed as much as you think.


So just because Curry handled the double teams correctly (got lucky a few times as well), means he wasn't doubled too often.

It really seems like you didn't watch the game and just looking at the box score. Or your doing some crazy mental gymnastics here.
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Post#96 » by RakimAbdulJabar » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:42 am

Klay is a moron if that injury ends up being serious, I rarely agree with Van Gundy but I saw the same thing, he was trying to create the contact by kicking his legs out and that lead to the weird landing. It was self inflicted and he better hope it doesn’t cost them the series
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Post#97 » by DonaldSanders » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:42 am

RaptorPride wrote:**** refs, man


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Post#98 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:42 am

LKN wrote:It's hard for me to take much away from that game - the reffing was so atrocious in the first half. It had a huge impact on who could be on the floor and how aggressive they could be. The Raptors did have an offensive disappearing act like they did against Philly several times which really hurt them; they certainly did themselves no favors.

I certainly will avoid watching any more games with Brothers/Foster officiating.... that game was painful to watch. If the NBA wonders why their ratings struggle sometimes games like tonight are a prime example. Terrible flow of the game and wildly inconsistent calls make for a very poor experience for fans.


Someone has to do something about Foster...he simply cannot officiate.
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Post#99 » by Jaqua92 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:42 am

clyde21 wrote:
HBK_Kliq_33 wrote:Kawhi was the best player on the floor tonight but had no help from anybody on his team. Draymond was by far the warriors best player tonight. The big story is Klay Thompson's injury and how hurt he is as he was playing great today. I wouldn't count out raptors yet as they been down in every series this year and still came back and won, it's only 1-1 and Klay couldn't even walk post game so I doubt he plays game 3.


The best player on the floor is the one that's getting trapped at half-court literally every possession.
This. Curry's impact is HUGE.

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Post#100 » by whatisacenter » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:42 am

a lot of posters on here owe Boogie an apology. The hot takes on this guy were hysterical.
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