2022 All-Star reserves [UPDATED]

[KembaWalker]

Apparently the NBA posted then deleted a video announcing LaMelo as an all star, could be legit, could just be a premade video they have ready to go in case it happens.

Hopefully it's true, LaMelo is made to be in the all star game. One of the most exciting players in basketball

[LBJKB24MJ23]

I'm surprised people picked Garland over Ball.

its probably there are no standouts from Cleveland but they are like top 3 in the East right now and he's putting up the same counting stats as FVV.

[MambaCRNA88]

Apparently the NBA posted then deleted a video announcing LaMelo as an all star, could be legit, could just be a premade video they have ready to go in case it happens.

Hopefully it's true, LaMelo is made to be in the all star game. One of the most exciting players in basketball

The video is still up. lol! its on the NBA app, look for lamelo ball, its titled "lamelo ball 2021-22 highlights"

[Doctor MJ]

Eh, so, here's who I'd vote for given the spots left:

East:
Guard: DeMar DeRozan
Guard: Trae Young
Frontcourt: Kevin Durant (injured)
Frontcourt: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Frontcourt: Joel Embiid
Reserves
Guard: Darius Garland
Guard: Jrue Holiday
Frontcourt: Jimmy Butler
Frontcourt: Jayson Tatum
Frontcourt: Jarrett Allen
Wildcard: Kyle Lowry
Wildcard: Fred VanVleet
Injury replacement (Wildcard): James Harden

West:
Guard: Stephen Curry
Guard: Ja Morant
Frontcourt: LeBron James
Frontcourt: Nikola Jokic
Frontcourt: Andrew Wiggins
Reserves
Guard: Chris Paul
Guard: Devin Booker
Frontcourt: Rudy Gobert
Frontcourt: Draymond Green
Frontcourt: Mikal Bridges
Wildcard: Donovan Mitchell
Wildcard: Luka Doncic[/quote]

What of that seems unrealistic based on typical All-Star thinking?

- I think Harden & Zach LaVine are locks to get in from the jump. That would push two of the other guards out - might be Garland & Lowry. I'd expect one of those would get back in with the injury replacement (technically replacing a forward, but they already had a forward (DeRozan) in a guard spot so my guess is they'll be fine picking a guard there.

- I think KAT's going to get in and Bridges will not. It seems unlikely Bridges will get in even if there are injury replacements, but I think people underrate how valuable he is for the #1 seed.

Also, on my own vote, KAT would be the next guy on my list, so I'd expect KAT would end up an all-star in my universe when all was said and done.

[pingpongrac]

Rofl... Darius Garland is being disrespected so much by the fans and the media it seems.

He is the biggest reason the Cavs have a 30-19 record.

I don't know what some of the players/media were doing with their votes, but Garland at 5th (players) and 6th (media) is pretty fair. The fans (9th) probably could have done better, but he still wouldn't have been starting.

Tatum being 6th and 4th compared to Siakam at 10th and not even placing in the media is whack. Their teams have almost identical records and their stats are very similar (Tatum scores 5 more points on 4 more FGA and Siakam gets 1.5 more assists while everything else including efficiency and numerous advanced stats paint them in the same light). It must just be because Tatum is only 19 years old though.

Every single advanced stat (PER,Vorp, box, ect…) favors Tatum and he might have had the worst half of basketball in his career. People have to be reminded every year that its a all star game, not a “my team has the best record and I have good advanced stats game.” Fans want to see star players, spmone averaging a assist a game more only matters when youre trying to make a srguement for your own teams players….

You're missing the point. All of those advanced stats that Tatum is better in (+0.4 PER, +0.5 BPM, +0.6 VORP, +0.5 on/off, etc.) are miniscule. Are you telling me the difference between Tatum being ranked 6th by players + 4th by media and Siakam being ranked 10th by players + not ranked by media is because Tatum scores 5 more points on 4 more shots? No, it's because the media has pushed this narrative down everyone's throat that Tatum is a top 10 player in the league while Siakam is an overpaid player who can't perform when it matters because he had one awful playoff series in the bubble.

I'm sure if Siakam was averaging 21 FGA/game, he could probably score 26 points too. He has only attempted 21+ shots 5 games all year though while Tatum has attempted 21+ shots in more than half of his games. Siakam has more 5+ assist games despite playing 13 less games than Tatum too. That difference in playmaking isn't insignificant lol.

[flow]

I'm surprised people picked Garland over Ball.

its probably there are no standouts from Cleveland but they are like top 3 in the East right now and he's putting up the same counting stats as FVV.

Garland has been a standout.

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[W_HAMILTON]

Spoiler:

The Hawks once had 4 All-Stars as the team with the #1 record in the East In 2015 with Horford, Millsap, Teague and Korver. It’s hard to believe the Heat may only get one All-Star, if even that. I think Butler and Herro should get in at the minimum. Bam and Lowry should be in consideration as well but probably won’t be. The Heat have one of the best records against the leagues top teams too so they are a strong #1 seed.

The All-Star guards are loaded though, especially with DeRozan taking away a spot (instead of as a forward). Maybe more spots will open up if players miss the game.

The Heat have five teams that are within three games of them. They aren't a strong #1 seed.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Spoiler:

The Hawks once had 4 All-Stars as the team with the #1 record in the East In 2015 with Horford, Millsap, Teague and Korver. It’s hard to believe the Heat may only get one All-Star, if even that. I think Butler and Herro should get in at the minimum. Bam and Lowry should be in consideration as well but probably won’t be. The Heat have one of the best records against the leagues top teams too so they are a strong #1 seed.

The All-Star guards are loaded though, especially with DeRozan taking away a spot (instead of as a forward). Maybe more spots will open up if players miss the game.

The Heat have five teams that are within three games of them. They aren't a strong #1 seed.

Considering they came from behind to overtake everyone for the #1 seed, they are pretty strong.


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[W_HAMILTON]

Spoiler:

Considering they came from behind to overtake everyone for the #1 seed, they are pretty strong.

That doesn't mean much and it's certainly not a good reason why they should receive multiple All-Star selections.

All it would take is about one week's worth of games for them to go from #1 seed to being almost at play-in seed level.

They aren't dominant enough to earn multiple All-Star selections on record alone; they deserve no more consideration for that than any of the other teams at the top of the East that are bunched up at the top right along with them.

Hell, the teams are so close at this point, by the time you give them an extra All-Star just for being at the top right now, they could be 4th or 5th by the time the All-Star Game actually rolls around. So, yeah, no to that idea.

[yoyoboy]

The Cavs are only 2 games behind the Heat and are actually over a full point ahead of Miami in SRS. If the Heat were completely dominating everyone compared to the rest of the East, I would understand the idea they deserve more than one All-Star, but that’s just not the case. Them being #1 in the East alone doesn’t entitle them to it.

[jbk1234]

Spoiler:

Considering they came from behind to overtake everyone for the #1 seed, they are pretty strong.

That doesn't mean much and it's certainly not a good reason why they should receive multiple All-Star selections.

All it would take is about one week's worth of games for them to go from #1 seed to being almost at play-in seed level.

They aren't dominant enough to earn multiple All-Star selections on record alone; they deserve no more consideration for that than any of the other teams at the top of the East that are bunched up at the top right along with them.

Hell, the teams are so close at this point, by the time you give them an extra All-Star just for being at the top right now, they could be 4th or 5th by the time the All-Star Game actually rolls around. So, yeah, no to that idea.

By this logic, none of the Eastern Conference teams deserve to have their players in. All of top 6 teams could drop down to play-in status after a tough week.

[Eagle4]

The Cavs are only 2 games behind the Heat and are actually over a full point ahead of Miami in SRS. If the Heat were completely dominating everyone compared to the rest of the East, I would understand the idea they deserve more than one All-Star, but that’s just not the case. Them being #1 in the East alone doesn’t entitle them to it.

Being one of the most injured teams in the nba/ different lineups every night and key cogs constantly out and still obtaining the 1st seed is pretty dominant. It's ok to concede Heat's success this year.

[W_HAMILTON]

Spoiler:

By this logic, none of the Eastern Conference teams deserve to have their players in. All of top 6 teams could drop down to play-in status after a tough week.

No, the logic would then be that it should be based on the quality of the player and the type of performance they have had this season as opposed to getting in due to team performance, since team performance is pretty damn similar among most of the top teams in the East.

[jbk1234]

Spoiler:

By this logic, none of the Eastern Conference teams deserve to have their players in. All of top 6 teams could drop down to play-in status after a tough week.

No, the logic would then be that it should be based on the quality of the player and the type of performance they have had this season as opposed to getting in due to team performance, since team performance is pretty damn similar among most of the top teams in the East.

If the game wasn't in Cleveland this year, I really wouldn't care. I think the selection process has become absurd, the game itself is borderline unwatchable, and fans ascribe an importance to it that's completely unwarranted. But the game is in Cleveland, and if the Cavs get zero guys on while finishing top 3 in the East, I'll think the entire thing is more farcical than I already do.

[yoyoboy]

The Cavs are only 2 games behind the Heat and are actually over a full point ahead of Miami in SRS. If the Heat were completely dominating everyone compared to the rest of the East, I would understand the idea they deserve more than one All-Star, but that’s just not the case. Them being #1 in the East alone doesn’t entitle them to it.

Being one of the most injured teams in the nba/ different lineups every night and key cogs constantly out and still obtaining the 1st seed is pretty dominant. It's ok to concede Heat's success this year.

Who on the Heat besides Butler has played at an All-Star level? The answer is nobody. Sure, the Heat have had a lot of injuries but so have a lot of teams. Our top 8 rotation guys have combined for 121 missed games total so far and we still have the best SRS in the conference. You can argue all you want that Miami is one of the more injured teams in the league, but part of Miami’s success is their depth which is better than almost any team and has allowed them to do well even when down guys. On an individual level, Herro has not played better than guys like FVV, Garland, LaVine, Ball, and Holiday, and a couple of those guards aren’t going to make it either.

[DroseReturnChi]

I'm surprised people picked Garland over Ball.

bc its held in cleveland and you dont send 0 all stars for a top seeded team.

[JustLucky]

Even though i believe he falls a bit short this year, LaMelo Ball seems like the perfect type player who'll make the ASG super entertaining.

8 spots left in the East, he's in, imo. Only way he misses it is if the 15 East coaches handout lifetime achievements to multiple guys, Beal and Sabonias, I'm looking at you.

what do you mean theres only 4 guard spots. lavine harden garland fvv are locks over him. He might get it over fvv because of records but that would be bull

[KembaWalker]

Even though i believe he falls a bit short this year, LaMelo Ball seems like the perfect type player who'll make the ASG super entertaining.

8 spots left in the East, he's in, imo. Only way he misses it is if the 15 East coaches handout lifetime achievements to multiple guys, Beal and Sabonias, I'm looking at you.

what do you mean theres only 4 guard spots. lavine harden garland fvv are locks over him. He might get it over fvv because of records but that would be bull

LaMelo>FVV. I'm pretty sure if I went down the board Raptors fans would think they are better at every single position, coaching staff, and front office than the Hornets and yet we are playing so much better than them. I wonder how that is possible

[Madhouse]

8 spots left in the East, he's in, imo. Only way he misses it is if the 15 East coaches handout lifetime achievements to multiple guys, Beal and Sabonias, I'm looking at you.

what do you mean theres only 4 guard spots. lavine harden garland fvv are locks over him. He might get it over fvv because of records but that would be bull

LaMelo>FVV. I'm pretty sure if I went down the board Raptors fans would think they are better at every single position, coaching staff, and front office than the Hornets and yet we are playing so much better than them. I wonder how that is possible

Raptors are 13th in SRS, Hornets 17th although in the last 10-15 games the Hornets have been better. I would not have a problem with Lamelo over Fred even though Fred's advanced numbers are elite.

[dk1115]

I'm surprised people picked Garland over Ball.

bc its held in cleveland and you dont send 0 all stars for a top seeded team.

I see. Usually I don't even watch the all-star game, but it's nice to see players get credit for the great years they're having.