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bebopdeluxe wrote:kio80 wrote:Kanter has nothing to lose, that’s his only way to stay relevant.
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"If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything" - Alexander Hamilton
He's more relevant than some jabroni busting his chops on a message board.
thebigbird wrote:Sebastian wrote:thebigbird wrote:Typed out on your iPhone, I imagine.
How do I delete someone else's comment? I feel so bad for you that I want to scrub the world of this attempt at a "gotcha." Oy **** vey.
You and everyone else criticizing LeBron on this issue regularly consume goods manufactured by slave labor in China. You’re probably typing out your responses on an electronic device manufactured by slave labor in China. You have no issue with that, but you’ll act all outraged about a comment LeBron made two years ago about China. Give me a break.
itrsteve wrote:Mephariel wrote:Every day he plays in the NBA, he benefits from the same money that Nike got from China. This is why his stance is laughable.
He still has a platform while he's in the NBA, even if perceived as hypocritical.
If some idiot painted a LeBron illustration on his shoes and just walked around Target, nobody would care.
But it got us talking, didn't it?
BodieB wrote:Even worse Kanter is doing this because there's no threat of LeBron of responding.
Mephariel wrote:KembaWalker wrote:Mephariel wrote:
Why would you support an organization that pours millions into China if you truly want to make a stand against China?
Daryl Morey was a lot braver. He actually could have lost his entire career as a GM. And he was one of the best in the league too.
Enes Kanter making a stand against China as an active NBA player is a much louder and more effective platform than Enes Kanter the former NBA player.
It's not hypocritical to not abstain from any and all Chinese product and culture to stand against the human rights violations of their government. Buying a phone is not the same as defending slavery from one of the biggest platforms anyone in the world has like LeBron did
Every day he plays in the NBA, he benefits from the same money that Nike got from China. This is why his stance is laughable.
If Kevin Durant said this, I would agree it is mad respect. If Jordan said, it would be mad respect.
LAL1947 wrote:shotsquatch wrote:Rapacious global capitalism exploiting slave labor in the all-consuming quest for profit is the fundamental problem here. Not LeBron. Kanter is mistaking the puppet for the puppeteer.
I don't think Kanter is going after Lebron over shoes... he's been going after MJ over shoes, which makes more sense since MJ owns a shoe company, right?
His beef with Lebron is over the statement Lebron made when Morey was expressing support for the Hong Kong protestors... saying he didn't think Morey was "educated enough about the situation". What did that even mean? Did it mean Lebron was more educated about the situation at hand? He must have been, if he didn't think Morey wasn't educated enough about it. And if he was, then he should have been leading the charge instead of Morey, since he's supposedly someone who uses his platform as a star NBA player to draw attention to human rights and social issues.
dockingsched wrote:People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.
Mephariel wrote:I mean that is his entire career. Talk and more talk.
Mephariel wrote:LAL1947 wrote:shotsquatch wrote:Rapacious global capitalism exploiting slave labor in the all-consuming quest for profit is the fundamental problem here. Not LeBron. Kanter is mistaking the puppet for the puppeteer.
I don't think Kanter is going after Lebron over shoes... he's been going after MJ over shoes, which makes more sense since MJ owns a shoe company, right?
His beef with Lebron is over the statement Lebron made when Morey was expressing support for the Hong Kong protestors... saying he didn't think Morey was "educated enough about the situation". What did that even mean? Did it mean Lebron was more educated about the situation at hand? He must have been, if he didn't think Morey wasn't educated enough about it. And if he was, then he should have been leading the charge instead of Morey, since he's supposedly someone who uses his platform as a star NBA player to draw attention to human rights and social issues.
What Lebron said was wrong. But If Kanter thinks that, go talk to Lebron man to man about it. Or say this, "I think what Lebron said was wrong. I don't think Morey was ignorant. I think China is a repressive regime that needs to be stop."
Going after Lebron with shoes...that is attention whore.
bebopdeluxe wrote:dockingsched wrote:People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.
Here. Let me help you with your confusion.
https://www.vox.com/world/2019/11/13/20941804/enes-kanter-nba-turkey-erdogan
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2902445-enes-kanter-gets-thousands-of-death-threats-daily-from-erdogan-supporters
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/15/18624628/enes-kanter-turkey-erdogan-nba-playoffs-trailblazers
This guy can't go back to Turkey - Erdogan's thugs would probably "disappear" him. Turkey had an Interpol "Red Notice" (kind of an arrest warrant) out for Kanter because of Kanter's outspoken criticism of one of the most dangerous autocrats in the world - a guy who has at his disposal an army that is ranked the 11th most powerful in the world. A guy who either strongarmed or (more likely) outwitted Trump (admittedly, not hard to do) into getting the US to pull out of Syria and sacrifice the Kurds in the process.
These comments about China are small potatoes for Kanter.
BoatsNZones wrote:Mephariel wrote:KembaWalker wrote:
Enes Kanter making a stand against China as an active NBA player is a much louder and more effective platform than Enes Kanter the former NBA player.
It's not hypocritical to not abstain from any and all Chinese product and culture to stand against the human rights violations of their government. Buying a phone is not the same as defending slavery from one of the biggest platforms anyone in the world has like LeBron did
Every day he plays in the NBA, he benefits from the same money that Nike got from China. This is why his stance is laughable.
If Kevin Durant said this, I would agree it is mad respect. If Jordan said, it would be mad respect.
This makes absolutely no sense to me. China is integrated into the fabric of the world on a manufacturing/ownership basis as much as the USA is on a cultural basis. Like most products that are owned by the US and otherwise, manufacturing is made in China (a terrible reality). Lebron is the only (ONLY) player who took on Morey when he made his stance against their governments transgressions in Hong Kong (Morey could have expounded on the issue, but was under his own leash that he was already stepping outside of). Lebron stepped out of his way to back the Chinese. THAT is an issue. THAT is what Kanter has spoken out against and is clowning him for currently in Lebron's radio silence re the current tennis players situation.
dockingsched wrote:bebopdeluxe wrote:dockingsched wrote:People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.
Here. Let me help you with your confusion.
https://www.vox.com/world/2019/11/13/20941804/enes-kanter-nba-turkey-erdogan
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2902445-enes-kanter-gets-thousands-of-death-threats-daily-from-erdogan-supporters
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/15/18624628/enes-kanter-turkey-erdogan-nba-playoffs-trailblazers
This guy can't go back to Turkey - Erdogan's thugs would probably "disappear" him. Turkey had an Interpol "Red Notice" (kind of an arrest warrant) out for Kanter because of Kanter's outspoken criticism of one of the most dangerous autocrats in the world - a guy who has at his disposal an army that is ranked the 11th most powerful in the world. A guy who either strongarmed or (more likely) outwitted Trump (admittedly, not hard to do) into getting the US to pull out of Syria and sacrifice the Kurds in the process.
These comments about China are small potatoes for Kanter.
What does this have to do with people thinking he’s being brave for going after Lebron?
Mephariel wrote:bebopdeluxe wrote:kio80 wrote:Kanter has nothing to lose, that’s his only way to stay relevant.
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"If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything" - Alexander Hamilton
He's more relevant than some jabroni busting his chops on a message board.
Kanter stand and talk.
Lebron walk the walk. Lebron has done more for country quantitively and inspirationally than Kanter could dream of.
dockingsched wrote:People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.
Mephariel wrote:BoatsNZones wrote:Mephariel wrote:
Every day he plays in the NBA, he benefits from the same money that Nike got from China. This is why his stance is laughable.
If Kevin Durant said this, I would agree it is mad respect. If Jordan said, it would be mad respect.
This makes absolutely no sense to me. China is integrated into the fabric of the world on a manufacturing/ownership basis as much as the USA is on a cultural basis. Like most products that are owned by the US and otherwise, manufacturing is made in China (a terrible reality). Lebron is the only (ONLY) player who took on Morey when he made his stance against their governments transgressions in Hong Kong (Morey could have expounded on the issue, but was under his own leash that he was already stepping outside of). Lebron stepped out of his way to back the Chinese. THAT is an issue. THAT is what Kanter has spoken out against and is clowning him for currently in Lebron's radio silence re the current tennis players situation.
It makes total sense. Kanter earn MILLIONS playing in a league knowing that those millions came from China. And you are right, Lebron benefited from China because China is a juggernaut economically and it is part of the world of capitalism. The thing is, Kanter benefited from this every single day he plays in the league. Why didn't Kanter praise Lebron for his charity work? Where was the "speaking out" on that? Why did he single this one thing that Lebron did? Because he has nothing to lose and he knows that how he gets attention.
