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oceanlife wrote:

Pennebaker wrote:

scrabbarista wrote:
On the other hand, if they didn't support the government's actions, they wouldn't be able to tell us, would they? When the voice of the Chinese people is controlled and suppressed by the Chinese government, how are we supposed to recognize their true voice?

There are 80,000 American citizens that live and work in China. They have Chinese friends and Chinese co-workers. They discuss things like censorship and how regular Chinese people feel about it (most are indifferent). No one is getting arrested for this. Most educated and worldly Chinese people actually like their government and they know full well why Americans think that they shouldn't.

Of course the Chinese love their government. There's a few reasons why.

#1 The Chinese government is making their citizens rich. The US government is letting their citizens be eaten alive by financial parasites. Big difference in priorities. Now, it's not all roses in China, but if you look at the trajectories and the individual worker the Chinese man is getting richer while the American is getting poorer.

#2 The Chinese teach their kids to love their country, Americans don't. History Classes in American schools tend to highlight everything we did wrong in the past, from slavery, to killing Indians, to oppressing other countries, if you've been to American schools you've learned all this. But in China, how shall I put this, imagine a Donald Trump Rally with more discipline, that's a Chinese history class. Get educated in China and you'll think China is fantastic.

#3 America has media that is controlled by international corporations while China is state controlled. Basically in America you have a small group of companies, some people put it at 6, that run 95% of all media in America. Every one of those companies has a large foreign ownership component. Many of them run programming that is negative to America. China does not allow such negative media. Chinese media trains the citizens to love their people and government, American media trains you to be critical of your people and government.

I'd still take America 10/10 times over China, but I understand why they are so unified.

kuclas wrote:It’s always about the money. NBA stands to lose too much from China. Don’t want to get too political on these boards. But the USA doesn’t want to mess with China in general. And why they don’t go bomb North Korea cause that would upset the Chinese.

koogiking wrote:Here comes the spin lmao these team owners are very savvy. They're always trying to find ways to take money from the players

koogiking wrote:Here comes the spin lmao these team owners are very savvy. They're always trying to find ways to take money from the players

milkii wrote:NBA players are already overpaid.

spacemonkey wrote:The cap dropping by 15% immediately made me think of how that John Wall contract is going to look...

cpower wrote:who would have thought the NBA salary is the first indicator of global recession?

LofJ wrote:

cpower wrote:who would have thought the NBA salary is the first indicator of global recession?

It definitely isn't the first indication, that said the US-China trade war in general is what is going to tip the world into an economic recession. Basketball is just one of many industries that are getting financially hurt by the growing cold war between the US and China.

Curmudgeon wrote:Is China willing to lose the NBA's business over Morey's tweet? I don't see anyone raising that issue. If the sale of NBA jerseys goes way down, the folks who own the Chinese factory that makes them won't be happy. If there is no NBA on Chinese television, the Chinese television stations selling ad space to advertisers in the Chinese market won't be happy either.

ropjhk wrote:This thread has been derailed. I was hoping for some discussion on how the hit to the salary cap would affect each team and which teams are poised to benefit and which teams would be most screwed over. Instead the political discussion just goes on.

I guess people don't care much about basketball anymore.

ropjhk wrote:This thread has been derailed. I was hoping for some discussion on how the hit to the salary cap would affect each team and which teams are poised to benefit and which teams would be most screwed over. Instead the political discussion just goes on.

I guess people don't care much about basketball anymore.

LofJ wrote:

ropjhk wrote:This thread has been derailed. I was hoping for some discussion on how the hit to the salary cap would affect each team and which teams are poised to benefit and which teams would be most screwed over. Instead the political discussion just goes on.

I guess people don't care much about basketball anymore.

I think the teams that will be most negatively affected are the ones that will be over the lowered cap and still have players to re-sign. So teams like the Pacers (Sabonis), Celtics (Brown), Magic (Isaac, Augustin), and Nuggets (Beasley, Millsap, Plumlee) might need to find a way to cut future salary obligations or they could be forced to let some of these guys walk.

koogiking wrote:Here comes the spin lmao these team owners are very savvy. They're always trying to find ways to take money from the players

Curmudgeon wrote:Is China willing to lose the NBA's business over Morey's tweet? I don't see anyone raising that issue. If the sale of NBA jerseys goes way down, the folks who own the Chinese factory that makes them won't be happy. If there is no NBA on Chinese television, the Chinese television stations selling ad space to advertisers in the Chinese market won't be happy either.

spikeslovechild wrote:

koogiking wrote:Here comes the spin lmao these team owners are very savvy. They're always trying to find ways to take money from the players

Stop watching Alex Jones the owners didn't force Morey to send out the tweet with the intention of lowering league revenues thereby lowering the cap thereby lowering salaries.

That is next level crazy