[WOJ] Cleveland is acquiring Caris Levert in a trade for Ricky Rubio, '22 1st and 2 2nds

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Re: [WOJ] Cleveland is acquiring Caris Levert in a trade for Ricky Rubio, '22 1st and 2 2nds 

Post#81 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:09 pm

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JJ_PR wrote:I love this trade. LeVert scored 42 points against the Bulls the other night. He's a real difference maker when healthy.

And the week earlier he put up 10 points on 19 FGAs and 6 FTAs. His career eFG% is 3% lower than the league average for his career, while his career TS% is 4% below the league average. Again his career best year when it comes to efficiency was his rookie year when he was just equal to league average and that is when he averaged just 8ppg. Since then he has been an efficient scorer.


I think he'll be more efficient when not having to be a primary option, which is the case with the Cavs. He's had to deal with several injuries, but is finally coming into his own. This year has been his breakout season, & we got him for a fair deal. I can't complain tbh.

He's not the primary guy in Indy though. Brogdon when healthy and Sabonis are the primary guys on that offense. I also dont see this being a breakout year for him. Last year was better and the year before that was just as good as this one.

I dont know, I just feel like a 1st and an early early 2nd is a hefty price for him. If I was the Cavs, I would've saved up all my assets to get a legit starter/borderline all star. I just feel like everything thinks of LeVert as this young guy showing potential when he is healthy, not realizing he is already 27 years old and has yet to put together a good season of NBA ball.
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Post#82 » by Bankai » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:09 pm

At first I was like wait, Rubio and LeVert is already a good swap, why add? But then I realized that Rubio is injured and done for the season, so the Cavaliers have no use for him, they could use LeVert. So the trade itself isint bad. Its a little morally sad when Teams throw away injured players, but the Cavs are making a push, they had to do it.
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Post#83 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:10 pm

Cavs are looking gooooooooooooooooood...

Garland
LeVert
Markkanen
Mobley
Allen

But there's one glaring hole with that lineup.... outside shooting. LeVert is alright but IMO the Cavs need a real knockdown shooter (a guy like Hield, Trent, etc.)

I don't think the Cavs are done yet.
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Post#84 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:10 pm

Gilbert loves to make these types of moves the moment he sniffs the playoffs. Jiri Welsch, Mozgov, LeVert.
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Post#85 » by Hugi Mancura » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:10 pm

LeVert has never been effective scorer, but with Cavs defense you don't need to. Personally don't think he is good enough player to be a starter in this league in a great team. He can create his own shots, which is good and what Cavs need right now. He can help this year, even though don't see them reaching further than second round.

Bigger question is what Cavs are going to do in the summer. Hard to see Sexton and LeVert to play in same team. One of them won't be a starter, so will Cavs sign&trade Sexton? Or will one of them come from bench, which I think neither of them would like to do. I do think in long run Sexton will be better offensive player (he pretty much all ready is), but LeVert have been better defender.
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Post#86 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:11 pm

Dying to see where Sabonis and Turner end up now...
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Post#87 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:12 pm

Prez wrote:I get it from a talent perspective but LeVert isn't as good as people think and I don't think he's a good fit for the Cavs. I would've rather they held on to those picks and aimed higher maybe in the offseason


I agree. LeVert makes the team look a bit prettier on paper but that starting rotation is gonna struggle mightily from behind the arc.

A guy like Hield (though not a fan of his contract) would've been a better fit on this Cavs squad.
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Post#88 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:12 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Cavs are looking gooooooooooooooooood...

Garland
LeVert
Markkanen
Mobley
Allen

But there's one glaring hole with that lineup.... outside shooting. LeVert is alright but IMO the Cavs need a real knockdown shooter (a guy like Hield, Trent, etc.)

I don't think the Cavs are done yet.


Hield is 29, shooting 42% from 2 and 37% from 3, can't play defense or do anything beyond shoot the 3, and makes $20M/year. Why are so many people fascinated by him? He'll be making the minimum once his contract's up.
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Post#89 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:13 pm

Garland
LeVert
Okoro
Mobley
Allen

Not bad, Cleveland
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Post#90 » by jpengland » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:13 pm

I like it for both.


Pacers get assets to retool/rebuild.

Cavs get a scorer who can create his own shot. Efficiency concerns but I think that's more to do with role than being an absolute problem.


It's a relatively low risk gamble from the Cavs which takes them a step closer to being a dangerous team
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Post#91 » by LivingLegend » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:15 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Cavs are looking gooooooooooooooooood...

Garland
LeVert
Markkanen
Mobley
Allen

But there's one glaring hole with that lineup.... outside shooting. LeVert is alright but IMO the Cavs need a real knockdown shooter (a guy like Hield, Trent, etc.)

I don't think the Cavs are done yet.


they are 1 eric gordon buyout away....
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Post#92 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:15 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Cavs are looking gooooooooooooooooood...

Garland
LeVert
Markkanen
Mobley
Allen

But there's one glaring hole with that lineup.... outside shooting. LeVert is alright but IMO the Cavs need a real knockdown shooter (a guy like Hield, Trent, etc.)

I don't think the Cavs are done yet.


Hield is 29, shooting 42% from 2 and 37% from 3, can't play defense or do anything beyond shoot the 3, and makes $20M/year. Why are so many people fascinated by him? He'll be making the minimum once his contract's up.


I never said the Cavs should get Hield. I personally think his contract is atrocious. What I'm suggesting is that they need a knockdown shooter LIKE Hield and Trent.
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Post#93 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:16 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Cavs are looking gooooooooooooooooood...

Garland
LeVert
Markkanen
Mobley
Allen

But there's one glaring hole with that lineup.... outside shooting. LeVert is alright but IMO the Cavs need a real knockdown shooter (a guy like Hield, Trent, etc.)

I don't think the Cavs are done yet.


they are 1 eric gordon buyout away....


Eric Gordon would be a great fit. A much better option than Hield. Trent would be a perfect fit on this Cavs team but (un)fortunately he isn't attainable for the Cavs.
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Post#94 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:17 pm

I mean Rubio's out of the season and the Pacers are basically beginning a firesale. Makes sense for the most part.
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Post#95 » by djsunyc » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:18 pm

LivingLegend wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Cavs are looking gooooooooooooooooood...

Garland
LeVert
Markkanen
Mobley
Allen

But there's one glaring hole with that lineup.... outside shooting. LeVert is alright but IMO the Cavs need a real knockdown shooter (a guy like Hield, Trent, etc.)

I don't think the Cavs are done yet.


they are 1 eric gordon buyout away....


so if you're eric gordon and get bought out, where would you want to go? do you want to go somewhere where you'll get a ton of PT but maybe not a strong a chance to win a chip or do you go to a top 3 team and really have a legit shot at a chip while you may not get as much PT?

he'll get a ton of mins with the cavs but not sure if chip is in the cards for him this season.

but with all that said, not sure if he's a buyout guy b/c he money owed to him next season.
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Post#96 » by DroseReturnChi » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:19 pm

the idea behind this move is cle is hungry for a legit title run. they want to make a splash at least atlanta did.
i think they will make 2nd round at least right behind the elite bucks/miami.
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Post#97 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:21 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Garland
LeVert
Okoro
Mobley
Allen

Not bad, Cleveland


That is a horrible shooting team.

Garland: 37% from 3
LeVert: 32% from 3
Okoro: 30% from 3
Mobley: 28% from 3
Allen: 11% from 3

LeVert is a complete none factor off the ball and his defense is really bad. This only makes sense if he is going to be their 6th man.
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Post#98 » by djsunyc » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:21 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:the idea behind this move is cle is hungry for a legit title run. they want to make a splash at least atlanta did.
i think they will make 2nd round at least top 3 team.


if garland is healthy, cavs will be a tough out just b/c their height at the 3/4/5 and defense will frustrate many teams. they need to make the games ugly so they don't have to put up 110+ pts to win games.
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Post#99 » by DavidSterned » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:22 pm

Just makes the Norm Powell/Robert Covington trade look worse for the Blazers.... LeVert's value should be a fair amount lower and they still get a 1st round pick.
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Post#100 » by djsunyc » Sun Feb 6, 2022 10:23 pm

DavidSterned wrote:Just makes the Norm Powell/Robert Covington trade look worse for the Blazers.... LeVert's value should be a fair amount lower and they still get a 1st round pick.


the portland deal is definitely bad but norm also has 3 more years on his deal so financially, clippers took on way more salary.

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