My brand new top 50 ranking after 2021 Finals results. What do you think?

[MrPerfect1]

The list focuses too much on accomplishments rather than peak seasons, unless this is an accomplishments list rather than Best players list.

For example, this season + playoffs by Giannis was superior to any single Kobe year.
Peak Giannis > Peak Kobe but Kobe is listed far higher here since it is longevity focused.

[Magic Is Magic]

I should also share another part of my formula that is a little more tricky. I also took the top ten players for the following five categories: Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, Blocks for RS and awarded the scores as

1st = 3.50
2nd = 3.15
3rd = 2.80
4th = 2.45
5th = 2.10
6th = 1.75
7th = 1.40
8th = 1.05
9th = 0.70
10th = 0.35

The playoff leaders earned an additional 50% boost, so 1st = 5.25 points, 2nd = 4.725 points, etc. This is the complex behind the scenes part that balances out longevity to where I give value to longevity but not over powering the value, as we know a Finals MVP is still worth 9 points alone.

**V2 UPDATED LIST**
This one has placed slightly more emphasis on Ring vs FMVP and a bigger added value on longevity. I really like how this is turning out.

1. LeBron James 99.7
2. Michael Jordan 98.0
3. Kareem A-Jabbar 86.8
4. Bill Russell 69.9
5. Tim Duncan 66.0
6. Wilt Chamberlain 63.3
7. Magic Johnson 57.7
8. Shaquille O'Neal 53.5
9. Kobe Bryant 50.5
10. Larry Bird 46.5
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11. Hakeem Olajuwon 39.3
12. Karl Malone 37.4
13. Kevin Durant 37.3
14. Jerry West 36.2
15. David Robinson 34.3
16. Dirk Nowitzki 33.2
17. Oscar Robertson 33.0
18. Bob Cousy 32.7
19. Jason Kidd 32.3
20. Moses Malone 32.1
21. George Mikan 31.4
22. Julius Erving 30.7
23. Bob Pettit 30.7
24. Kevin Garnett 30.7
25. Chris Paul 30.7
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26. John Havlicek 27.6
27. James Harden 27.2
28. Stephen Curry 26.3
29. Kawhi Leonard 25.6
30. Charles Barkley 24.3
31. Giannis Antetokuonmpo 23.6
32. John Stockton 23.2
33. Dwyane Wade 23.1
34. Scottie Pippen 23.0
35. Dolph Schayes 20.7
36. Elgin Baylor 20.6
37. Steve Nash 20.1
38. Willis Reed 19.7
39. Russell Westbrook 18.3
40. Elvin Hayes 16.2
41. Rick Barry 15.2
42. Gary Payton 15.2
43. Walt Frazier 15.2
44. Allen Iverson 15.0
45. George Gervin 14.9
46. Anthony Davis 14.4
47. Bill Walton 14.1
48. Patrick Ewing 13.7
49 Isiah Thomas 13.3
50. Kevin McHale 12.1



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Nothing can be perfect but it's a pretty good starting point.

[Myth]

After listening to feedback and adding a few more elements into the formula there are some slightly different results in the middle of the list. The top ten is mostly still the same (Russell and Duncan swapped places) but the top twelve is mostly set now and these players are usually in everyone's top twelve (maybe not Durant but he has the resume to go up against anyone else vying for top twelve status). The changes I made added slightly more value to winning an MVP, FMVP, Scoring top 3, Winning a Scoring Title, and MVP Win shares. These extra categories and score bumps added a nice smoothing effect that makes the results even harder to argue against. Here is the Magic formula it produces with the updates

1. LeBron James 96.4
2. Michael Jordan 95.4
3. Kareem A-Jabbar 80.9
4. Bill Russell 65.1
5. Tim Duncan 63.0
6. Wilt Chamberlain 61.0
7. Magic Johnson 55.2
8. Shaquille O'Neal 51.4
9. Kobe Bryant 48.3
10. Larry Bird 45.3
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11. Hakeem Olajuwon 38.2
12. Kevin Durant 36.9
13. Jerry West 36.0
14. Karl Malone 36.0
15. Dirk Nowitzki 33.0
16. David Robinson 31.9
17. Oscar Robertson 31.5
18. Moses Malone 31.5
19. Bob Cousy 30.5
20. George Mikan 30.5
21. Julius Erving 30.4
22. Chris Paul 29.9
23. Bob Pettit 29.9
24. Kevin Garnett 28.8
25. Kawhi Leonard 27.0
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26. James Harden 25.6
27. John Havlicek 24.8
28. Stephen Curry 24.7
29. Charles Barkley 24.1
30. Jason Kidd 23.7
31. Giannis Antetokuonmpo 23.2
32. Dwyane Wade 22.3
33. John Stockton 21.6
34. Dolph Schayes 20.7
35. Elgin Baylor 20.6
36. Scottie Pippen 19.9
37. Willis Reed 19.5
38. Steve Nash 19.4
39. Russell Westbrook 18.1
40. Elvin Hayes 15.5
41. Walt Frazier 15.2
42. Rick Barry 14.9
43. George Gervin 14.8
44. Anthony Davis 14.4
45. Allen Iverson 14.0
46. Gary Payton 13.5
47. Bill Walton 13.3
48. Isiah Thomas 12.8
49. Patrick Ewing 11.2
50. Paul Pierce 11.0
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Players Kevin McHale, Robert Parrish, Artis Gilmore, Chauncy Billups, Clyde Drexler, Reggie Miller were on the cusp of top 50 but did not make the point cut off. Paul Pierce's FMVP is what put him over most of these other players. Nothing is perfect and the formula is a work in progress as all things should be, after all times and things change but this is a very solid list and formula that I am proud to stand by. Also as some have pointed out if you compare this list to the Real GM voter panel list it is scarily similar and not terribly far off in many cases.

You should probably add more value to DPOY award as well to even things out a lil bit

My issue with adding DPOY as a category is that it was only started in 1984 and many of these players were in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s. which is a big chunk of the NBA history. If I were to add it the only thing it would probably change is slide Dwight Howard into the top 50 cusp and move Kawhi even higher (which I'm not sure higher than 25 makes sense for him anyway). I did have a rhyme or reason for small things like that but mainly the award was stared in 1984 which is unfair to the throwback legends of our game.

How do you balance the lack of existence of FMVP prior to 1969?

[Magic Is Magic]

You should probably add more value to DPOY award as well to even things out a lil bit

My issue with adding DPOY as a category is that it was only started in 1984 and many of these players were in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s. which is a big chunk of the NBA history. If I were to add it the only thing it would probably change is slide Dwight Howard into the top 50 cusp and move Kawhi even higher (which I'm not sure higher than 25 makes sense for him anyway). I did have a rhyme or reason for small things like that but mainly the award was stared in 1984 which is unfair to the throwback legends of our game.

How do you balance the lack of existence of FMVP prior to 1969?

I assigned it based on who was the Finals leading scorer of each championship team except in cases where it was very close then I considered other stats. I'd say for probably 95% of Finals MVPs the winner is the highest scorer on the winning team so I was confident with using that as a metric for a couple of years to balance things out. For ex with Russell he was the team's leading scorer in 62 and 66, and as for 63 the team's top scorers were all very close but Russell had over double the rebounds of anyone else on Boston so I gave him that one as well. A quick fix that applies to 95% of Finals MVPS so it works in this instance.

[GreenBloodedC]

You do you OP. You clearly put an effort into this. While I do not agree with your rankings, I at least appreciate the effort.

[Strepbacter]

For example, this season + playoffs by Giannis was superior to any single Kobe year.
Peak Giannis > Peak Kobe but Kobe is listed far higher here since it is longevity focused.

Nonsense.

[Magic Is Magic]

You do you OP. You clearly put an effort into this. While I do not agree with your rankings, I at least appreciate the effort.

Thank you GreenBloodedC, I appreciate that. One thing we can all be certain about is that there will never be a list that we can agree with 100% but at least I made the effort to judge each and every player across equal criteria so thank you for appreciating the work because I can be honest to you it does take a while to add up all the data and assigning values that make sense. And then updating all the numbers each year when players add more value to their rankings. How do you feel with Bill Russell as 4th all time only behind LBJ, MJ and Kareem?

[Magic Is Magic]

For example, this season + playoffs by Giannis was superior to any single Kobe year.
Peak Giannis > Peak Kobe but Kobe is listed far higher here since it is longevity focused.

Nonsense.

Yes very nonsense, Kobe is ranked 9th all time for a reason. 5 rings, great longevity, multiple MVP caliber years and an amazing 2 way player. Nothing can take that away with just one single good year.

[MrPerfect1]

For example, this season + playoffs by Giannis was superior to any single Kobe year.
Peak Giannis > Peak Kobe but Kobe is listed far higher here since it is longevity focused.

Nonsense.

Hard to respond to post with such a detailed argument. Let's take what many consider his best year 2005/2006. If you want another year then we can choose that 1. Let's look at Data:

2005 Kobe: 35.4/5.3/4.5/55.9 TS%/38.7 USG

2020 Giannis: 28.1/11/5.9/63.3 TS%/32.5 USG

Giannis easily wins that matchup. The difference between the TS% is massive. The rebounding differential is a joke. Despite lower usage averages more assists too.

Also, despite both being 1st team All NBA almost everyone acknowledges bigs having a bigger defensive impact than wings which would be another advantage for Giannis.

It becomes even more lopsided when you add the playoffs for that year.

[MrPerfect1]

For example, this season + playoffs by Giannis was superior to any single Kobe year.
Peak Giannis > Peak Kobe but Kobe is listed far higher here since it is longevity focused.

Nonsense.

Yes very nonsense, Kobe is ranked 9th all time for a reason. 5 rings, great longevity, multiple MVP caliber years and an amazing 2 way player. Nothing can take that away with just one single good year.

Once again, you are valuing longevity over peak.

Someone who is a 98/100 for 1 Season then retires is a Greater player than who is a 96/100 for 20 Seasons since 98>96.

If your life was on the line and you could choose a player to win that 1 game for you, you would pick the 98/100 every single time.

It is similar to how if Mahomes retires today, he is already greater than Aikman. It is why Terrell Davis and Sayers are greater than Bettis and Curtis Martin.

[Knightfall]

Curry is ranked 30th. Meanwhile CP3 is 19th and Harden is 26th.

Sorry but this ranking is a total bullsh*t.

So you dont like those 3 positions, you call it total BS. What if he got 20 places wrong? Do you call that other worldly BS?

In your dictionary, what is half BS then? I guess that's 2 places wrong. What if he got 1 place wrong and you don't like about it, tiny BS? Why people like you have to talk like this. It's a clear sign of posting with emotion rather than sense. You don't like something, it's total BS. One player is better than the other, "it's not even close". Someone doesn't agree with you, get the F outta here u know nothing about basektball. People love to talk like bad asses these days on internet like that's the only way to talk.

I mean it's not like he put Javale McGee at 17th and Doctor J at 33th. Paul, Curry, Harden each has a case of being better than the other two whether it's a strong case or a not-so-popular one. They have their own arguments depending on how you evaluate players and what angles you are coming from. OP certainly put lot of effort into his formulas which generate a pretty decent ranking for the most part, and that warrant a "total BS" from you?

Compared to OP's list, I think your post is total BS. The way you post is what's wrong with this board these days.

You don't think that's one fatal mistake? Joke's on you.

I'll play along and list some more obvious mistakes.
* Curry lower than CP3 and Harden
* Kawhi lower than CP3
* KG lower than CP3
* Nash lower than Kidd
* Wade lower than Harden and CP3

It's obvious a formula he created which still makes it a opinion piece. The joke would be on you for claiming anything different. You would place Nash above Kidd on a all time list while Kidd was the better player. His defense, assists, championship prove that. Has 300 more 3s then nash, and nash was known as a threat from 3 while Kidd wasnt. So see jokes on you for your flawed opinion and system. Both were known as playmakers and both fall in the top 3 but Kidd has him by 2000 assists. Kidd is 2nd all time is steals. Nash isnt anywhere close to that and is almost half of that. In his career Nash has 3642 rebounds. In his 7 season with the Nets alone Kidd has 3662. Career total 8725. More then double that of Nash. Now who's the true supervillain. Hahaha. What a joke.

[Strepbacter]

For example, this season + playoffs by Giannis was superior to any single Kobe year.
Peak Giannis > Peak Kobe but Kobe is listed far higher here since it is longevity focused.

Nonsense.

Hard to respond to post with such a detailed argument. Let's take what many consider his best year 2005/2006. If you want another year then we can choose that 1. Let's look at Data:

2005 Kobe: 35.4/5.3/4.5/55.9 TS%/38.7 USG

2020 Giannis: 28.1/11/5.9/63.3 TS%/32.5 USG

Giannis easily wins that matchup. The difference between the TS% is massive. The rebounding differential is a joke. Despite lower usage averages more assists too.

Also, despite both being 1st team All NBA almost everyone acknowledges bigs having a bigger defensive impact than wings which would be another advantage for Giannis.

It becomes even more lopsided when you add the playoffs for that year.

Bro your argument is terrible. Just raw numbers+ raw TS. You're missing a staggering amount of context and information. Besides, 2006 Kobe was stuck playing with garbage. You know comparing their playoff runs is silly

And 2006 is not Kobe's peak.

[AussieRules]

The list focuses too much on accomplishments rather than peak seasons, unless this is an accomplishments list rather than Best players list.

For example, this season + playoffs by Giannis was superior to any single Kobe year.
Peak Giannis > Peak Kobe but Kobe is listed far higher here since it is longevity focused.

Yeah it’s good to focus on accomplishments and longevity to get rid of one hit wonders.

[GreenBloodedC]

You do you OP. You clearly put an effort into this. While I do not agree with your rankings, I at least appreciate the effort.

Thank you GreenBloodedC, I appreciate that. One thing we can all be certain about is that there will never be a list that we can agree with 100% but at least I made the effort to judge each and every player across equal criteria so thank you for appreciating the work because I can be honest to you it does take a while to add up all the data and assigning values that make sense. And then updating all the numbers each year when players add more value to their rankings. How do you feel with Bill Russell as 4th all time only behind LBJ, MJ and Kareem?

I don't mind Russell ranked as 4th actually. Russell may be ranked from first to fourth depending on the criteria. But I do think he should not be lower than 4th.

In fact, I'm actually glad Russell is ranked 4th based on your criteria. I understand that your formula considered , peak play, and longevity. Most fans who did not see nor studied Russell's era think that Russell is considered among the GOATs just because of the "rangz" and he played in a relatively weak era.

[Magic Is Magic]

Nonsense.

Yes very nonsense, Kobe is ranked 9th all time for a reason. 5 rings, great longevity, multiple MVP caliber years and an amazing 2 way player. Nothing can take that away with just one single good year.

Once again, you are valuing longevity over peak.

Someone who is a 98/100 for 1 Season then retires is a Greater player than who is a 96/100 for 20 Seasons since 98>96.

If your life was on the line and you could choose a player to win that 1 game for you, you would pick the 98/100 every single time.

It is similar to how if Mahomes retires today, he is already greater than Aikman. It is why Terrell Davis and Sayers are greater than Bettis and Curtis Martin.

Isn't the script easy enough to flip by saying you are valuing peak over longevity/consistency? Your fallacy is comparing one year to one year when we are assessing a player's entire career. This formula list is a career ranking, not a "one year best season for each player" ranking. You are mixing up your thoughts with what an all-time career ranking actually is. This list and other all-time lists looks at the entire body of work done by a player, not just their best season. It looks at the entire body of work.

[Roger Murdock]

Hello community,

I created an all-time NBA ranking formula metrics and every year I update the numbers after the playoffs have concluded. The obvious big mover after 2021 is Giannis but his career is still young and he did not jump as many spots as most people think but the good news is he has so many more years to build on his steady foundation. At the end of 2020 Giannis was 38th and now after his impressive 2021 showing he is ranked 31 according to my formula. Like I'm saying his career is still so early he has plenty of time to keep rising. So does Curry, Harden and Durant but for guys like Westbrook his best years are well behind him. I use a 25-point ranking system that takes many things into consideration, things like MVP winners, FMVP winners, Rings, All NBA 1st team and 2nd team, All Defensive 1st and 2nd team, Top 3 MVP finishes, Top 5 MVP finishes, Top 3 Rebounding, Top 5 rebounding, PER over 25.0, WS/48 over .250, BPM over 7.0 (these are all looked at for RS and PO), All star selections, and other categories. After all these data points and calculations here is what the results produced from my "Magic is Magic, Magic Formula"

1 ...LeBron James = 87.76
2 ...Michael Jordan = 85.02
3 ...Kareem A-Jabbar = 72.92
4 ...Tim Duncan = 57.79
5 ...Bill Russell = 56.13
6 ...Wilt Chamberlain = 54.99
7 ...Magic Johnson = 48.61
8 ...Shaquille O'Neal = 46.63
9 ...Kobe Bryant = 42.73
10 ...Larry Bird = 39.21
11 ...Hakeem Olajuwon = 35.54
12 ...Kevin Durant = 33.25
13 ...Karl Malone = 32.76
14 ...Jerry West = 32.13
15 ...Dirk Nowitzki = 31.22
16 ...Moses Malone = 28.59
17 ...David Robinson = 28.39
18 ...Oscar Robertson = 28.37
19 ...Chris Paul = 28.18
20 ...George Mikan = 27.85
21 ...Bob Cousy = 27.78
22 ...Kevin Garnett = 27.44
23 ...Julius Erving = 27.40
24 ...Bob Pettit = 26.49
25 ...Kawhi Leonard = 23.91
26 ...James Harden = 23.63
27 ...Charles Barkley = 22.78
28 ...John Havlicek = 22.39
29 ...John Stockton = 21.81
30 ...Stephen Curry = 21.31
31 ...Giannis Antetekuompo = 21.23
32 ...Dwyane Wade = 20.52
33 ...Dolph Schayes = 20.06
34 ...Jason Kidd = 20.04
35 ...Elgin Baylor = 18.81
36 ...Willis Reed = 17.61
37 ...Scottie Pippen = 17.41
38 ...Steve Nash = 17.40
39 ...Russell Westbrook = 16.82
40 ...Elvin Hayes = 14.37
41 ...Rick Barry = 14.02
42 ...Walt Frazier = 13.82
43 ...Anthony Davis = 13.32
44 ...Allen Iverson = 13.11
45 ...George Gervin = 13.05
46 ...Patrick Ewing = 12.50
47 ...Isiah Thomas = 12.00
48 ...Paul Pierce = 10.86
49 ...Bill Walton = 10.78
50 ...Artis Gilmore = 10.50

Giannis' impressive run jumped him up from 38 to 31 where he passed up
Elgin Baylor
Scottie Pippen
Jason Kidd
Willis Reed
Russell Westbrook
Dwyane Wade

His combination of winning DPOY, FMVP, 2 MVPs with a lot of strong seasons has almost leaped him into top 30. I expect him to have a chance at top 10 if he can keep up his impressive play and suppress KD from winning MVP or FMVP he has strong for top 10.

**UPDATED LIST on PAGE FIVE**

Its very clear that your formula puts an incredible weight on finals MVPs. This allows someone like Kawhi to rocket past Steph Curry even though Curry has been a far more accomplished player than Kawhi in both the regular season and post season. Frankly its not even close. I'm guessing that Leonard is getting an enormous bump for the 2014 Finals MVP even though it was like his 6th or 7th best individual post season. Has Curry ever been worse in the post-season than Leonard was in 2014? Probably not but it seems Leonard is getting a ton of credit for a year when he was worse than most people on this list.

FMVP traditionally goes to all time players but there are some terrible data-points in there historically that need to be accounted for.

[Magic Is Magic]

Hello community,

I created an all-time NBA ranking formula metrics and every year I update the numbers after the playoffs have concluded. The obvious big mover after 2021 is Giannis but his career is still young and he did not jump as many spots as most people think but the good news is he has so many more years to build on his steady foundation. At the end of 2020 Giannis was 38th and now after his impressive 2021 showing he is ranked 31 according to my formula. Like I'm saying his career is still so early he has plenty of time to keep rising. So does Curry, Harden and Durant but for guys like Westbrook his best years are well behind him. I use a 25-point ranking system that takes many things into consideration, things like MVP winners, FMVP winners, Rings, All NBA 1st team and 2nd team, All Defensive 1st and 2nd team, Top 3 MVP finishes, Top 5 MVP finishes, Top 3 Rebounding, Top 5 rebounding, PER over 25.0, WS/48 over .250, BPM over 7.0 (these are all looked at for RS and PO), All star selections, and other categories. After all these data points and calculations here is what the results produced from my "Magic is Magic, Magic Formula"

1 ...LeBron James = 87.76
2 ...Michael Jordan = 85.02
3 ...Kareem A-Jabbar = 72.92
4 ...Tim Duncan = 57.79
5 ...Bill Russell = 56.13
6 ...Wilt Chamberlain = 54.99
7 ...Magic Johnson = 48.61
8 ...Shaquille O'Neal = 46.63
9 ...Kobe Bryant = 42.73
10 ...Larry Bird = 39.21
11 ...Hakeem Olajuwon = 35.54
12 ...Kevin Durant = 33.25
13 ...Karl Malone = 32.76
14 ...Jerry West = 32.13
15 ...Dirk Nowitzki = 31.22
16 ...Moses Malone = 28.59
17 ...David Robinson = 28.39
18 ...Oscar Robertson = 28.37
19 ...Chris Paul = 28.18
20 ...George Mikan = 27.85
21 ...Bob Cousy = 27.78
22 ...Kevin Garnett = 27.44
23 ...Julius Erving = 27.40
24 ...Bob Pettit = 26.49
25 ...Kawhi Leonard = 23.91
26 ...James Harden = 23.63
27 ...Charles Barkley = 22.78
28 ...John Havlicek = 22.39
29 ...John Stockton = 21.81
30 ...Stephen Curry = 21.31
31 ...Giannis Antetekuompo = 21.23
32 ...Dwyane Wade = 20.52
33 ...Dolph Schayes = 20.06
34 ...Jason Kidd = 20.04
35 ...Elgin Baylor = 18.81
36 ...Willis Reed = 17.61
37 ...Scottie Pippen = 17.41
38 ...Steve Nash = 17.40
39 ...Russell Westbrook = 16.82
40 ...Elvin Hayes = 14.37
41 ...Rick Barry = 14.02
42 ...Walt Frazier = 13.82
43 ...Anthony Davis = 13.32
44 ...Allen Iverson = 13.11
45 ...George Gervin = 13.05
46 ...Patrick Ewing = 12.50
47 ...Isiah Thomas = 12.00
48 ...Paul Pierce = 10.86
49 ...Bill Walton = 10.78
50 ...Artis Gilmore = 10.50

Giannis' impressive run jumped him up from 38 to 31 where he passed up
Elgin Baylor
Scottie Pippen
Jason Kidd
Willis Reed
Russell Westbrook
Dwyane Wade

His combination of winning DPOY, FMVP, 2 MVPs with a lot of strong seasons has almost leaped him into top 30. I expect him to have a chance at top 10 if he can keep up his impressive play and suppress KD from winning MVP or FMVP he has strong for top 10.

**UPDATED LIST on PAGE FIVE**

Its very clear that your formula puts an incredible weight on finals MVPs. This allows someone like Kawhi to rocket past Steph Curry even though Curry has been a far more accomplished player than Kawhi in both the regular season and post season. Frankly its not even close. I'm guessing that Leonard is getting an enormous bump for the 2014 Finals MVP even though it was like his 6th or 7th best individual post season. Has Curry ever been worse in the post-season than Leonard was in 2014? Probably not but it seems Leonard is getting a ton of credit for a year when he was worse than most people on this list.

FMVP traditionally goes to all time players but there are some terrible data-points in there historically that need to be accounted for.

Hello Roger, with the updated list and less value to FMVP the new rankings for them are on page 5 and listed below

25. Chris Paul 30.7
26. John Havlicek 27.6
27. James Harden 27.2
28. Stephen Curry 26.3
29. Kawhi Leonard 25.6

Curry did pass Kawhi by a small margin but CP3 is still over Curry which means Curry is lacking other things aside from a Finals MVP. His defensive end is what hurts his all time ranking the most. For an ex Kawhi has 7 all defensive 1st/2nd teams, CP3 has 9 and Curry has zero. The other difference between these three is Playoff WS. Among these three (CP3, Kawhi and Curry) Curry is 3rd in Playoff WS. So really Curry's MVP and Rings are holding him within contention of these two but his lack of defensive skillset and slightly lower Playoff WS is leveling things out. As mentioned, CP3 is at the end of his career and Curry has plenty of time to build more quality tier seasons and pass Chris Paul eventually.

[Roger Murdock]

^ I missed that thanks for the update. I think overall your list is very good was just trying to point out a potential flaw (which you've already recognized.

Overall nothing seems crazy and whatever your doing makes sense.

[TheNG]

I think it is wrong.
You don't need 25 categories to measure greatness. In science there is a rule "the simplest explanation is usually the best one" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor). Having all these categories is just a way to cherry pick you formula to match your personal belief, which, as can be seen, does not comply to the public consensus. Once you focus on the most important stuff in these categories, you will see who the greats really are. Hint: there are only 3 players with at least 5 rings and 5 MVPs, and LeBron is not one of them.

[ken6199]

Imagine a player with less WS, playing with better teammates. They had more success. The other player with more WS, playing with worse teammates, less team success. Player B would have less astonishing stats if you surround him with better teammates, so his numbers won't be as impressive, but they are likely to have more team success. See? It goes both ways.

However on realgm, this becomes:
- player A's numbers aren't reflected on the boxscores, he plays to win, and he is a winner
- player B is a stat padder, he doesn't make his teammates better, the guy is a loser

Spoiler:

WS/48 playoff comparison:

Player A
7 post seasons with one team, average WS/48 .194
5 finals, 3 rings, he is a winner

Player B
3 post seasons with team A, average WS/48 .207
6 post seasons with team B, average WS/48 .210
"achieved nothing, can't sniff conference finals, he is a choker"