Prime Time: Melo vs PG13

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Which star do you take in their prime?

Poll ended at Sat Sep 4, 2021 11:52 am

Prime Melo
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Prime PG13
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#81 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 5, 2021 12:36 am

The same people saying Pandemic P > Melo are the same people who thought Jared Dudley was better than Melo when he was blackballed out of the league for a year. Never change GB.
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#82 » by TTP » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:00 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Melo was unguardable in his prime. Could never say the same for play off P.


3toheadmelo wrote:Paul George couldn’t even guard him in his prime. Melo torched him every time. It’s a no brainer for me.


3toheadmelo wrote:If Paul George can’t guard him then all that talk about his defense goes out the window.



3toheadmelo wrote:The same people saying Pandemic P > Melo are the same people who thought Jared Dudley was better than Melo when he was blackballed out of the league for a year. Never change GB.


These are good examples of weak arguments that Melo fans have to resort to because they can't make a data driven argument. Mostly filled with unverifiable narrative based claims and then your typical "these are the same people" nonsense where you start talking about things completely outside the relevant discussion rather than attempting to make a counterargument towards anyone that you disagree with.

The bolded might be the most accurate comment you've made given the amount of effort you've put in to support your claims.
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#83 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:10 am

TTP wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Melo was unguardable in his prime. Could never say the same for play off P.


3toheadmelo wrote:Paul George couldn’t even guard him in his prime. Melo torched him every time. It’s a no brainer for me.


3toheadmelo wrote:If Paul George can’t guard him then all that talk about his defense goes out the window.



3toheadmelo wrote:The same people saying Pandemic P > Melo are the same people who thought Jared Dudley was better than Melo when he was blackballed out of the league for a year. Never change GB.


These are good examples of weak arguments that Melo fans have to resort to because they can't make a data driven argument. Mostly filled with unverifiable narrative based claims and then your typical "these are the same people" nonsense where you start talking about things completely outside the relevant discussion rather than attempting to make a counterargument towards anyone that you disagree with.

The bolded might be the most accurate comment you've made given the amount of effort you've put in to support your claims.

Like I said never change GB. Your posts are complete trash. That’s why I’m not responding to your horrible posts. Plus I’ve already countered with enough arguments. The fact that you still think Pandemic P is better than Prime Melo with a straight face just shows your lack of basketball IQ. Try again better next time pal. I can tell you’re big mad Melo is back in the league. Im enjoying the tears from the anti Melo crowd. Enjoy your night.
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#84 » by MrBigShot » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:15 am

Damn Paul George literally had one bad post season and somehow built this reputation that he's a consistent choker. The guy has actually played really well the playoffs throughout his career, including this most recent playoffs. Peak Melo is the more talented offensive player, but PG's style is more portable/better suited to playing with other offensive talent since he's not a ball stopper, and he brings superior defense and playmaking.
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#85 » by SharpyShuffle » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:17 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
TTP wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Melo was unguardable in his prime. Could never say the same for play off P.


3toheadmelo wrote:Paul George couldn’t even guard him in his prime. Melo torched him every time. It’s a no brainer for me.


3toheadmelo wrote:If Paul George can’t guard him then all that talk about his defense goes out the window.



3toheadmelo wrote:The same people saying Pandemic P > Melo are the same people who thought Jared Dudley was better than Melo when he was blackballed out of the league for a year. Never change GB.


These are good examples of weak arguments that Melo fans have to resort to because they can't make a data driven argument. Mostly filled with unverifiable narrative based claims and then your typical "these are the same people" nonsense where you start talking about things completely outside the relevant discussion rather than attempting to make a counterargument towards anyone that you disagree with.

The bolded might be the most accurate comment you've made given the amount of effort you've put in to support your claims.

Like I said never change GB. Your posts are complete trash. That’s why I’m not responding to your horrible posts. Plus I’ve already countered with enough arguments. The fact that you still think Pandemic P is better than Prime Melo with a straight face just shows your lack of basketball IQ. Try again better next time pal. I can tell you’re big mad Melo is back in the league. Im enjoying the tears from the anti Melo crowd. Enjoy your night.

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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#86 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:19 am

SharpyShuffle wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
TTP wrote:







These are good examples of weak arguments that Melo fans have to resort to because they can't make a data driven argument. Mostly filled with unverifiable narrative based claims and then your typical "these are the same people" nonsense where you start talking about things completely outside the relevant discussion rather than attempting to make a counterargument towards anyone that you disagree with.

The bolded might be the most accurate comment you've made given the amount of effort you've put in to support your claims.

Like I said never change GB. Your posts are complete trash. That’s why I’m not responding to your horrible posts. Plus I’ve already countered with enough arguments. The fact that you still think Pandemic P is better than Prime Melo with a straight face just shows your lack of basketball IQ. Try again better next time pal. I can tell you’re big mad Melo is back in the league. Im enjoying the tears from the anti Melo crowd. Enjoy your night.

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For anyone curious, this is an individual who does not live in reality and can't accept facts. Yikes!
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#87 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:21 am

Yall stat geeks let me know when a GOAT says this about Pandemic P.
It was the second season after the Lakers had won the 2009/10 NBA title when Bryant was talking about how Melo was difficult to guard. In fact, Carmelo Anthony was the toughest to guard in the whole league as per Bryant.

“For me, yeah,” Bryant told in an interview in December 2012. “He’s always been a player that I enjoyed guarding the most. He was the most difficult because of his size and his speed.”


It was a comment coming from one of the most established players in the league. By then, Bryant was already a 12-time NBA All-Star and a five-time NBA Champion.

“Melo does it all and he’s as strong as a bull,” Bryant said. “For me, I weigh [180 pounds] soaking wet. Going up against that bull, man, it’s fun but it’s extremely challenging.”
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#88 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:34 am

Another one
Jordan in 2013 was asked who among the game's all-time greats he would choose to play in a game of one-on-one, notably with both players in their primes. He reeled off some intriguing choices: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Julius Erving, Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James.


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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#89 » by TTP » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:35 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
TTP wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Melo was unguardable in his prime. Could never say the same for play off P.


3toheadmelo wrote:Paul George couldn’t even guard him in his prime. Melo torched him every time. It’s a no brainer for me.


3toheadmelo wrote:If Paul George can’t guard him then all that talk about his defense goes out the window.



3toheadmelo wrote:The same people saying Pandemic P > Melo are the same people who thought Jared Dudley was better than Melo when he was blackballed out of the league for a year. Never change GB.


These are good examples of weak arguments that Melo fans have to resort to because they can't make a data driven argument. Mostly filled with unverifiable narrative based claims and then your typical "these are the same people" nonsense where you start talking about things completely outside the relevant discussion rather than attempting to make a counterargument towards anyone that you disagree with.

The bolded might be the most accurate comment you've made given the amount of effort you've put in to support your claims.

Like I said never change GB. Your posts are complete trash. That’s why I’m not responding to your horrible posts. Plus I’ve already countered with enough arguments. The fact that you still think Pandemic P is better than Prime Melo with a straight face just shows your lack of basketball IQ. Try again better next time pal. I can tell you’re big mad Melo is back in the league. Im enjoying the tears from the anti Melo crowd. Enjoy your night.


Thanks for proving my point.
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#90 » by Optms » Sun Sep 5, 2021 1:46 am

donnieme wrote:Melo is your typical 2000s scorer who is great but somehow overrated in equal measure. This is a good totally not disrespectful comparison or landslide in any way. Maybe it's the iso scoring hype of the era that inflated their standing beyond their actual impact. He never really did anything resume wise or numbers wise to make it a no-brainer. Having said all that Melo was actually the better player imo but I'll take PG13. You're not winning with either as your 1st option, might as well go with the more versatile, more portable two way option. George might even be a better 2nd option than Melo is a 1st option.


Based on what we've seen from Olympic Melo, I think he would have been an elite second option ala Kyrie Irving.
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#91 » by JN61 » Sun Sep 5, 2021 3:28 am

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Meanwhile Melo was the leader of his team and did some noise in the playoffs in comparison.


Melo won 3 Playoff series in 18 years. His playoff resume is getting regularly shut down on 50% TS or below and losing in 1st rounds.

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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#92 » by RunOKC » Sun Sep 5, 2021 4:05 am

PG13 no question

Defense + Offense > Offense
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#93 » by DroseReturnChi » Sun Sep 5, 2021 4:07 am

RunOKC wrote:PG13 no question

Defense + Offense > Offense


thats only indiana era when his offense was barely comparable. other yrs his offense falls off too much especially clippers pandemic p its not even close. melo his peak was better and olympic melo was another thing.
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#94 » by toodles23 » Sun Sep 5, 2021 8:06 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
TTP wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Melo was unguardable in his prime. Could never say the same for play off P.


3toheadmelo wrote:Paul George couldn’t even guard him in his prime. Melo torched him every time. It’s a no brainer for me.


3toheadmelo wrote:If Paul George can’t guard him then all that talk about his defense goes out the window.



3toheadmelo wrote:The same people saying Pandemic P > Melo are the same people who thought Jared Dudley was better than Melo when he was blackballed out of the league for a year. Never change GB.


These are good examples of weak arguments that Melo fans have to resort to because they can't make a data driven argument. Mostly filled with unverifiable narrative based claims and then your typical "these are the same people" nonsense where you start talking about things completely outside the relevant discussion rather than attempting to make a counterargument towards anyone that you disagree with.

The bolded might be the most accurate comment you've made given the amount of effort you've put in to support your claims.

Like I said never change GB. Your posts are complete trash. That’s why I’m not responding to your horrible posts. Plus I’ve already countered with enough arguments. The fact that you still think Pandemic P is better than Prime Melo with a straight face just shows your lack of basketball IQ. Try again better next time pal. I can tell you’re big mad Melo is back in the league. Im enjoying the tears from the anti Melo crowd. Enjoy your night.

A Melo fan accusing other people of lacking BBIQ is some great irony

The only aspect of the game they're comparable is scoring, and in the playoffs PG is clearly better at it. Melo fell apart as a scorer almost every year of his career in the playoffs. PG is also easily the better passer and blows Melo out of the water as a defender. What possible argument is there for Melo here?
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#95 » by Ballerhogger » Sun Sep 5, 2021 8:08 am

Melo was never the choke artist of PG
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#96 » by Galloisdaman » Sun Sep 5, 2021 11:40 am

3toheadmelo wrote:The same people saying Pandemic P > Melo are the same people who thought Jared Dudley was better than Melo when he was blackballed out of the league for a year. Never change GB.


The same people? Really? I have never made a single post about Jared Dudley in my life. I doubt anyone else in this thread said that either.
I'm curious why do you think all the leagues owners and GMs would blackball Melo? And if they did then why did they change their minds and un-blackball him?
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Re: Prime Time: Melo vs PG13 

Post#97 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Sep 5, 2021 12:38 pm

Carmelo doesn’t have near the scoring accolades or numbers that people suggest he does from his reputation. And it’s more damning because it’s the only part of the game he put any effort at all into.
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