NBA To Finally Have Accurate Heights

[dhsilv2]

I don't partake, so I don't get why height has anything to do with sports betting.

And I had no idea this was such a thing. At the combine, some players refuse measurements or back out of it because it might affect their stock. But with players already in the NBA, what is the big deal and inch either way? And since players play with shoes, why is without the desired detail? As others have said, I think age is far more instructive in terms of peak years, contracts, etc.

It doesn't. Its the NBA trying to APPEAR open and transparent to get a piece of gambling revenue. Its a song and dance.

Ok, but I still don't get what or how this affects gambling? Like is it a prerequisite for it being allowed? It's not like suddenly teams are going to get another guy out against a known opponent because of the new measurements. Boxing, I understand. But this info doesn't affect the basketball game, so I don't see the connection to gambling...

Would kinda be like if you were told at blackjack they use 7 decks and it turns out it was 7 decks plus 1 random card but they never disclosed it. You could likely get a class action lawsuit over it just because technically you were lied too even though, it really didn't make a difference.

But see my last point to metrics that ARE used by gamblers and could possibly be refined better with this.

[ThatBoyNick]

Screw the people who are hating, this is exciting for me.

[KingDavid]

Im curious if teams are actually going to take this seriously. Is the NBA going to send someone to each team to watch this be done? If not I can easily just see teams writing down the previously listed heights.

Seeing as how the measurements have to be certified, I'd imagine they'd have to take a picture next to whatever is measuring them.

[marcush]

I’m irrationally interested in these figures being released and staggered that the NBA would release the barefoot height. Far too logical for the NBA.

[azcatz11]

It doesn't. Its the NBA trying to APPEAR open and transparent to get a piece of gambling revenue. Its a song and dance.

Ok, but I still don't get what or how this affects gambling? Like is it a prerequisite for it being allowed? It's not like suddenly teams are going to get another guy out against a known opponent because of the new measurements. Boxing, I understand. But this info doesn't affect the basketball game, so I don't see the connection to gambling...

Would kinda be like if you were told at blackjack they use 7 decks and it turns out it was 7 decks plus 1 random card but they never disclosed it. You could likely get a class action lawsuit over it just because technically you were lied too even though, it really didn't make a difference.

But see my last point to metrics that ARE used by gamblers and could possibly be refined better with this.

Very interesting - never thought about this angle but makes sense

[Lalouie]

i get it,,,but they play with shoes ON

i can only assume that the fudging of inches has nothing to do with shoes or no shoes, but maybe more like height of hair.

will they measure in the morning when a player wakes up,,,or at night,,,or after morning stretches or therapy massage?

I always hated this explanation. Your height is your height. No other place in life would you list your height in shoes. Should we start measuring football players in their cleats or hockey players in their skates?

because height doesn't matter in hockey or football, man.

ultimately it doesn't matter and it's all pr anyways. just something nichey to add to the nba. i think wingspan, shoulder height, and standing reach are more important than full height. kevon looney has square shoulders and no neck. he has longer wings and a taller reach than most of the players his height. stephen zimmerman was a 7'er with a 10" friggin' neck and a standing reach of a 6'7 player.

full height shoes or no shoes is pointless

[chuck_wagon44]

Lakers starting center:

6'9'' Dwight Howard

[youngcrev]

i get it,,,but they play with shoes ON

i can only assume that the fudging of inches has nothing to do with shoes or no shoes, but maybe more like height of hair.

will they measure in the morning when a player wakes up,,,or at night,,,or after morning stretches or therapy massage?

I always hated this explanation. Your height is your height. No other place in life would you list your height in shoes. Should we start measuring football players in their cleats or hockey players in their skates?

because height doesn't matter in hockey or football, man.

ultimately it doesn't matter and it's all pr anyways. just something nichey to add to the nba. i think wingspan, shoulder height, and standing reach are more important than full height. kevon looney has square shoulders and no neck. he has longer wings and a taller reach than most of the players his height. stephen zimmerman was a 7'er with a 10" friggin' neck and a standing reach of a 6'7 player.

full height shoes or no shoes is pointless

Don't know about hockey, but height absolutely matters in football at certain positions. And how is that a good argument for going with an arbitrary measurement for the sport that it IS relevant?

[Lalouie]

I always hated this explanation. Your height is your height. No other place in life would you list your height in shoes. Should we start measuring football players in their cleats or hockey players in their skates?

because height doesn't matter in hockey or football, man.

ultimately it doesn't matter and it's all pr anyways. just something nichey to add to the nba. i think wingspan, shoulder height, and standing reach are more important than full height. kevon looney has square shoulders and no neck. he has longer wings and a taller reach than most of the players his height. stephen zimmerman was a 7'er with a 10" friggin' neck and a standing reach of a 6'7 player.

full height shoes or no shoes is pointless

Don't know about hockey, but height absolutely matters in football at certain positions. And how is that a good argument for going with an arbitrary measurement for the sport that it IS relevant?

it matters in basketball. it's advantageous in football. basketball is more of a vertical sport. football is not

[Swish1906]

I'm honestly just excited to see how short JJ Barea really is

Read on Twitter

?s=19

[youngcrev]

because height doesn't matter in hockey or football, man.

ultimately it doesn't matter and it's all pr anyways. just something nichey to add to the nba. i think wingspan, shoulder height, and standing reach are more important than full height. kevon looney has square shoulders and no neck. he has longer wings and a taller reach than most of the players his height. stephen zimmerman was a 7'er with a 10" friggin' neck and a standing reach of a 6'7 player.

full height shoes or no shoes is pointless

Don't know about hockey, but height absolutely matters in football at certain positions. And how is that a good argument for going with an arbitrary measurement for the sport that it IS relevant?

it matters in basketball. it's advantageous in football. basketball is more of a vertical sport. football is not

I think you missed the point of that post. Yeah, height absolutely matters more in basketball... so how is that a good argument against not listing their actual height? If anything it's more of a reason to do so. It's something that never made sense in the first place. I'm not sure why anyone would be against them making this switch.

[Lalouie]

Don't know about hockey, but height absolutely matters in football at certain positions. And how is that a good argument for going with an arbitrary measurement for the sport that it IS relevant?

it matters in basketball. it's advantageous in football. basketball is more of a vertical sport. football is not

I think you missed the point of that post. Yeah, height absolutely matters more in basketball... so how is that a good argument against not listing their actual height? If anything it's more of a reason to do so. It's something that never made sense in the first place. I'm not sure why anyone would be against them making this switch.

since the nba seems to be adamant about this demand on teams to do it right, then they can at least give these measurements a true value. height has no value other than as a profile listing. with all the tools available someone could easily quantify height + standing reach + wings into a sensible and applicable measure instead of saying someone is 7' tall when he has a 10" neck and the reach of a 6'7" player.

it feels like this is just a temporary directive until 2yrs from now when the nba says "hey we have a better way to do this".

i mean, think about. this is the year 2019 AND THE NBA IS NOW finally saying ok let's clean this up???? like what about the previous 50yrs.

[Gooner]

A lot of people gonna lose their minds when Lebron measures 6'5"

LeBron is 6'8.25".

[Gooner]

Inb4 Zion at least 6'8

I'll take the under

Yeah, he is more like 6'6".

[DaddyCool19]

i get it,,,but they play with shoes ON

i can only assume that the fudging of inches has nothing to do with shoes or no shoes, but maybe more like height of hair.

will they measure in the morning when a player wakes up,,,or at night,,,or after morning stretches or therapy massage?

I always hated this explanation. Your height is your height. No other place in life would you list your height in shoes. Should we start measuring football players in their cleats or hockey players in their skates?

because height doesn't matter in hockey or football, man.

ultimately it doesn't matter and it's all pr anyways. just something nichey to add to the nba. i think wingspan, shoulder height, and standing reach are more important than full height. kevon looney has square shoulders and no neck. he has longer wings and a taller reach than most of the players his height. stephen zimmerman was a 7'er with a 10" friggin' neck and a standing reach of a 6'7 player.

full height shoes or no shoes is pointless

Have you mixed up Zimmerman with someone else?

6'10.25 without shoes, 7'2.5 wingspan and he has a 9'0.5 reach. That doesn't seem like the reach of a 6'7 player.

[andyhop]

Weird that they didn't ask for real weight as it fluctuates more during a player's career than height.

They're saying that's why they didn't:

Read on Twitter

I do think more players should have weight clauses in their contract like diaw did, though.

Just make them provide players weights once a month or once a fortnight , problem solved

[LastNameEver]

Too many 6'1 guards being auto listed as 6'3 because they fit a mold.

[bearadonisdna]

i get it,,,but they play with shoes ON

i can only assume that the fudging of inches has nothing to do with shoes or no shoes, but maybe more like height of hair.

will they measure in the morning when a player wakes up,,,or at night,,,or after morning stretches or therapy massage?

I always hated this explanation. Your height is your height. No other place in life would you list your height in shoes. Should we start measuring football players in their cleats or hockey players in their skates?

You have a point but the combine measures them both ways. If you have a shoe height, using the barefoot height is just defeatist.

[youngcrev]

i get it,,,but they play with shoes ON

i can only assume that the fudging of inches has nothing to do with shoes or no shoes, but maybe more like height of hair.

will they measure in the morning when a player wakes up,,,or at night,,,or after morning stretches or therapy massage?

I always hated this explanation. Your height is your height. No other place in life would you list your height in shoes. Should we start measuring football players in their cleats or hockey players in their skates?

You have a point but the combine measures them both ways. If you have a shoe height, using the barefoot height is just defeatist.

With this change, I think they'll probably just scrap the shoe height at the combine.

[JN61]

Will they do accurate measurements or continue to use inaccurate Yank way to measure height of round to closest next inch? With metric system this all would be so much easier.


Players I have interested in are Durant and Howard. How much will they gain/lose.