Unfair race to the 8th/9th seed

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Re: Unfair race to the 8th/9th seed 

Post#81 » by _dreamer_ » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:45 pm

SMTBSI wrote:There's just no way you're going to convince me that the team that won a lower percentage of their games is being treated unfairly.

Additionally, everyone knew the bubble was not a perfect solution. There was no perfect solution. They found a reasonable solution in order to give us our season back, and everyone agreed it was reasonable enough. If we insisted on a perfect solution, the outcome would have been no season.

The league did the best they could under the circumstances, and it's worked out pretty well. Just be grateful we have basketball.


not everyone agreed. The Blazers were against this, proposal.
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Re: Unfair race to the 8th/9th seed 

Post#82 » by Catchall » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:17 pm

Jazz are resting Gobert and Conley in their final game tomorrow against the Spurs. However, the Spurs need two of the teams they're competing with to lose in order to take the #8 or #9 seed.
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Re: Unfair race to the 8th/9th seed 

Post#83 » by Myth » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:17 pm

Rapcity_11 wrote:
Myth wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
If anything, the Pelicans were the ones to get screwed. Since they played 2 less games than Portland and would have lost the tie-breaker due to a ludicrously small difference in win%. Same thing with the Spurs vs. the Grizz/Suns.

It's more than a slight edge.

And it guarantees lower lottery odds, not a lower draft pick.

You are technically right that if we are one of the lottery winners, we would have a better draft pick. But aside from that, it absolutely guarantees we have a worse pick than multiple teams. If we went 0-8, our draft pick would have been either 13th (if Memphis missed the playoffs) or 14th (if Memphis made playoffs), while the other west bubble teams would have had picks 10-12 (or 10-13) despite having worse records.

And those 2 less games would have rewarded Pelicans with a better draft pick even if they got up to 9th. But yes, technically Pelicans will get screwed out of a draft pick position based on them going down in the standings, which also goes to my original point (which Portland was the example I used, not the sole purpose of my original post) about there being advantages and disadvantages in each direction.

I guess slight edge is subjective. I usually consider tie breakers a slight edge over the course of a season, and this is pretty close to a tie breaker (which wasn't just handed to Portland, they did have to actually win an extra game rather than lose the extra game).


You're oddly obsessed with the draft lottery for a fan of a team that was well positioned to make the playoffs and now looks like a lock.

Congrats on missing the point once again. This was all about the set up of the bubble, not how things all played out.
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Re: Unfair race to the 8th/9th seed 

Post#84 » by Myth » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:27 pm

Rapcity_11 wrote:
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Agreed. Now answer the question...

So if you agree, then why was my claim ridiculous? That was the whole goddamn point that you repeatedly disagreed with.


Because you're framing it as the Blazers getting screwed. When in reality they had both advantages and disadvantages....

I've said this so many times. Work on your reading comprehension. The whole point from the beginning was that there were advantages and disadvantages. The OP indicated that there were advantages for Portland. My point was that it balanced out because there were disadvantages too. When I used the term "double edged sword," what do you think I meant? Then there is this exact quote from 2 pages ago:

my original point (which Portland was the example I used, not the sole purpose of my original post) about there being advantages and disadvantages in each direction.


But apparently you didn't read that either since you are trying to tell me exactly what I have said already. I'm starting to question if you are deliberately ignoring the point because on multiple occasions you have made the exact same point as mine, and then claimed my point is ridiculous.

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