Does it bother you that NBA Champions is referred as 'World Champions"?

[D.Brasco]

ahhh another unsubtle thread bashing America. You guys not tired of this yet?

I wonder who these people who lie awake at night trying to sleep but can't, because the the NBA finals winners are referred to as World Champs are?

[Nate505]

Pretty much every team sport has one national/continental league that is obviously the strongest, yet only US national leagues call their winners "World champions".

Pretty much every international poster thinks this is wrong, yet most US posters think it's ok.

I think I see a trend here.

Same. International posters get real riled up about pretty obvious hyperbole, while US posters don't give a ****.

If the Aussie Rules Football league champ called themselves the World Champions, I couldn't possibly imagine caring less about it.

[BodieB]

This is more of that international fans inferiority complex. I hope you all reconcile your feelings on this someday.

[Capn'O]

Honestly, despite the NBA being more of a global league than baseball or football I mostly hear it referred to as NBA Champs.

[Else_where]

If OP is that bothered by it, then stop following another country's basketball league. Pay attention to your own and you won't be so stressed out about what Americans call their own sports teams.

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I am an American so wtf does "watch your own country's league" even mean, stop embarrassing yourself with idiotic sentences like that, try harder.

[liquidswords]

Doesn't bother me in the least. The NBA is the premier basketball league in the world. Sorry to the Euroleague fanboy crew.

[azcatz11]

Shane Larkin won an MVP in Europe...so yeah, calling the NBA champion 'world champions' seems pretty correct to me.

[The Laker Kid]

Yes. Everything in America is "World" like they're the only people on Earth. I even see license plate frames that say "Wold Famous Beverly Hills BMW". I work 2 blocks away from this dealership and never heard of them until this douche on a BMW cut me off and I saw the stupid plate frame.

[HeartBreakKid]

They're usually referred to as the NBA champions not the world champions.

Also, just because it is based in one country doesn't mean that they cannot recognize a World Champion. It's not any different than what the UFC or boxing orgs or pro wrestling orgs do. It's not like anyone is putting a gun to the Chinese basketball league head to make them acknowledge the Bucks as the world champs.

Furthermore, unlike most domestic leagues, the NBA has no limit on how many foreign players can play on one team. So the teams and talents of the clubs themselves are absolutely global - they just happen to have their games played in USA and Canada.

For all intent and purposes, the champions of the NBA have the right to be called the best club in the world. So it seems quite appropriate. Seems like a non issue since they are seldom called the world champions.

[madmaxmedia]

It doesn't bother me but it's unnecessary in American football because it has next to no global presence. But in the NBA and MLB it's more accurate to say they are world champions because they are global sports, it's just that all the best international players from around the world play in a league that is centralized to North America.

I don't think you can crown anyone a 'world champion' though unless you actually have a world championship tournament. Even though the playoff bracket for it is sorta weird, the winners of the Little League World Series can actually call themselves Little League world champions.

Calling the champions of our major sports 'world champions' is a jingoistic anachronism, but it doesn't bother me- it's an unofficial term anyways (besides the 'World Series'.) It's more just that we're used to the terms more than anything else, plus for most of these sports the US leagues typically are the best anyway.

[Else_where]

Yes. Everything in America is "World" like they're the only people on Earth. I even see license plate frames that say "Wold Famous Beverly Hills BMW". I work 2 blocks away from this dealership and never heard of them until this douche on a BMW cut me off and I saw the stupid plate frame.

This is part of the cultural problem. Like many Americans calling USA "best country in the world" despite most of them not even having travelled to a foreign country or even a neighbor state. USA is 14th in global liveability index or doesn't even have a city in Top 30 for example but kids are brainwashed to believe other countries are struggling to live and USA is "the greatest nation on earth" or "NY best city to live" etc which is bunch of garbage. An average American would die to live like a human in Switzerland or Sweden if they have ever seen those countries and objectively compare.

[HeartBreakKid]

Yes. Everything in America is "World" like they're the only people on Earth. I even see license plate frames that say "Wold Famous Beverly Hills BMW". I work 2 blocks away from this dealership and never heard of them until this douche on a BMW cut me off and I saw the stupid plate frame.

This is part of the cultural problem. Like many Americans calling USA "best country in the world" despite most of them not even having travelled to a foreign country or even a neighbor state. USA is 14th in global liveability index for example but kids are brainwashed to believe other countries are struggling to live and USA is "the greatest nation on earth" which is bunch of garbage. An average American would die to live like a human in Switzerland or Sweden if they have ever seen those countries and objectively compare.

Erm...depends on what you're interested in and your priorities. Global index is basically ranking which places are nice to have a steady job and a nuclear family. There are a lot of things that suck about Switzerland and Sweden that do not exist to the same extent in USA and vice versa.

I actually would not want to live in Switzerland at all...it's not a cheap place to live and I could hardly care about crime rate (I live in a place with less crime anyway). I also enjoy big urban experiences, which is not something Switzerland offers (at least not to my liking). There is also cultural preferences.

But yes, you are right, most Americans do not know much about the world to have an informed opinion. Albeit, pretty much most people in the world are nearly equally as ignorant if not equally.

[Else_where]

Yes. Everything in America is "World" like they're the only people on Earth. I even see license plate frames that say "Wold Famous Beverly Hills BMW". I work 2 blocks away from this dealership and never heard of them until this douche on a BMW cut me off and I saw the stupid plate frame.

This is part of the cultural problem. Like many Americans calling USA "best country in the world" despite most of them not even having travelled to a foreign country or even a neighbor state. USA is 14th in global liveability index for example but kids are brainwashed to believe other countries are struggling to live and USA is "the greatest nation on earth" which is bunch of garbage. An average American would die to live like a human in Switzerland or Sweden if they have ever seen those countries and objectively compare.

Erm...depends on what you're interested in and your priorities. Global index is basically ranking which places are nice to have a steady job and a nuclear family. There are a lot of things that suck about Switzerland and Sweden that do not exist to the same extent in USA and vice versa.

I actually would not want to live in Switzerland at all...it's not a cheap place to live and I could hardly care about crime rate (I live in a place with less crime anyway).

But yes, you are right, most Americans do not know much about the world to have a well informed opinion. Albeit, pretty much most people in the world are nearly equally as ignorant.

no, that index is based on healthcare, freedom, education, phsyical and mental health rankings, wealth, employment, safety and security. so it's not "depends on what you enjoy and what your priorities are"

[ACMFFL]

It's the best basketball league in the world so it should be "world champions".

By that logic the UEFA Champions League winner should claim the title of world champion just because the UCL is the best football league in the world..

Yeah, that sounds logical. Maybe you guys should do that instead of complaining on here.

I'm not complaining, it doesn't even bother me, I'm just saying in my mindset you have to play in a worldwide competition to gain that title no matter how good is your national/continental league.


But ehi there no reason to take it personal with bs like the inferiority complex. I've nothing against the USA and I guess the same goes for most of those who agree with me.

[HeartBreakKid]

This is part of the cultural problem. Like many Americans calling USA "best country in the world" despite most of them not even having travelled to a foreign country or even a neighbor state. USA is 14th in global liveability index for example but kids are brainwashed to believe other countries are struggling to live and USA is "the greatest nation on earth" which is bunch of garbage. An average American would die to live like a human in Switzerland or Sweden if they have ever seen those countries and objectively compare.

Erm...depends on what you're interested in and your priorities. Global index is basically ranking which places are nice to have a steady job and a nuclear family. There are a lot of things that suck about Switzerland and Sweden that do not exist to the same extent in USA and vice versa.

I actually would not want to live in Switzerland at all...it's not a cheap place to live and I could hardly care about crime rate (I live in a place with less crime anyway).

But yes, you are right, most Americans do not know much about the world to have a well informed opinion. Albeit, pretty much most people in the world are nearly equally as ignorant.

no, that index is based on healthcare, freedom, education, phsyical and mental health rankings, wealth, employment, safety and security. so it's not "depends on what you enjoy and what your priorities are"

Yeah...like...so basically your ability to have a nuclear family and a steady job (I'm not being literal). People have different life styles. I much rather live in Mexico City than Oslo - my life would objectively be worse in Oslo, even though Oslo has on average higher education, healthcare, employment, safety and security. Because most of those things are not relevant to my situation. Not very difficult to understand quite frankly.

I did not say the index is based on what people enjoy and prioritize....I said that what someone thinks is the "greatest nation" or what ever, is based on your interest and priorities...which is literally true. It is subjective. I did not redefine the index, not sure how you got that.

[Harry Garris]

It doesn't bother me but it's unnecessary in American football because it has next to no global presence. But in the NBA and MLB it's more accurate to say they are world champions because they are global sports, it's just that all the best international players from around the world play in a league that is centralized to North America.

I don't think you can crown anyone a 'world champion' though unless you actually have a world championship tournament. Even though the playoff bracket for it is sorta weird, the winners of the Little League World Series can actually call themselves Little League world champions.

Calling the champions of our major sports 'world champions' is a jingoistic anachronism, but it doesn't bother me- it's an unofficial term anyways (besides the 'World Series'.) It's more just that we're used to the terms more than anything else, plus for most of these sports the US leagues typically are the best anyway.

The NBA Finals, Superbowl, and Stanley Cup aren't called the world championship though. Not officially. I wouldn't get too worked up about what fans unofficially call it. Fans say all kinds of crazy inaccurate things all the time.

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[Ugalde]

doesnt bother me at all. never noticed it until people started pointing it out. in football and baseball there are 0 international teams that could even challenge them at their sports. they are definitely world champions.

basketball would at least be a challenge. but they’re still basically the world champions.

[J_T]

There are a lot of things that suck about Switzerland

Name 3 things that objectively suck about Switzerland. It's the only democratic country in the world.

[Hogesy]

It doesn't bother me but it's unnecessary in American football because it has next to no global presence. But in the NBA and MLB it's more accurate to say they are world champions because they are global sports, it's just that all the best international players from around the world play in a league that is centralized to North America.

I get what you are saying but i wouldn't call baseball a global sports yet, they are far from it imo. I can't even name 1 European country that has baseball even as a Top 10 sport.

Reading all these just shows the arrogance and ignorance of the Americans. For example baseball is massive is Japan but your whole world only revolves around good ol 'Merica that is all you know. Ice Hockey is massive in Europe and so is basketball. Look at the Olympics, if you took KD out of that team then the gold would have gone to Lithuania or Spain or Australia or who knows. That's because basketball exists in these countries and its normally a decent standard. To call yourselves "World Champions" is just laughable